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Worst Muppet Movie?

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by MuppetFan12, Oct 28, 2012.

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  1. MuppetFan12

    MuppetFan12 New Member

    Out of all Muppet Movies (TV Movies or the ones shown in theaters or Direct to DVD) Which in your opinion The worst muppet movie? In my opinion the worst muppet movie i saw was Kermit's Swamp Years
  2. MissMusical12

    MissMusical12 Well-Known Member

    I don't really think any Muppet movie is considered "worst" or "terrible," however, my least favorite Muppet movie is probably either "Kermit's Swamp Years" or "Muppets Wizard of Oz."
  3. Princeton

    Princeton Active Member

    The Muppets.
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  4. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Have to go with either Muppets From Space or Muppet Wizard of Oz.
  5. muppetlover123

    muppetlover123 Well-Known Member

    Muppet christmas carol
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  6. MissMusical12

    MissMusical12 Well-Known Member

    I'm quite surprised you disliked "The Muppets." :eek: One only wonders why.....
  7. Princeton

    Princeton Active Member

    It just didn't do anything for me as a movie-goer or a Muppet fan. This was going to be the first theatrical Muppet movie in twelve years and nobody could have had higher expectations for the film than I did. I knew the basic plot and that there would be a brand new Muppet introduced, but other than that I approached seeing it with an open mind. What I saw was nowhere near what I expected.

    The way I understood it, Walter was going to be a supporting character. Normally I would have had no problem with him being the focus- except he was completely unlikable! I was an outsider when I was young and yet I never played the victim and my family was much more supportive. Also, I hated how Fozzie and Rowlf (my two favorite Muppets) were used. There was so much hype about Rowlf returning- and as a major character! Yet he was not included in the pick-up montage and the most dialogue he had was reinforcing that joke. If this is the extent that he was going to be used in the film, then I have zero hope of Rowlf ever being included substantially in any future Muppet projects. I'm disgusted with the fact that The Swedish Chef has had lines in every Muppet film since Jim's passing and we've been deprived of Rowlf for over twenty years.

    As for Fozzie, the closest I came to crying during the new film was the hammock scene- only to have it taken away by the 'fart shoes'. And this film firmly established Statler and Waldorf as villains. By making them executors of the theater's contract, no wonder the contract contained loopholes; S&W have been plotting against the Muppets since 1976. And this goes for the plot of IAMMCM, as well. Finally, the ending was a downer- the Muppets don't make enough money and Richman wins the day. Then when the Mahna Mahna... whatever that was happened, I got ready to leave but my dad begged me to finish the movie. Well, thank God I did because they don't reveal Richman's 'change of heart' (convenient, wasn't it?) during the end credits. So, I'm glad I saw it but for all the hype around it and all my high hopes for not only the film but the future of the Muppets, it didn't deliver and disapointed me hugely.
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  8. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    I can't blame you there. I started muttering "not funny, not funny!" in the theater, lol.

    That didn't bother me. You don't have to win the money to have a happy ending. At least that's not what I want kids to learn, lol.

    I'll be honest, I probably won't be watching The Muppets too much again unless a friend wants to. Overall I was just very relieved it didn't have the mean spirited nonsense of some of the previous projects. So for me it was a compromise. :)
  9. Hayley B

    Hayley B Active Member

    For me: Treasure Island and Wizard of OZ.
  10. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    I for one thought Muppets from Space was better than The Muppets

    *hides behind flame shield*

    But as far as the worst, Treasure Island is the only muppet movie that I just can't bring myself to watch from start to finish.
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  11. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    As well you should. :shifty: ;)
  12. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    It's a Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie is another BUT.
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  13. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    For me, it's probably a toss between MWoO and KSY.
  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Exactly. Sorry Princeton, but even if I hated the film, it still would pale in comparison to how freaking terrible Muppet Oz was. At worst, The Muppets was an ascended fan fic. A well meaning fan fic, at that. To blame the lack of Rowlf in it makes no sense, as they're easing the character back in and he historically has had small roles in the films even the first 3. His biggest moment in film was the duet with Kermit in the first one. He didn't even have more than a couple lines of song and the "I speak dog" bit in GMC, and he may have had a small side bit in MTM at the kennel, he didn't have a major role in that film either. And you got to admit, a couple lines is better than "AWWWW." I just don't get the "X didn't have enough screentime" complaint when this film gave characters that never had screentime their first major film roles.

    No... Oz is a spectacular failure across the board. Ugly film angles, terrible songs, one pretty good but VERY disturbing song, terribly awkward chemistry with a human star that couldn't act, and just over all dark, disturbing and nasty. Even darker, nastier and more disturbing than Kermit's alternate timeline in VMX, and at least THAT has being a negative universe where horrible things happen to blame. Not to mention the garbage cameos. Kelly Osborne?!?! What the WHAT!?! And if you think Statler and Waldorf were bad in TM, they were downright hateful as the Kalidahs in Moz. To be fair, yet another damaging edit to TM was that Statler and Waldorf were going to donate the last dollar, but I guess they thought Uncle Deadly's change of heart was all the change of heart they needed in the film.

    Oz's good point? Scooter was in it and the Electric Mayhem did perform a number that had one word in it. Still, what the heck was the excuse for having the thing shot to look like the Adam West Batman show?
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  15. Hayley B

    Hayley B Active Member

    I remember Kelly was promoting this back then too. She was only there for like a minute.
  16. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    As I've said many times before, that's exactly was IAVMMCM was... except instead of being a well-meaning fanfic, it was a fanfic written by some emo guy who had just recently crawled out his recent depressive funk, and decided he wanted to try to write a mashup of It's a Wonderful Life and the Muppets, and came out with IAVMMCM, then gave it to NBC so they could turn it into a movie.
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Partially right. It's a mashup of ALL the Christmas specials and references and cliches they could get away with at one time. The film came out when people were actually watching and liking the Scary Movie series, so you can tell where the humor comes from. It's hit or miss, some stuff actually worked quite well, other stuff just felt like reference overload. It doesn't age well, but it has some solid moments in between the noisy bits.

    MWOZ was trying to do VMX, but failing even worse. Like the later Scary Movie/Parody movie films.
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  18. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    I don't really see any project as the "worst"; there are some I consider boring and don't intend to watch as much, but that's mostly specials. Of the original three, MTM is my least favorite because it's not as funny as the previous two (GMC especially, which is my favorite, despite its flaws [I don't like "Couldn't We Ride" and "Piggy's Fantasy, the latter totally unnecessary])
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  19. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    Kermit's Swamp Years is the one that gives me pain. I cringed all through it. I didn't enjoy Muppet Treasure Island either, but it doesn't have the deep hurting factor that KSY did, and there were some fun moments.

    What an appropriate sig I have. At least the discussion is fitting for this thread.
  20. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member


    About that sig.

    To be fair, MFS could have been a good movie had we a decent director that understood what the Muppets were about and left Joey's pass of the script alone. VMX (I really like, VMX BTW) isn't bad considering the style of humor didn't age too well, and it really calls itself a movie when it means feature length TV special. Take out the nonstop pop culture references, and it had some strong moments. Especially the alternate reality sequence between Kermit and Piggy. That's almost heartbreaking. There's NOTHING that could have saved MWOZ. It was a dumb idea for a movie anyway, especially since there were much stronger scripts floating around.

    And I can't speak for KSY, since I'm still the only one here that didn't see it.
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