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Your Thoughts: "Muppets Most Wanted" Theatrical Film

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, Mar 20, 2014.

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How would you rate Muppets Most Wanted?

  1. 5 Stars - Perfect

    84 vote(s)
    46.9%
  2. 4 Stars - Great

    67 vote(s)
    37.4%
  3. 3 Stars - Good

    18 vote(s)
    10.1%
  4. 2 Stars - Fair

    7 vote(s)
    3.9%
  5. 1 Star - Poor

    3 vote(s)
    1.7%

  1. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    My God, I just read this now. Seriously? That was painful....and explains a lot...These were the guys they chose to write for the Muppets? Wow...

    And goodness knows Scooter wasn't around to do it himself oh wait....Lol
     
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  2. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member



    Wow you know that really just sank in what they said there! Wow who in there right mind thinks all the Muppets are Dumb. Where would they even get that from? I mean even if you just watched Season One of the Muppet Show you would know that the Muppets are not dumb,and or stupid!
     
  3. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Like I said, they got it from a very shallow understanding of Muppet Show, lol.
     
  4. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    If you have read a recent interview with Craig Shemin on Tough Pigs, he talks about writing for the Muppets. He talks about writing for Gonzo and for Fozzie, and it is refreshing getting his mindset as how to write for them. Like I have said before I love the writers the Muppets already have without bringing in big name writers. Honestly hearing Stroller and Bobin say these things does not take away my love for the Most Wanted, but I really would like for them NOT to write the next movie, if the Muppets do another one.

    Here is a link to the interview I'm talking about:

    http://www.toughpigs.com/craig-shemin-part-2/
     
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  5. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Thanks for sharing, that's a lot more refreshing!

     
  6. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    And with reading that you almost ask yourself why in the world is he not writing these Muppet movies.
     
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  7. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Looking at his credits for the first time, yeah this guy has some serious street cred with the Muppets. But I suppose he's more a Henson Co. guy at this point than a Disney one?

    In any case looking at Stoller and Bobin's credits, I'm not exactly sure what stood out to the studio execs as perfect for Muppets, heh.
     
  8. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member


    It's true he may be working a lot with Henson, but it seems like Jim Lewis is still working with the Muppets, and when he is busy Craig is his go to guy.
     
  9. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

  10. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Well to be fair Fozzie has been getting dumbed down by writers since 1996 in MTI, and in the commentary for the movie Brian even talks about how it did not sit well with Frank Oz. So it's not just these writers, this is something that has been going on for a long time.
     
  11. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Oh absolutely, you're right. It didn't start with these writers. I just wish it could have ended with them, lol.
     
  12. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Well I think the only way it would be able to stop now is if the Muppets have there own TV show, and there they would have time to develop and re-develop the Muppsts. I think they also need to have a new head writer like Jerry was back when the Muppet Show was on the air. To have so many people come in and write for the Muppets these last few years has done more damage to who they truly are then any good.
     
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  13. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Agreed, even the casual fans I speak to immediately mention that. The reason the Muppets started doing films in the first place is because they had such a huge following on Television.
     
  14. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I don't think it needs to be exactly like the Muppet Show though. It needs to be something that will bring all of the Muppets out and able to shine though. So maybe it does need to be like the Muppet Show for that to really happen. The question is would America, and the world watch a variety show like that now a days?
     
  15. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    The question for me is do I want the Muppets copying what is currently popular on Television. ::shudder:: Lol
     
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  16. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member


    I think we all know the answer to that, I mean look what happend with the Lady Gaga show, and studio DC. I almost think the Muppets would do better just having a web series or something.
     
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  17. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    First of all, all I'm gonna say about Walter is he was the first Muppet created under the Disney name. So, I'll let you all piece together that puzzle on why he might be honing in on Scooter's territory a bit. Second about James Bobin it's interesting because supposedly he was this huge Muppet fan and even talks about watching TMS with his dad when he was younger but maybe he should go back and rewatch TMS again.

    Honestly considering how the movie has faired which isn't good I would be beyond surprised at this point if Disney even wanted to do a tv special with them. Kermit even said in several interviews well if you want to see another MS then you'll need to help us with sales for this one. :/
     
  18. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Which is sad because as great as this movie was, that was still some things missing. Plus it just did not do so well in the box office. Maybe it's DVD/Blu-ray sales will be better.
     
  19. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    I don't know how much it would've helped sales but I think if they had marketed not just the whole Constantine replacing Kermit bit but also showing more of the "wedding" it might've had a different outcome. Even if it was just showing Piggy in her wedding dress and as a cliffhanger they could've marketed "and will Kermit and Piggy finally say I do?" Or something like that. Might be more in vain for me to say but I feel like if they had emphasized more the Kermit and Piggy relationship and the Muppets in general instead of Constantine and Ricky Gervais it might've had a different outcome. I do think Ricky being in it hurt sales. a lot too. I read a lot of people were just turned off by him being in a Muppet movie.
     
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  20. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Well maybe or they could have gone in a completely different direction entirely. I hope I'm not letting anything out, but the last time I talked to Jim Lewis witch was about a year ago, he told me him and Frank Oz had been working on a movie script, but Disney went with the writers for Muppets Most Wanted.
     

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