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Discussion in 'Feedback' started by Phillip, May 3, 2003.

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  1. Smy Guiley

    Smy Guiley Well-Known Member

    COOL! Actually, I just found "Christmas Eve On Sesame Street" today at a junk shop for 50 cents, but it's a bit scratchy. Oh well, like my daughter will care! I'm just glad to have found it...Anyway, I imagine there's probably no hope of a high-bandwidth station at least FM quality, is there? I'm guessing you'd have to re-convert every file and upload them again. Otherwise, it's nice to throw the station on and just let it go. I'm always surprised by several of the selections (pleasantly, that is!) I use iTunes to listen, and it's very smooth.

  2. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    Maybe in 2004. Stay tuned... :)
  3. jediX

    jediX Well-Known Member

    How are you mastering them?
  4. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    Can you elaborate on your question? It can mean several different things.

    Are you referring to the file format or software being used?

    Or do you mean the actual process of conventing an LP, cassette or video audio to a digital form that ends up being streamed?
  5. jediX

    jediX Well-Known Member

    What I mean is, how are you mastering the sound? Say you have a video...do you connect a vcr to your computer and then run the captured WAV through some sort of program? I'm using Cakewalk Home Studio 9 right now for recording and it works quite well, but I just can't get decent quality out of VHS or cassette audio. Hope this makes sense...
  6. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    Every source is handled differently depending on it's condition. For cassettes and VHS, hiss and misc background noise is always removed. The source is normalized. Then any kind of necessary tweaking takes place depending on how "rough" the source file is. If it's in mono, some stereo effects will be added. Most of this work is done in Cool Edit Pro. I archive the WAV's, then use 192 kbps MP3 to work with on a basic day-to-day basis.
  7. jediX

    jediX Well-Known Member

    How much is that program? Cakewalk HS9 has those features but they just don't cut it. Can it clean up video audio, too?
  8. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    Cool Edit was recently bought out by Adobe and has been renamed as Adobe Audition. For right now, the Adobe version is just a rebranded version of Cool Edit 2.0. You can probably still find trial versions of Cool Edit 2.0 to download on other sites.


    Keep in mind, for severe audio problems it takes time to clean them up. There are some really bad tracks that I have had to spend 30-60 minutes on for each of them in order to get the most out of it. It takes some time to really master all the features of the software but it's worth it. Removing a lot of clicks and pops from records is a whole other sciene in itself. It can be done, it just takes some time and experience.

    When you say Cakewalk HS9 has the features but doesn't cut it, what exactly are you trying to fix about the source material? Since it sounds like you are using a VHS tape as the source, likely you are having issues with tape hum/hiss. Is there a bit of silence (even a milisecond) somewhere in the source?

    When worse comes to worse, save this example of the noise you want to remove then carefully remove 95%-100% of it everywhere in the track. Again, I don't know what your source is, but this is typically the first area that needs tweaked from a video master. You just have to be careful not to remove any of the real audio content from the file.
  9. jediX

    jediX Well-Known Member

    (Yikes about the price...maybe I can get it cheaper through the school)

    CWHS9 has some of its own filters, but they can't handle very much static. I'm just trying to take the 'hiss' out of and up the treble on some vhs tapes -- the equalizer in cwhs9 works great for the equalization but doesn't cut it when it comes to static and noise removal. Anyway, I'll try and explain my setup.... My video card (a radeon all-in-wonder 9000) has an input block, so I connected a vcr through composite cables into that...so I basically that takes care of the line-in connection.. Then I just select that as my input source on cwhs9, hit record, and viola. Normalize the captured sample, clip it to what is needed, and run it through the light noise remover & equalizer. There's always my plan b, which involves recording the audio as dvd-quality mpeg which involves running it through the Radeon's (rather effective) sound clean-up.... Gaah...so much work ;)
  10. guysmiley4ever

    guysmiley4ever Well-Known Member

    Disco Frog!!

    Woo Hoo!! I was listening to Muppet Radio last night and heard the Disco frog song! :)
    That is awesome! I haven't heard that one in years!
    I just fainty remember a scene that went with it. Argh, I wish I can remember all of it. Don't know if I saw it on Sesame street or Muppet show.
    I remember Kermit singing and dancing, I think background singers too...and wasn't there a strange looking frog (disco frog) dancing around then it danced away.
    okay, can't clearly remember, but I love that one and really enjoyed hearing on the Muppet Radio. Play it more! :sing:
  11. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    Glad you enjoyed Disco Frog. Even though it was released on the 1979 Sesame Street Disco album, Kermit sang it as the opening number on the Christopher Reeve episode of The Muppet Show.
  12. jediX

    jediX Well-Known Member

    It's also in the "Rock Music With the Muppets" Playhouse VHS, I believe (havn't pulled that one out in a while). If not THAT particular one, I KNOW its on one of the Playhouse tapes.
  13. Whatever

    Whatever Well-Known Member

    Yay, I just heard "Honk around the clock!" Brings back memories... not sure of what. Thanks for the awesome radio, Phil!
  14. JBSegal

    JBSegal New Member

    Love. Lovelovelove. And yet I whine. :)

    I discovered MCR on Saturday, the 17th. Due to being laid up from a gout attack, I've had FAR too much time to listen. I think that I've listened to about 50 hours of material in that time.

    I'm loving this so very much...however I have a minor complaint that I need to voice.

    In the time I've been listening, there has of course been repetition. However, the rotation is starting to bother me. I've heard varios BITBBH tracks 3-4 times today alone (the past 4h40m), as well as various other repeting tracks, while I know that there are hundreds of tracks that haven't been up in that time.

    In my ideal world, there'd be no repeats until most of the playlist had played..yes, there are songs that I like more than others, but there's been nothing so far that's made me go "I must turn off the station"...though I have been tending to mute during the [n]th repetition of "Just Imagine" or "Oh Boy".

    BUT just to emphasize, I love the station. There's been so much fabulous material, so much of which I haven't heard in years, if at all. (I'd never heard of Ol' Brown Ears Is Back, for example...but I've only heard about half of it so far...)

    Thank you for this.
  15. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    So glad that you have been enjoying the music.

    At the absolute max, a Bear song could potentially play twice in one day. Now, what you described (a song repeating within a short amount of time) is kind of unusual, but it is possible. Let me explain.

    The Bear songs are picked at random. It sounds like when you heard song x it was near the end of the Bear playlist. Then the playlist completed and randomized itself again. It just happened that song x came up again fairly soon, rather than song a, b or c. (Keep in mind I'm talking only about Bear, different categories of songs all repeat at different intervals.) Some changes to the Bear rotation in particular will be made in the near future to greatly minimize this sort of thing from happening again.

    New music is added all the time. So please continue to listen frequently. Let me know if you have any other questions.
  16. Squigiman

    Squigiman Well-Known Member

    I have a question. I've been listening to MCR even more than usual, lately, and am enjoying many of the wonderful songs that it has to offer. I was wondering about some info for a few songs, though. One is a song by Clifford, singing about being on a roof, and another is a male voice singing about family, like "A father, a daughter, a mother, a son..." I was just wondering what these two songs were called and what productions they were from. Thanks, and take care.

  17. Boober_Gorg

    Boober_Gorg Well-Known Member

    You're probably thinking of a song from "The Muppet Musicians of Bremen."
  18. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    1. "Up on the Roof" is from the Dennis Quaid episode of Muppets Tonight. It sounds like someone else recorded the song previously. Don't know who. Maybe someone can confirm if this is the case.

    2. "A Family" is from The Muppet Musicians of Bremen. The animals are looking in and see shadows of what they think is a family when in reality it's really a group of robbers and thieves.
  19. Squigiman

    Squigiman Well-Known Member

    Thanks a lot, Phil. Take care.

  20. Squigiman

    Squigiman Well-Known Member

    Wow! No one's posted since me. Anyways, just wondering where Dr. Teeth's performance of Billy Joel's "New York State Of Mind" is from. I've been noticing a lot, in listening to how often some songs are used by the Muppets. On the whole, Rowlf the Dog seems to be the ultimate cover artist on his "Ol Brown Ears" album, with a few Robin, Gonzo, and Kermit songs amongst his repertoire. Still, upon searching Kermitage, it seems as though both appearances on the show were Floyd's. The guide here says it was played on the Tonight Show, but was that Teeth's, or Floyd's, once more? Thanks for the help.


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