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Your Thoughts: "Muppets Most Wanted" Theatrical Film

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, Mar 20, 2014.


How would you rate Muppets Most Wanted?

  1. 5 Stars - Perfect

    84 vote(s)
  2. 4 Stars - Great

    67 vote(s)
  3. 3 Stars - Good

    18 vote(s)
  4. 2 Stars - Fair

    7 vote(s)
  5. 1 Star - Poor

    3 vote(s)

  1. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    I just said in another thread The Muppets seem to be liked more abroad then domestically. Kermit said in an interview he really would love to do TMS again but he said how well this film does would depend on it or the whole world writing letters to Disney. :p
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  2. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    That's my facebook banner and it's pretty much how I felt about the film. 4/5 stars. I love the music, the wit and the irreverent antics. It was about ten minutes too long. A little tightening would have helped and that's why I took away half a star. The other half is just because there was still a little room for improvement. ​
    I've got to be honest, this film is struggling this weekend. If there are any fans here waiting for home video, well then your complicit to the film's weak opening. Go friggin see it!​
    I could break down the good and the bad and nitpick this to death, but my only real criticism is that I'd rather see the Muppets in a weekly show than pin their entire franchise on a film.​
    My plan: I still firmly believe that ABC should knock America's "Funniest" Home Videos to Friday nights (YouTube exists now and the audience that still watches the program has followed it to that time slot before) and relaunch an abbreviated version of The Wonderful World of Disney on Sunday nights from 7-8pm. Teens, college students and families are back from their weekend outings around that time and often gather around the television. That hour before prime time could be used as a promotional tool for Disney's many brands including behind the scenes, previews, short subjects and, some weeks, a Muppet Show. It's the perfect soft-testing ground for new things Disney, Marvel, Pixar and Muppets and there's no pressure or shame of cancellation of these specials. That hour, as it stands, remains a wasted opportunity for the greatest marketing company in the business.
  3. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    AFV is actually coming to an end in the 25th season (I don't know what season they're in now).
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  4. LamangoNumber2

    LamangoNumber2 Well-Known Member

    Anyone else see Blind Pew as one of the Gulag prisoners?
  5. AlittleMayhem

    AlittleMayhem Well-Known Member

    I just came back from seeing this flick and it was awesome!


    I think I'll write my thoughts later since everyone has said what I thought, but yeah.

    Mostly awesome!
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  6. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    I would see it again today if I could but being a new mom I can't just up and go whenever I want. I really hope the theaters were more packed today but it's not sounding good. Yesterday at the theater I went to it was just pathetic. When you can count how many people are seated that's bad.
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  7. muppetlover123

    muppetlover123 Well-Known Member

    When your by yourself in the theater its pretty bad...
  8. antsamthompson9

    antsamthompson9 Well-Known Member

    I just got back from seeing the movie. It was amazing! The songs were great, I can't get enough of I'll Give it to You, Constantine is awesome, and the movie focuses on the Muppets instead of humans like the last film. A critic said this movie was better than the last one? Well, I agree! Don't get me wrong, I still love the 2011 Muppet movie, but this one is much better.
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  9. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Yeah you win...:(
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  10. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    My goodness...my goodness. Where do I even begin to write a review? I left the movie feeling shocked at how GOOD this was. I sitll have goosebumps thinking about it.
    While I felt the 2011 film felt all over the map, overly sappy, wayyy too liberal with the 4th wall stuff, and cringed every time Segal mugged for the camera...oh and the worst part: it looked more like an ABC two hour special than a real film....this thing from beginning to end felt like a Muppet FILM. the cinematography is amazing, the voices/puppeteering is top notch(Fozzie/Piggy/Animal and Scooter felt like indistinguishable from Hunt), the songs were actually charming and felt like the classics, the chemistry of the muppets felt so real. While the film is mostly centered on Constantine, Piggy, Tina Fey, Ty Berrel and Eagle, I felt Fozzie really shined. And I liked the limited but key role Walter played. But Muppets Most Wanted from opening to ending felt like the classic original films...something I felt the 2011 definitely did not.

    Here's the things that I really really loved especially

    - all the Sesame Street references(Constantine mistakenly calling the Muppet show a show about numbers, sharing, etc and his watching of Kermit on Sesame...why couldnt they just have a Sesame cameo?)

    - Rizzo protesting the lack of screen time he and Robin got in the last film(genius! He should have also protested lack of merchandise and lack of Season 4/5 dvds!)

    - We FINALLY get to see the answer to one of the biggest questions of the last 35 years: What would Kermit and Piggy's kids look like? Havent seen Muppet Babies puppets in awhile

    - Speaking of babies...holy goodness, who knew Bobby Benson and the Baby Band would have such a key pivotal role?

    - the cinematography. My god, the cinematography. The scenes on the train especially, or when the muppets are introduced to Dominick

    - seeing the muppets in the REAL WORLD. And despite some meta references, like the original films this FELT like the real world. Unlike the 2011 one and that out of place 1950s fake Truman show town Segal and Adams were from

    - the darker tone. Gone is the sappy vibe of 2011, and it finally felt like a serious film
    Unlike that horrible misplaced and tacky ninja scene in 2011, there felt like real danger in this one

    - Kermit's temper tirades are back...in several key scenes!!!

    - because of the amazing cinematography, the amazing craftsmanship of the puppet builds, especially the rebuilds, looked exquisite. Seeing so many obscure muppets from TMS was jawdropping

    - felt like we saw a LOT more Muppets this time around, and especially in random background roles

    - the music. Again felt in the spirit of the original one

    - Seventh Seal and Silence of the Lambs references!

    - Jerry Nelson!

    - Lots of Link!

    - Lots of the Mutations!

    - Carl and Behemoth!

    - Return of that weird yellow alien creature in the disco montage!

    - Scooter sounds 100% like Scooter again

    - Gonzo looks somewhat back to normal, as does Fozzie.

    - No scene ruined by human actor oversaturation(and hardly any Disney channel tween show actors)

    Probably a lot I'm missing, need to see it again. And unlike the 2011 one, this is one I feel I could see over and over and enjoy different things each time.

    Yes, they spend a lot of time on the gulag...and yes, Constantine is in most the film, but I also understand the contrast of why it is. I also love that we get to see a lot of different live iterations of the Muppet Show production.

    My only complaint is that I wish they would have brought back the movie parody commercials...how amazing would a Muppet spoof of a Wes Anderson trailer be?
    There needs to be a new Muppet calendar and more Muppet merch, but thats a side issue.

    My only 5 complaints:

    - No Sesame cameos. This would have made it 100% like the originals
    - a little too much time in the gulag, but again I understood this
    - not enough rowlf/rowlf speaking scenes
    - not enough pepe
    - needed jim henson hour and muppets tonight era muppets

    So yeah, not many actual complaints. NO IDEA what some critics are smoking by saying this fall short of the 2011 one. to me it blows that one away
  11. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    According to The Muppet Mindset's interview with Nick Stoller, he wanted to include a cameo by the Martians, but couldn't figure out a way to include them (I would have put them in Constantine's song, or on the train for one scene). It's never brought up in the interview whether Disney and/or Sesame Workshop would have allowed it.

    If I could include one Sesame Street cameo in this, it'd be Grover. Either running the train (he'd probably do just as good a job as Beauregard) or at the wedding (I doubt he'd be the minister, because of Miss Piggy). There's a number of reasons why Grover would have been a good choice for the wedding: his various jobs (he could have been a caterer or the usher), the fact that of all the Sesame Street characters he's been the closest to Kermit, and Grover's traveling experience as "Global Grover".
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  12. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Hugga Wugga! That's the yellow creature in the disco scene, thanks! And how COULD I FORGET THE BEST PART??? The Spanish recreation of the Muppet theme show opening. BRILLIANT!(thanks slackbot for reminding me)

    Loved how bizarre and odd it was when Constantine fainted.
  13. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Really? I felt like there was less of that than I would have expected.
  14. galagr

    galagr Well-Known Member

    Agreed. In fact, let's take a look at some negative reviews and laugh at how hilariously BS they are!


    Too much humans in this movie you say? They take away from the Muppets themselves? Excuse me, Mr. Reviewer, did you even see the previous movie?


    I can't take this guy seriously. He called the 2011 movie "The Muppet Movie" in the first paragraph. Good lord, at least know your source material before you unfairly give it a negative review.

    I'm not saying this movie is perfect. It's definitely not. But it doesn't deserve to be reviewed by such...ignorant people. Seeing countless reviews, comments, and posts that express negative thoughts really gets me wondering if people have just completely changed their taste in movies within the past three years.
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  15. sesamemuppetfan

    sesamemuppetfan Well-Known Member

    Just saw it today. At the end, I was incredibly speechless. That was literally one of the most enjoyable recent movies, I've seen. From the beginning to the end! It was just above and beyond!

    To anyone who hasn't seen it yet, you BETTER see it as soon as you can, and I dare you not to laugh!

    One thing that kind of unsettled me was Rizzo and Robin's lines. As stupid of a question as it may sound, does this mean that they're getting phased out altogether?

    But either way, this was a stupendous movie, and I can't wait to "see-he-he-he" it again!! This film was so awesome that I already cannot resist taking a second trip within the next couple weeks or so!!
  16. Twisted Tails

    Twisted Tails Well-Known Member

    Yes I did, LamangoNumber2! I did see MTI before I saw this movie.
  17. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    I still think Disney's trying to distinguish the brand away from Sesame Street. Many of the critics seem to still be confused about who the Muppets are. All too often people go to Muppet Babies or Sesame first.
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  18. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Regarding the possible low opening weekend numbers(and the fact I definitely see way more families and parents and kids reaching for Pixar merch at disney stores)...I think society has coddled and nullified kids and people in general with all this CG saturation

    Oh wow! Wow...that would have rocked. It would have nudged the film from amazing to visionary to have had the yip yips. The fact Stoller even thought of this makes me happy. And yeah Grover as a waiter would have been nice. Now Im not saying we needed a ton of Sesame cameos ala TMM or MTM...but just one would have been amazing. Like Uncle Matt in TMM(I read he was also suppose to be in Muppets From Space)

    Maybe in the next film. Constantine's misbelief the Muppet Show is Sesame Street and the brief Sesame video clip definitely bring us that much closer to a Sesame cameo. ONLY thing worse than no cameo would have been if Bobin had filmed the yip yips but cut it for time
  19. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Anyone wish that they had used Joe the Armadillo for the armadillo joke?

    Also that scene of Beau as the conducter sticking his head out...so amazing and cinematic. Also who else got a big thrill from the Seventh Seal spoof?

    I see nothing wrong with this. That perception will never change, so why not have fun with it? They even directly reference this with Constantine believing the Muppet Show is Sesame Street when we first see Constantine pretending to be Kermit.

    And we officially have the return of Anime Muppet Babies with the Lipton Commerical.

    Im all for more live action Muppet Babies :)
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  20. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    Actually, yeah. That perception needs to change in order for the Muppets to be successful on a wider scale. It wasn't always that way. The Muppet brand languished too much in the years between Henson's death and the Disney purchase.

    The adage is true. You can't go home again. But - the Muppets can honor their roots while strengthening their brand.
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