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Your Thoughts: Lady Gaga and The Muppets Holiday Spectacular on ABC

Discussion in 'Muppet Appearances' started by Phillip, Nov 25, 2013.

  1. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    No, commercial breaks are five minutes long now; have been for a few years now.
  2. galagr

    galagr Well-Known Member

    As a MUPPET special, yes, this would be bad. Terrible, even. But as a LADY GAGA special FEATURING the Muppets, well, I thought it was pretty good!

    Keep in mind, my expectations going into this were pretty low but, still, I thought they did a great job.

    Yes, as a Muppet fan, I only watched the Muppet parts. And you know what? They were pretty well written. They, for the most part anyway, stayed in character the whole time (except for Piggy, not even gonna touch on that subject). Not just that, but they had quite a few laughs in there, too. Speaking as a fellow sax player, I found Zoot's line about using the same reed since '62 hilarious. I can't go a week without chipping or losing my reed.

    Speaking of Zoot, the Electric Mayhem got a bit more screen-time than I expected. And this is the REAL Electric Mayhem, not Animal with the other band members in the background. And Lips! LIPS IN A NATIONAL HOLIDAY SPECIAL.

    My only gripes about this special are very few and nitpicky.

    Kermit and Lady Gaga's talk before "Gypsy". *sigh* This was gut-wretchingly awkward. I think they were trying to make Lady Gaga and Kermit seem like old friends, but it really seems more like high school crushes talking to each other.

    Lips. Yes, I celebrated his appearance above, but this is just a minor nitpick. I see his mouth moving. But nothing is coming out. C'mon, Steve! Lips hasn't gotten a line in over three decades.

    Lastly, the "sneak peek" of the movie was just the trailer with one different clip. Meh, I'll live.

    Like I said above, this a special co-starring the Muppets. No fan is going to see this special and say "Uggh, I'm soooo not seeing the movie because of this". If anything, this holiday special is something to be celebrated.

    The Muppets are in a NATIONALLY BROADCAST SPECIAL WITH AN A-LIST CELEBRITY. Not to mention, Lady Gaga has a huge fanbase. The Muppets may have just gained a few fans. This will definitely help with spreading the word about Muppets Most Wanted.
  3. MuppetsRule

    MuppetsRule Well-Known Member

    Come on. She's a seasoned performer. It's not like they pulled somebody off the street to do this so-called holiday special.
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  4. kathy26

    kathy26 Well-Known Member

    I thought the special was cool I loved all the acts and also in the finale I saw the purple freckle if anybody notice
  5. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Huh... Maybe it's my visual impediment or maybe I'm more of an optimist Walter most of the times when it comes to Muppet productions/appearances, but I kind of liked this special.

    Sign me up for a passenger seat on the Lady Gaga bandwagon, I rully came to like her music.

    Because of the interaction between her and Kermit, Gypsy was the song I liked the most. Also, the conversation between them reminded me of the similar one that took place with the frog and John Denver that has all the funny puns about Kermit's life in the swamp.
    Venus was my #2 fave song, it helped set the tone for the rest of the special. Liked the duet with Gaga and Elton John, Gaga and the Jets.

    Other highlights for me included the two singing segments featuring the Leprechaun Brothers, laughed at the version of Jingle Bells. Was surprised to notice the wealth of Muppet characters included like Big Mean Carl, Sam, Lew, Zoot, and Bunsen and Beaker. That led to one of the funniest moments when the Muppets are brainstorming ideas for the finale, the bubble wrap dress coating Beaker... And then Animal just launches excitedly into popping the bubbles from the bubble wrap.

    As for the Christmas songs... Baby It's Cold Outside was well performed, finally got to hear it in its entirety. BTW: Anyone have a MUP3 of the version of that song sung by Miss Piggy and Vince Gil from the CMA's? I find that version superior to the original between Piggy and Rudolph Nuriyev only because I can understand the former more clearly.

    Santa Baby, that was the one moment that did in fact disappoint me. It was pretty much entonation for entonation the same track from the Green & Red Christmas album, the only difference being that Piggy had to browbeat the backup singers during the sequence. Also, the finale wasn't much of a finale when you consider it was a reprise of the song Applause with additional little Muppet outtakes sprinkled here and there.

    Oh, and before I forget... Aunt Ru, looks like you may have some competition for Gonzo's affections as he pretty much hooked up with Kristen Bell. Heh, spreading sugar on everything, falling into an inert coma, comatose. Good banter.

    So I guess in the end of schemes this reviewer gives the Lady Gaga and The Muppets special 3&½ :)'s out of 5.

    Good night. *Goes to find where the heck that pumpkin pie was stored in the fridge. :shifty:
  6. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I kind of think because of the show having Lady Gaga as the star people where bound to find problems with it. The Muppets did what they know how to do best, which is put on a show. They where funny, witty, charming, and the Muppets.
    I do think that if they gave the Muppets a little bit more control, and treat it more like a Muppet type show it would have flowed more. I think that is what they where trying to do, but it was clearly a Gaga show. If the Muppets had center stage it would have been more themed towards the holidays, with more Christmas music.

    That being said I do think that this is another step on the ladder for the Muppets to have there own weekly show.
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  7. antsamthompson9

    antsamthompson9 Well-Known Member

    Let me say this: The Muppets were what made this special great. In other words, I loved the parts with the Muppets. The non-Muppet parts, not so much.
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  8. LamangoNumber2

    LamangoNumber2 Well-Known Member

    Someone asked when did the Chef get married. He was married since Popcorn. And the new Bobo puppet is great. It's more mobile than the giant stiff one they used in From Space and Letters to Santa, an more expressive, though I still miss Sack Bobo.
  9. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    One thing for sure it looks like Lips is slowly making a come back, or something like that.
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  10. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    He's had that ring since as early as Studio DC.
  11. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    One other thing that I think should be noted. I saw somewhere on the forums recently that someone thought Disney was trying to market just kids. I don't think many kids would watch this show. This was more for a older crowd, which is something the Muppets have needed for a long time.
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  12. Ruahnna

    Ruahnna Well-Known Member

    The time the show aired was encouraging. I did notice that, because it presumed that ADULTS would be watching the show. (Or kids off from school....oh well.)

    Muppet fans--through thick and thin--we hang the course!
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  13. Ruahnna

    Ruahnna Well-Known Member

    When you get that one, will you send it to me?
  14. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    One step at a time, Disney is taking baby steps with the Muppets, when they should have there own show by now.
  15. ploobis

    ploobis Well-Known Member

    The Outtakes during the credits were great too!
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  16. lady piggy

    lady piggy Well-Known Member

    Well it's time for MC's own Little Monster to talk about this .( points to username ,enough said) i simply adored this special , two things i enjoy together for a night of fun . The beginning was a dream come true ,the Muppets were all silly and cool.Made me smile . It kinda reminded me of The Muppet show ,but a lot more crazy and extravagant. Yes i wished. the Muppets were more involved ,but i like to focus on the good things .instead of dwelling on what i didn't like . I loved this special especially when Kermit and Lady Gaga were singing gypsy together.A great way to end a great Thanksgiving <3
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  17. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    My thoughts:
    Part 1:
    - Loved Pepe's intro. Of course, Pepe would want this to be his special.
    - Gaga's first song.... well, at least it has Muppets in it! And I got a kick out of Walter's dance moves. I'm still not satisfied with the Gonzo puppet they've been using for last few years. It makes the little blue weirdo come off as stiff, and not nearly as expressive as the previous puppets.
    - Insert obligated (but always fun) Statler and Waldorf joke here:
    - Piggy's first scene could have been so much better. The jokes were too predictable (though I did like the "PhotoShop" line).
    - Wait, wait, wait, Lips?! And a Gonzo/Rizzo scene?! Great lines from the others ("I've been using the same reed since 1962", "Wait, that's not a holiday...") top this entire sequence off.

    Part 2:
    - Back to the good old days of having Scooter as Kermit's right-hand-man!
    - Carl! Longtime no see!
    - Bunny: I didn't agree to this...
    - Still not a fan of this Gonzo puppet. His mouth hardly even moves when he says "works every time".
    - Pepe. Gotta love him.
    - Can't remember the last time I saw a random Muppet animal do something that didn't involve standing in the background.
    - "Everyone loves puppets!"
    - Lady Gaga's second song - skipped (sorry, but I came to see the Muppets).
    - Inert S&W joke here:
    - Another classic Zoot line!

    Part 3:
    - Cover of "Benny Gaga and the Jets" by Sir (I keep forgetting he was knighted) Elton John and Gaga - skipped.
    - Gaga/John's second song - laughed at the Muppets' hearts 'stopping'
    - S&W line: heard it a dozen times. Come on writers, you can do better than that!
    - More Muppet interview bits (for a second, I could have sworn Animal was saying "drugs").

    Part 4:
    - The preview clip we've all seen... but extended!
    - Didn't they already use the puppet joke? I think once is enough.
    - Walter's stealing Gonzo's material!
    - "Too much jou, not enough her".
    - The "I got an idea. No wait, I don't" joke a bit too much here. It almost seems like this particular version was an excuse to give Dr. Teeth a line. Now that I think about it, anyone could have had this line.
    - Did we ever figure out who the Swedish Chef married?
    - Good ol' Lew!
    - Look's like Rowlf was making Bill's arm tired...
    - Classic Bunsen and Beaker scene. Poor Beaker!
    - Why do I get the feeling Gaga would actually wear that bubble dress?
    - Pepe, you dirty dirty prawn, you!
    - S&W elderly joke:
    - Another Gaga song. The emerald background brings back bad memories about a certain Muppet TV movie...
    - S&W joke: (loved the parking space line!)
    - Obligated Beaker/Chef/Animal carol.
    - Most inappropriate gifts - there seriously should have been more of these!

    Part 5:
    - Cute conversation between Gaga and Kermit. Gaga seems to be struggling for ad libs, but give the girl a break. She's obviously not an experienced actress.
    - Looks like Steve didn't have enough time practicing lip syncing to Gaga's song. But his epic singing voice overshadows that. Seriously, someone give Steve a record deal!
    - Even though I'm still not happy with the puppet, at least Gonzo gets more lines.

    Part 6:
    - Another non-Muppet song...
    - Bobo. Steals the show, as always!
    - Glad to see Kermit just being Kermit.

    Part 7:
    - Conversation between Kermit and Gaga. Somewhat reminiscent of the old talk spot skits used during the first season of TMS.
    - Again, Gaga seems to be struggling for ad libs (unless there was a script, in which case it's obvious she and Steve just skimmed it). Though I did get a chuckle out of "I need to get a swamp".
    - Through it all, Gaga seems legitimately thrilled (almost starstruck) to be talking to Kermit, which is nice.
    - Piggy and Kermit bit - seen it a thousand times. We all knew it was coming, so let's move on.
    - Another Gaga song.
    - S&W bit.
    - Beaker/Chef/Animal bit (hey, I just noticed Animal's Dr. Teeth drum set was brought back).
    - "May your holiday be filled with warmth and happiness, and of course, chickens". (I don't know about my holiday, but my stomach might be filled with chickens - don't worry, it'll be the non-Muppet kind).
    - I loved the (probably improvised) chicken fight.

    Part 8:
    - Despite the continuous 'flanderization' of Piggy, I did get a chuckle out of her mocking Gaga's name.
    - Piggy's cover of "Santa Baby" sounds nearly identical to the "Green and Red Christmas" version.
    - Good ol' Kermit!
    - "Muppets Most Wanted" preview: Cute intro. A few new clips.

    Part 9/Final Part:
    - Another predictable scene with Piggy.
    - Well, the gang's all (mostly) here! Kermit, Piggy, Walter, Gonzo, Fozzie, Pepe, Animal, Bunsen, Beaker, Scooter, Rowlf, Beauregard, Dr. Teeth, Floyd, Zoot, two chickens, J.G., that strangely familiar green frackle... and the rest (are here on Gilligan's Isle...).
    - Outtakes! Nothing better than seeing the performers playing off of each other like that.
    - No credits for the Muppet performers?
    - Our ol' pal Jim Lewis was involved.
    - "Whatever I did, I didn't do on purpose!"

    Was this special a "turkey" like Statler said? Eh, it was okay. There's enough Muppety goodness for both fans and non-fans. Definitely worth at least one viewing. Could it have been better? Sure. As much as I liked the various Muppet bits, they're still mostly on 'meh' side. Almost as though not enough energy went into this. Can't really say anything about Gaga's songs, as I skipped over most of them. And okay, maybe Gaga's not an actress (the Muppets actually came off as the better actors), but at least she's a Muppet fan.
  18. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    He (or rather his second performer) has had the ring at least since the Studio DC specials.
  19. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I really don't want to hear that people think Piggy was out of character in this show, because I don't believe it was true.
    First off the Karate chop, Kermit clearly deserved it, and has gotten chopped for way less as far back as the Muppet Show days.
    Secondly, Piggy making fun of Gaga's name. Classic!
    Third, Piggy's daydream and song. She looked and sounded beautiful. Her hair, and her dress where perfect. This is the third or second time she has sung this song, and each time she sounds better.
    Fourth, Kermit saying that there was nothing between him and Gaga, and kind of being sweet to Piggy at the end was really great.
    So what I am trying to say, Piggy was great in this show!
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  20. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Isn't it completely part of Piggy's schtick that she's not treated like the star she should be?

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