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You Ever Notice...and What's the Deal...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Mo Frackle, Aug 29, 2012.

  1. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    We didn't have that problem when I was in Grade 8, however, we got in trouble for helping each other out, because our teacher took it as an indication that we were copying off of each other. I had that happen once when one of my classmates and I were trying to figure out certain problems on our lesson, and as I recalled, the teacher failed both of us because he thought we were copying off each other.
     
  2. fuzzygobo

    fuzzygobo Well-Known Member

    If I ever got a tattoo, I would be tempted to burn MATH IS TOUGH into my skin. Aced every other subject, bombed math.
    It's useful to have a basic understanding of adding, subtracting, multiplying, dividing, fractions, percentages, etc. But in 30+ years, having a wide range of jobs, my knowledge (or actually lack of knowledge) of algebra never came up.
    All the years playing in bands, the guitarist about to take a solo, never once did we have to stop the show so he can "solve for X".
     
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Math was always the one subject I pretty much failed at too. Well, I guess I can't really say "fail," exactly, but I barely passed by, because I knew if I ever got a D or U on my report card, I was in big trouble, so I'd have to push myself beyond my limitations to try to stay above D in math, which was almost impossible. Heck, I remember in Grade 8, I had to memorize the grading scale, because even though our teacher would routine share our current class GPAs with us, he would only do so by the number, and never the corresponding letter that went with it, so as I said, I ended up memorizing the grading scale, so that way I would know how well or poorly I was doing.

    I don't know if the grade scale has changed since I was in school (but apparently, our was different from my parents' generations), but I still remember it to this day:
    - 93-100 = A
    - 85-92 = B
    - 77-84 = C
    - 70-76 = D
    - 0-69 = U

    We didn't have Fs when I was in school. Then again, I remember in elementary school, we also had addition grades, such as E (exellent) and S (satisfactory).
     
  4. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    UGH, I hate how difficult math is. And the worst part is, most of the math you learn later on is completely useless. As Fuzzygobo said, I don't need to know what X equals if I wanna be a plumber, an actor, be in the music business or really any job I can think of. Nor should I ever need to use it in my day to day life. Heck, even accountants only use the basic math and occasionally a very basic level algebra. So there's really no reason for math to continually get harder and harder.
     
  5. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    You do kinda need certain types of math, even algebra. Algebra is something that pop up in taxes. Anything more advanced is for those who are planning to go into scientific careers. That said, you can say that about everything they teach you in school and the fact they teach to standardized tests just proves that public education keeps bumbling over the same exact format that never really worked.

    Heard some idiotic promo for some talk radio dips*** complaining about how one school in the area on a trial basis mind you, is getting rid of homework. Also mind you, ignoring the fact they're giving an extra hour of school as the trade off. No one in the history of ever liked homework. Homework is an excuse to pass off teaching responsibilities to the kids. How can the day be filled with pointless busy work if so much has to be supplemented at home? Though I want to make it appoint that actual studying and practice beyond the class room is important and I've no problem with reading assignments. That can be done without shoving a long worksheet into a kid's bag and telling them to fill the thing up.
     
  6. fuzzygobo

    fuzzygobo Well-Known Member

    I didn't know they changed the grade scale since MY day (back in those dank pre-Technicolor days). But the old standard might have given you a little more slack:

    A= 90-100
    B= 80-89
    C= 70-79
    D= 64-69
    F= below 64

    Getting my algebra tests back, I used to feel like Bart Simpson. Even with study aids, tutors, staying after for extra help (and I wasn't the only one), I'd still be getting F's.
    Even as my teacher, the ever-patient Mrs. Freund consoled me, "But at least it's a HIGH F"!
     
  7. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    We never copied in class, but even in places where we could work together, like study hall or after-school, there was a sense of doing your own stuff and letting everyone else stay out to dry. I think a lot of it was that my middle school had a particularly nasty group of teachers, that encouraged competition and did things like reading test grades out loud to the entire class when handing them back. Luckily by the time we got to high school the caliber of teacher improved greatly.

    I've had to use algebra concepts in my job, knowing how to set up equations and compare different price points. I buy stuff like nails and screws and have to figure out if it's worth it to buy 10 boxes at x or 20 boxes at y when we sell 5 a month, that sort of thing. So the concepts are important, but I don't think it gets taught that way, so it's easy for people (not trying to pick on you or anything) not to realize it's useful. If you're not shown how something has practical uses, you're not going to think it has practical uses.
     
  8. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    That's the problem right there. Education needs context. How come everything but school taught me that math was important in everyday career fields? The educational system turns things into mindless busy work that bores and annoys students into hating doing any work. And yes, it prepared them for a lifetime of mediocrity in the field of the business world of punch clock drudgery because it's either that or homelessness. But it doesn't get them invigorated.

    It's like... we have a certain group of people that were failed an education (or just didn't care or bothered to do the work) in history, and without context or depth. People with an F in third grade American history that base their own beliefs system on shallow points without any perspective. And we get "The Boston Tea party was because Taxes" instead of a more in-depth reason we didn't want to be a colony anymore.

    Most of the stuff we learn in school actually is important, it's just taught idiotically. In History, memorizing dates is more important than getting context. In Math it's more about doing number stuff than how it applies. And in reading, it's more important to remember inane details that may be symbolic of nothing than getting the big picture.
     
  9. fuzzygobo

    fuzzygobo Well-Known Member

    Someone young enough to know...do they still teach geography or is that too ancient?
    Sometimes grade school was boring (at best) to me, but I loved looking at maps, atlases, globes, exploring rivers and mountain ranges, depths of the ocean, city populations, I ate this stuff up.
    It did open up my mind to wondering what it's like living in foreign countries. Some kid my age living in Brussels, or Tokyo or Singapore- what is their day like?
    No teacher encouraged me to read maps, I was curious to find out on my own.
    So besides teaching geography, do teachers even encourage you to satisfy your own curiosity?
     
  10. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Well, by the time I graduated (nine years ago), yeah, they were still teaching geography. Of course, it seemed like as soon as I graduated, then they started making so many changes, so who knows? Like, for instance, when I was in school, a second language was a requirement only for high school, but after I graduated, they started including second languages in elementary school, which . . . ugh . . . would have been a lot more beneficial for me.
     
  11. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    I wonder if part of this has to do with the standardized test system and teachers feeling pressure to teach things that are going to show up on those tests, rather than step outside the boundaries a bit. Teachers might not get taught themselves how to put things into context. It's an incredibly complex issue and I can't imagine how long it will take to sort out.
     
  12. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    So in the I Love Lucy episode "Job Switching", the husbands start doing housework while the wives go out to get jobs. So in doing this, do Ricky and Fred still have their jobs?

    After all, Rickey ran a nightclub (and did he have his own television show?), was he going to give up running the place during the time that the husbands and wives switched roles?

    And Fred is the landlord of the building. Did Fred have any other jobs besides that (well, I've read that Fred and Ethel were former vaudeville performers, I actually don't remember that being mentioned anywhere on the show)? With Lucy and Ethel working in the chocolate factory, I wonder if Fred would have been able to keep up with landlord duties, or if there were a lot of duties for him as the landlord.

    I can't remember if the switching was done as a bet or not. If it was a bet, would Lucy and Ethel have continued their work at the chocolate factory if they had ended up being capable of the hard work?
     
  13. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    No, he made a number of guest appearances on local shows, and even shot his own pilot, but I don't recall him ever having his own show.
    Not that I recall, and in fact, he and Ethel both owned the building and both were landlords, but I supposed Fred handled the majority of the finances and transactions himself.
    Yes, it was.
    Had the show been set a decade or two later, when feminism was becoming more of a relevant social issue in America, maybe.
     
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  14. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    So, is Kevin Hart going through a serious ego trip or what? I mean he hasn't even been mainstream too many years, and already he's like the black NPH or Steve Carell - he's in practically every single new movie, not to mention he's already got a vanity movie coming out, which seems about as premature as Justin Bieber's autobiopic.
     
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  15. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    So in the Family Guy episode "Herpe the Love Sore", Brian tells Stewie that herpes will really only burn up during moments of intense stress. So having herpes isn't intensely stressful enough to burn up all the time?
     
  16. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Ever notice that women named Rach(a)el seem to almost always automatically be extremely, extremely attractive? I have to wonder if that has something to do with how in Genesis, the shepherdess Rachel was extremely beautiful and the favored wife of Jacob? Like one of those things like how men have one less rib than women since Eve was made from one of Adam's ribs.
     
  17. fuzzygobo

    fuzzygobo Well-Known Member

    Adam's Ribs! 8) Twenty pounds of ribs, and a pint of sauce.
    Don't forget the cole slaw.
     
  18. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Ever notice that a number of current pop songs do this thing where towards the end of the song, the refrain or background vocals will suddenly be muffled, then will slowly clear back up?
     
  19. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Ever notice that when you have two options for a product, they're traditionally color-coded by two colors: red and blue. Take playing cards for instance, what two colors do they usually come in? Red and blue. When Dorito's only came in two flavors - nacho and ranch - what color bags did the two flavors come in? Red and blue. When the first Pokemon Gameboy game was released, it came in two versions, and what were those two versions? Red and blue. How did these two colors come to be the common choice among products and items that came in twos?
     
  20. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    technically speaking the first two pokemon games were red and green, but it was changed to blue for international releases. Actually the original pokemon red and green games had different sprites too.

    But i digress. When you have team based video games its always the red and blue team and idk why that is either.

    I guess because they are two basic colors that contrast each other?
     


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