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You Ever Notice...and What's the Deal...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Mo Frackle, Aug 29, 2012.

  1. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    Sure they did! There were TONS AND TONS of alternate controllers available for consoles produced by third parties. And I'm talking going as far back as the atari. As far as first party controllers, I...actually dont remember this myself,, but I'm sure they did.

    You kinda explained the logic yourself there. it was staged. It's kinda the same thinking as why a character in a show would do something illogical when the writers wrote it that way for plot convenience.
     
  2. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    In the Family Guy episode "It's a Trap", when Carter is insulting Seth Green to make Chris angry, he asks if Seth Green was in anything successful. Chris mentions Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which Carter shoots down by saying that, despite what Entertainment Weekly said, it was not a success, but then Chris said that he was in the Austin Powers movies, citing that they grossed millions of dollars, and Carter then remarked, "Because of Seth Green??? Peopel actually said, 'Let's go see the new Austin Powers movie, Seth Green's in it'?"

    But then couldn't he have just said that about Buffy? He had to remark that it was successful but when Austin Powers was brought up, he had to say that they didn't see it because of Seth Green? I doubt people saw Buffy the Vampire Slayer because of Seth Green.

    Also, Carter didn't ask if anybody saw a movie because of Seth Green, he asked if he was in anything successful. That's two different things.
     
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Okay, so, like, why are grocery stores suddenly dropping certain items from their inventory? I have to say, it's actually a bit of a hassle to go all the way to Walmart just to get a certain flavor of cereal, chips, Hot Pockets, or what have you simply because the grocery store, for whatever reason, won't carry them anymore.
     
  4. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

  5. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    How and why do certain YouTubers have their own pages on IMDb? I mean, it's been a long time since I had an IMDb account (kept getting hacked, and the last time it happened, IMDb wouldn't let me register another new account unless I paid for it, because it was their new security measure to keep trolls out), but IIRC, they had pretty strict guidelines for trying to start a new page for a show, movie, special, etc. I'm trying to wrap my mind around what kind of credentials YouTubers would have for getting pages for themselves and their videos since IMDb evidently allows this.
     
  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    The problem was the unknown. In hindsight, yeah...Steve came back as Kermit and this was either a case of Steve not wanting to fly all over the place for a TV appearance like that, or Disney trying something as sinister as getting a cheaper actor to replace him and seeing if anyone would notice.

    But when all is said and done, I'm very disappointed that the fandom went after Artie. He was one of us, an MC member. Unlike most of us, he actually got to become a major puppeteer. While I can't support the not probably true thing about Disney trying to blackmail Steve to a cheaper pay grade, I find it appalling that we'd spit all over one of our own's dreams. Luckily, most rational tones taken with this put the blame on Disney instead of Artie.

    I'm so glad that we've turned a corner with Erine being recast by Billy. More of us were open to that because A) it didn't come out of the blue in a substandard Muppet appearance on a weak reality show and B) we just wanted to see more Ernie when Steve became too unavailable for that one character.
     
  7. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    That's basically how I feel. While it was a little scary that we didn't know why it happened, I still feel terrible for Artie. Everybody on this forum wants to work with the Muppets in some way or at least get to visit the set of a Muppet project. We expect our fellow Muppet fans to be happy for us when we get there. And Artie got the mother of all amazing Muppet jobs, playing freaking Kermit! We should've been patting him on the back like we were his parents saying, "Well, I don't exactly approve of what you did to get there, but i'm happy it all worked out and you were successful." Instead what we got was fans personally attacking their own just because Kermit's voice was a little off.

    Sure, we as fans had the right to be angry and upset about the random unexplained recast, but most fans on this forum blew it waaaayy out of proportion. Going back and watching his performance as Kermit, it really wasn't bad. It was a little stiff compared to Steve's puppeteering, but that's to be expected, Artie was new at the role! People need to stop expecting every recast to be Matt Vogel right away, if you know what I mean.
     
  8. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    Honestly Artie is a great puppeteer like when he did Homer for that Simpsons X-Mas special, though I think we were jerks to him and honestly if something happens to Steve we should get Artie, since he is a darn good replacement.
     
  9. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    One thing that struck me odd was that a year earlier, Steve Whitmire did an interview for Tough Pigs and said talked about how Disney considered alternate performers in 2005 and then quickly changed their minds, and yet they kind of changed their minds again in 2009. I've read that Steve was going to do the performance, but then Disney decided they wanted to test out having another Kermit performer.

    It seems like we didn;t get like this when we first heard Matt Vogel as Big Bird for the first time (maybe we didn't immediately notice, or maybe it's because Spinney performed Big Bird in the next episode... And Vogel's earliest-known performance by Muppet Wiki had Spinney and Vogel alternating on Big Bird) or when John Tartaglia first performed Ernie on Play With me Sesame (though with that I think we got reassurance from somebody that it was only for that show). Those are instances where we weren't exactly expecting a performance change. When Billy Barkhurst replaced Steve as Ernie, it wasn't really a shock because we knew that Ernie hadn't done much in years. When Frank Oz's characters got recast it wasn't as much a shock because we knew he had a busy directing career.
     
  10. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    In Beauty and the Beast, The Beast makes Maurice a prisoner just because he "trespassed" into his castle. Then Belle showed up in search of him, yet the Beast didn't consider locking her up for trespassing. She only becomes his prisoner when she offers to be one in place of her father. But why did she have to do that? The Beast could have just locked them up together.
     
  11. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Something like gender inequality. Remember from the history books: Susan B. Anthony once broke the law because she tried to vote (which, back then, was against the law for women to vote), and although she was arrested and found guilty, the authorities decided not to do anything to punish her, such as send her to jail, all because she was a woman - even though she demanded to be sent to jail and receive the same kind of consequences as men who violate the law.

    Even once on THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW, there was an episode where Aunt Bee and other older ladies in Mayberry organize a protest, to which Barney asks Andy how they're going to handle the situation, saying something to the effect of, "Men, you can lock up. But what do you do with women?"
     
  12. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    With the Ghostbuster remake being out today, I must ask something I have had on my mind for about a month. Ghostbusters II begins with a "five years later..." text. Why open that way? It'd make sense if it was a scene at the end of the movie, or if it was a "five years ago..." flashback, but at the beginning of the sequel?

    But in this day and age, when it's common for stations to have split-screens when programming switches, to where one screen shows end credits while the other screen starts the next program, it is good if the two movies are shown back-to-back this way.
     
  13. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Did you ever notice that all of the major night show hosts are named "James" except for Stephen Colbert? James Corden, Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon.
     
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  14. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Is Drumph unaware that Reddit is essentially a paradise haven for trolls and other freaks-n-geeks on the internet? I mean, why else would he participate in a discussion over there?

    Uh, on second thought, never mind, I think I just answered my own question.
     
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  15. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I thought the Harry Potter series had ended some time ago, and that J.K. Rowling was working on a new series that was still fantasy, but differed from Harry Potter, and aimed at younger readers . . . but while I was at both BAM and Barnes & Noble over the weekend, both places had customers and employees all dressed up in Harry Potter cosplay, anticipating the release on the newest book in the series.
     
  16. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Well it's not exactly part of the series as it is a follow up to the series. It's kind of a standalone story. Same characters, but this book doesn't actually expand much on the plots of the original books and there will be no stories after it. So it's basically a pointless epilogue to the series.
     
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I really really shouldn't say anything because it's going to damage the heck out of that joke, and I hate being that guy...

    but...

    Drumph's entire campaign, heck, his entire political involvement since 2008 is basically a manifestation of internet troll commentators, and horrid image macros made by far righters. Nothing he's said is original. It's just the same worst of the worst racist uncle that nobody likes type Facebook posts that everyone was aware of.
     
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  18. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I know I've ranted about Twitter before, but you know what other site out there that I just don't understand the popularity or appeal of? Instagram. I mean, what's the deal with Instagram? The quality of the images is always terrible: blurry, pixelated, poor contrast . . . they look as if they went through a really poor filtering process when they were being uploaded; I remember when Photobucket (which has seriously gone downhill in recent years) went through a period of time where they were compressing everybody's uploads to conserve bandwidth (which, thankfully, didn't last long, but the damage they've caused to older uploads is irreversible), but even that wasn't as bad as what Instagrams look like. So, again, what's the appeal? Why is it so popular?
     
  19. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I want to ask the same thing about Snap Chat. From what I understand, people just post photos, and the photos get automatically deleted. Why post photos if they won't be seen for very long? The only logic I can think of would be so people can post photos that could make them look bad later but they'd only be online for a short enough time that the chance of consequences would be slim. Maybe even as a test run before posting the photos elsewhere (they can see the comments, if they're online long enough for comments, and then determine if things would go out of hand).
     
  20. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Character actors have always been a part of the business, but have you ever noticed it seems like each decade had one particular character actor who really stood out somehow, and you saw them on almost every show that was on TV at the time?

    Take the 60s, for example: Bernard Fox was Malcolm Merriwether on THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW, Dr. Bombay on BEWITCHED, Colonel Crittendon on HOGAN'S HEROES, and I know he made appearances on other shows like I DREAM OF JEANNIE.

    Then you've got the 70s, and Pat Morita seemed to be everywhere: M*A*S*H, SANFORD AND SON, THE ODD COUPLE, HAPPY DAYS, etc.

    Fast-forward to the New Tens, and it seems like it's become a fall tradition to see how many new shows Rob Lowe will be on for the season.
     


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