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Your Thoughts: The Muppets Season 1 Episode 102 - Hostile Makeover

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, Sep 29, 2015.

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What did you think of "The Muppets" episode "Hostile Makeover"?

  1. Absolutely positively! This episode was great!

  2. Bork bork! This episode was good.

  3. Mee mee. This episode was so-so.

  4. You're all weirdos! This episode was disappointing.

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  1. Ladywarrior

    Ladywarrior Well-Known Member

    heralde you make a lot of good points and you're right on too. Just because TMS messed things a few times (NOBODY is claiming the show was perfect) doesn't mean they should be allowed to get away with 'jokes' like that.
    Besides I remember dr. tooth bringing up south park and what they do. South park tends to WANT to be offensive in stuff they do. That show IS offensive. The muppet show I believe wasn't doing anything like that INTENTIONALLY to offend people, it was done in a non offensive way.
    Are you going to complain about THIS too?

    Or do they egt a pass with this because the vikings were WHITE?
     
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  2. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Oh! I love that skit! If anyone would find that offensive then they are to sensitive and need to be wearing diapers! I mean come on I always thought that one of the under liying messages of the muppets where that we all maybe different on the outside but on the inside we are all the same.
     
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  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    The vikings were pigs.
     
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  4. Ladywarrior

    Ladywarrior Well-Known Member

    How dare you imply vikings are pigs! I am SO triggered right now! :D
     
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  5. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Yea how dare you sully the pig race by calling them Vikings!

    Lol really?? Is this something to get our feathers all ruffled?
    Trying to be politically correct has become such a farce that people can't state how they feel or what they believe anymore without upsetting someone. People today are to sensitive, and need to grow up. Now don't get me wrong, there are some cases of racial hatered that is beyond bad, but come on we are talking about a television show here. You don't have to watch it if it offends you.
     
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  6. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    But the problem isn't the fact that it may offend some people, it's the fact that stereotypes in the media can be quite damaging to the people that are being stereotyped. Television and movies have a profound impact on shaping peoples' beliefs and opinions on the world and other people. Not to mention the fact that stereotypes can even end up damaging a person's perception of themselves. Stereotypes are a major reason that some people are treated differently(and often times quite poorly) than others.
     
  7. Daffyfan2003

    Daffyfan2003 Well-Known Member

    Okay. I don't know who either of those guys are and I probably should being a Muppet fan and all. Lol.
     
  8. Muppy

    Muppy Well-Known Member

    *Pops head into business that isn't mine for a second* I think everyone here is going a little over board and looking for offensive stuff in things that aren't even offensive in the first place. You can find something offensive in everything if you look hard enough. Also the videos you guys are posting are from the 70's/80's when things tended to be a little more sterotype-y and offensive but they didn't know better because that's just how people were portrayed.
     
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  9. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Mike Quinn is a Muppet performer who has been with the Muppets since the Muppet Show days. He mostly dose background and right hands and other stuff.
    Jim Lewis is a Muppet writer who has worked with the Muppets quite a bit. He even had a thread on here where he would answer fans questions.
     
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  10. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    And there lies the major problem. People can't think for themselves anymore. They rely to heavily on the media to do there thinking for them. Instead of forming there own thoughts and ideas on there own. God help us if TV and Movies suddenly stopped no one would no how to think for themselves.
     
  11. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Anyway this is clearly an argument nobody can win so I suggest we all just drop it.This issue I think is much more complicated and broad then certain people on this website seem to understand. So can we please stop talking about it?
     
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  12. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Um if your talking about me, I know exactly what I'm talking about. Questioning my intelligence is not a smart idea.
     
  13. Muppy

    Muppy Well-Known Member

    I agree!

    Anyway ... who's excited to see Rowlf's tavern and that new female Muppet? Do you think she'll just be a one off character?
     
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  14. Ladywarrior

    Ladywarrior Well-Known Member

    speaking of things that are offensive to people. Take a gander at Hetalia sometime. that anime is offensive to everyone who isn't japanese. It's not funny either.

    Dwayne I was being sarcastic bout the viking pigs but you probably guessed that. The "in the navy" skit is friggin' hilarious.


    and te "new" muppet still makes me think of the brunnete from 'at the dance".
     
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  15. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Very excited for Rowlf,as for the new female character we really can't be sure as we have almost no information about her yet. But I still really hope she becomes a main or recurring character,if she's good that is,although we don't even know if she even has much to do in the episode.
     
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  16. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Well, all my friends who like anime (particular fangirl friends) love it - maybe it's an acquired taste.

    On that token, it could be said that HOGAN'S HEROES is offensive because it portrays the Nazis as loveable buffoons (and many of the castmembers on that show were, in fact, Jewish).
     
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  17. Daffyfan2003

    Daffyfan2003 Well-Known Member

    Okay. Well, there we go. Maybe he could return and write some episodes for this series. Just a thought.
     
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  18. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I would love that!
     
  19. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    As would I, and this is something else I've been saying for quite some time: Jim Lewis is perhaps the one Muppet writer who really could tap into the characters and their stories since Jerry Juhl (Joey Mazzarino would be another) - but again, Disney apparently feels its necessary to bring in more mainstream writers for this show to try to make it a mainstream success, even though the Muppets always thrived on their own team of likemindeed creative pioneers.
     
  20. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Jim Lewis still writes for the Muppets (he's done some of the latest YouTube videos in this past year).

    Disney isn't bringing these people in; they're going to Disney. If it were up to Disney, we'd probably just get those Muppet Moment clips and once in a blue moon appearances on The Chew or something. Bill Prady, Jason Segel and the rest are all people who love the Muppets and want to see something done with them. Bill was pitching this show to them for years. Disney probably wasn't looking to do this on their own free will.
     
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