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Your Thoughts: The Muppet Show Season 3

Discussion in 'Muppet Merchandise' started by Phillip, May 14, 2008.

  1. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter Well-Known Member

    The voice pops up quite a few times on the show. I'll have to count the next time I go through the set.
  2. David French

    David French Well-Known Member

    Small error on my behalf in last post - Muppet Movie began production in Summer 1978, hence the hiatus that occurs during production of TMS Season Three.

    Re-read copy of Christopher Finch's Jim Henson: The Works book. Sorry about that.
  3. bazooka_beak

    bazooka_beak Well-Known Member

    I'm on disc two and my favorite episodes so far are the Pearl Bailey and Gilda Radner ones :) Pearl was completely natural, like she'd been working with the muppets for years. The ending was great.

    I didn't like the first episode with the singing couple, though. They felt wooden and overall it was rather boring. I can't wait to watch more, since most of these I've never seen.

    Some of these celebrity names I had to google, others I sorta knew, others I could actually get excited about.

    Is it just me or do they seem big on dancing bird people this season? ;)
  4. Davina

    Davina Well-Known Member

    my favorite episode is the Danny Kaye one.. but then, I'm a big fan of his old movies and such, so to have him being silly along side the muppets was really great for me.
  5. Kermieuk

    Kermieuk Well-Known Member

    Also working my way through the set. Just finished watching Harry Belafonte, although I have seen it many times, but I still love it.

    Its great to read about each episode on Muppet Wiki before watching them, it gives tips on things to watch out for and some stories of how that epsiode or sketch came to be. Also if you click on each guest star name it links to a page that gives info on each guest. Its quite sad when you read that Gilder Radner died of ovarian Cancer at a young age, and that Pearl Bailey collapsed and died in a Hotel, makes watching the episodes of them even more special.

    I also noticed how some of the puppets had a make over mid season, starting with the Balefonte Episode. I guess this is when Kermit first appeared made of Fleece, unless its the puppet used for The Muppet Movie? Piggy had also had a makeover, up until now I though each season meant a new set of puppets, but not the case!

    Still season three is great, there is not a single episode that I do not like!

    Now for another problem, I have all 120 epsodes of The Muppet Show on VHS, mostly from various sources, Nickelodeon, US, Canadian re runs etc. What do I do with them now? As season 2 and three are both COMPLETE it seems silly to keep all these VHS tapes, but some have the original ITC ending, but does that few seconds really justify keeping them all, with the better sound and picture quality, I would always watch the DVD's in the future anyway? Just wandered what others in this situation were doing?

  6. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter Well-Known Member

    Actually, there are at least two Fozzie puppets used during season two (I actually think there might be three). I don't remember which it is, but there are occasions in season 2 where two very different Fozze Bear puppets are used within the same episode! Then in the Edgar Bergen episode, when Gonzo wrestles the brick, he's season two Gonzo, when he comes backstage from his wrestling disaster, he's season one Gonzo. There's a lot of puppet switching that goes on.
  7. peyjenk

    peyjenk Well-Known Member

    So I watched "A Company of Players" today and was majorly disappointed. I knew from MC that it would be short, but it was so well-put together and so cool that it made me sad that it only lasted 10 minutes and had nothing new to say or show. It felt more like a preview of a documentary than an actual DVD featurette. I mean, seriously: what were they thinking? Very, very frustrating.

    Another thing that makes me want to bang my head against the wall: on the back of the DVD box, it references the "hardest working muppets in show business". Uuuh... hello... they are the ONLY Muppets in show business and the word "Muppet" is capitalized. That's a small thing, I know, but it just shows that whoever puts these things together really doesn't know much about Jim Henson or the Muppets.

    On a more positive note, though, I was pleased that Disney and Sesame were able to work it out to have Big Bird in the Leslie Uggams ep. It would have been a shame to have edited him out.
  8. Davina

    Davina Well-Known Member

    oohh.. good question about the tapes... i haven't even given thought to that yet... I've also got a fairly complete, taped from reruns here and there collection, which also includes a lot of specials we haven't seen on dvd yet (though we just got a dvd recorder so am thinking of transfering them..)
    I suppose I'll have to go through them all and see if there are bits I want to keep along with the specials (maybe some of those "missing" bits from season 1..) and transfer them... dang that's going to be a big project.....
  9. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter Well-Known Member

    :o I actually hadn't seen much of The Muppet Show before the DVDs started coming out (other than on compilation videos). So, most of this is all new to me. One exception would be the complete season one, which I got in a trade before it was ever announced to come on DVD. I'm keeping them (or at least the episodes that were cut) so that I can watch the full episodes. The Paul Williams episode loses something when you don't get to see the opening number. Now, if they ever come out with an uncut season one set, then I'll get rid of the other ones.

    :cool: Personally, the original Zoot endings aren't that important to me. I mean, it is a bit odd that an entire episode could take place in a train station, and then all of a sudden Zoot's back in the theater. Or that all of the cast could be turned into chickens, except Zoot turns back just at that last minute. But, personally, I think they're small enough that I try not to worry about it too much. Though, I can totally understand wanting to keep those.
  10. Erine81981

    Erine81981 Well-Known Member

    I would keep anything no matter what. I'm still wanting to get every episode on VHS or DVD even if they are recorded versions from different channels. I would love to have season one, two, three, four and five to at least have all the real endings and the cut peices from season one. I had those episodes that had the cuts and they had the real endings. The only reason why i would like any tapes or DVDs with original ending just cause that's the way they were shown to begin with. But that's me.
  11. Boppity

    Boppity Well-Known Member

    I'm almost finished with all the episodes! I'd only seen a few from season 3 before :] So far I think this season is the best.
    I have to complain about the cover, too. I kind of want to take it to Photoshop and fix it up a bit...but they could have used a new shot! I think what really bugs me is Floyd in the back...he looks so out of place.
    Another thing I found slightly weird was in the Roger Miller episode, there was a Floyd-chicken playing bass in the final number, but then a regular chicken playing bass in the end credits...twas weird XD

    Aside from that, I love it! (Even if those bird-headed people scare me...) I can't wait for the final two seasons!
  12. JJandJanice

    JJandJanice Well-Known Member

    Man I'm loving it so far, it's a bummer that the Muppets on Puppets special audio gets cut though, but it's great I'm loving it.
  13. Dr. Bombay

    Dr. Bombay Well-Known Member

    I've been loving watching Season 3 and have to agree with the sentiments expressed before about how the show feels like it's hit it's stride with this season.

    I've only watched Disc 1 and the Alice Cooper episode plus the Purina commercials and the "Company of Players" and part of "Muppets on Puppets".

    I gotta say that I shall never watch the Leo Sayer episode again...well, you can never say never but he is the weirdest, no, creepiest guest they've ever had...he was almost unbearable to watch!

    My favorites so far have been Pearl Bailey and Jean Stapleton. I got chills during Jean's episode when the entire theater is shown! The Muppet Theater is THE most awesome place! When I was little I wanted to live back stage and now that I'm big, I STILL want to live back stage!

    I think Alice Cooper's episode was AWESOME! And it will now become a part of the annual Halloween TV tradition.
  14. Erine81981

    Erine81981 Well-Known Member

    Same here with this episode. Can't wait for Halloween to come around now so i can share this one with my necies.
  15. ploobis

    ploobis Well-Known Member

    Don't forget about the Vincent Price episode too!

    I know Vincent Price was in season 1 but what would Halloween be with out the VP episode?

    We should all watch the VP and AC episodes of The Muppet Show every Halloween! :)
  16. Erine81981

    Erine81981 Well-Known Member

    I just would rather have the uncut version too. I need to find (buy) the DVD that came out with them two episodes on it other then bring two DVD's over.
  17. ploobis

    ploobis Well-Known Member

    You mean how the two episodes were both on one of the Time Life DVD's?

    I have all 15 of the Time Life Muppet Shows on VHS!
  18. MartyMuppets

    MartyMuppets Well-Known Member

    Basically what it all boils down to is they never made the Muppet Show series with any strong purposeful continuity flow. I mean often they just introduced new Muppet characters with little or no background story as to where they came from and they certainly never attempted to offer any explanation for the characters who disappeared, such as Hilda. You can essentially watch all the episodes in any order jumping back and forth among seasons and they function naturally as stand alone shows.

    Anyway I look forward to my season 3 copy when my brother buys it for me as a Christmas present. I know it seems so far away, but I'll last it out.
  19. Zack the Dog

    Zack the Dog Well-Known Member

    Does anyone know why Fozzie and Rowlf's "Actors life for me" song is in two diffrent episodes? did any one noticed that? or am i not thinking clearly? lol! Was it just always like that a reused skit? I like that one a lot, just didn't know it was used twice. are there any other skits reused like that? i mean i know about the newsman on season one dvds.
  20. David French

    David French Well-Known Member

    I'd keep them; even though I've got the first two season sets, I've still got some off-air episodes on VHS that use the HIT! logo which I intend on keeping. That way I can compare and contrast with other fans on the different endings that were used over the years.

    Sorry Bill, but that's wrong. It's quite clear from watching the episodes and studying the original recording order and UK & US air dates that there was a continuity flow in place.

    In the US and UK, the Jim Nabors episode aired before the Ruth Buzzi episode which indicates they always intended the former episode to be Scooter's debut. The character doesn't appear in the original Juliet Prowse or Connie Stevens pilots, nor does he appear in the Joel Grey and Rita Moreno episodes.

    As I said earlier in this thread, the production order is not the same as the recording order; episodes were occasionally recorded out of order most likely owing to the availability of the guest star.

    Kris Kristofferson & Rita Coolidge's episode was recorded in February 1978, while Pearl Bailey's was recorded in March 1978. Bailey's episode, however, aired first in the UK in April 1978 while Kris & Rita's episode aired in December 1978. The likely scenario is that Kris & Rita's episode underran meaning they had to drop in some more skits (which would explain the reuse of "New York State of Mind").

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