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Your Thoughts: The Muppets Season 1 Episode 103 - Bear Left Then Bear Write

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, Oct 6, 2015.


What did you think of "The Muppets" episode "Bear Left Then Bear Write"?

  1. Absolutely positively! This episode was great!

    33 vote(s)
  2. Bork bork! This episode was good.

    15 vote(s)
  3. Mee mee. This episode was so-so.

    2 vote(s)
  4. You're all weirdos! This episode was disappointing.

    1 vote(s)

  1. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    I'm honestly not sure who they think they're making this show for. I'm not sure if they know. I grew up in the 80s, but the last time I was shocked at someone saying "Oh God" or drawing naughty pictures in a card was a very long time ago, lol. And, um, well how can I put this? I always got the impression Zoot had moved well beyond the pot stage, heh. None of this show feels like adult humor.
    Last edited: Oct 7, 2015

    DARTH MUPPET Well-Known Member

    so you are saying it would be appropriate for my 7 year old nephew? or do you mean it would be OK for 14 years and older? the 14 year old and older crowd I can buy with parental discretion but younger then that I would feel wrong showing it to them?
  3. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Well understand, I wasn't raised with my TV viewing censored. I don't believe in that. I think people give Television more blame than it deserves as far as influence.

    But that's not really what I'm talking about. I'm saying as an adult, I feel like this humor is too young for me.
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  4. Ladywarrior

    Ladywarrior Well-Known Member

    THIS! ALL OF THIS! :D:sing::cool::halo::flirt:

    DARTH MUPPET Well-Known Member

    I wasn't censored either I grew up on the X Files and The Simpsons but I admit some of the stuff my parents let me watch was probably inappropriate and might have caused me to have issues growing up as a kid into a young adult. but this new muppets is definitely an adult show regardless .....
  6. Ladywarrior

    Ladywarrior Well-Known Member

    by the way darth I am not against pot being used for medical reasons I am just not a fan of using it just because. at least then it has a point to it.
  7. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Well I won't comment on your personal experience of course. From my point of view, growing up with poor role models (not my parents) and even poorer peers is what gave me issues, lol.

    If I had to guess, I think this show is going for, at best, a college crowd. I just don't see this humor connecting with people who grew up in the 70s and 80s (in general, obviously there are always exceptions).

    DARTH MUPPET Well-Known Member

    College kids are in the Eyes of the law adults, but I think you are wrong, I was born in 1981 and am 34 years old I think this new Muppets was made for people like me, my dad is someone who was born in 1954 and he loves the show he also loves Bobs Burgers on Fox we both do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  9. terrimonster

    terrimonster Well-Known Member

    I don't know what any of this has to do with my post or the show in general. OK, I guess Scooter said, "legally now." But they're hardly discussing the topic of legalization, and they're not talking about, or asking, how you feel about it. And now that we all know, neither are we.

    By the way, in 2 US time zones the show airs at 7:00. So even if your nephew's bedtime were the ultimate model for all children (my 22-month-old goes to bed at 8-8:30) it would still be on before the proper bed time in Chicago, Dallas, Denver, etc.
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    DARTH MUPPET Well-Known Member

    because the muppets new show is bringing drugs in to there story lines, like it or not.
  11. terrimonster

    terrimonster Well-Known Member

    Comedic value and audience-appropriateness of drug references: on-topic.
    Personal opinions on drug use and legalization, especially if not tied directly in to discussion of the show: off-topic.
    Your personal opinions on drug use and legalization: sufficiently covered in previous comments.
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  12. Ladywarrior

    Ladywarrior Well-Known Member

    darth, kindly let it go. Not everyone thinks like you do. Not everyone wants t legal to be used recreationally. You have to accept this and people WILL get mad and annoyed abut it. and yes I will be annoyed at the jokes about that.
    You seem to be missing the point. In EVERY single episode so far when the electric mayhem has been used for a joke it ALWAYS involves drugs. To me it feels like the characters are being reduced to nothing but excuses to make jokes about drugs which I consider very offensive to the characters. They should not be devolved into that. It's annoying especially for those who happen to love the band.
  13. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    To be fair, since the show brought it up, I don't think it's off topic to discuss the legalization issue. Obviously we're not all going to agree, but we've done that with other topical issues.
  14. terrimonster

    terrimonster Well-Known Member

    When did the show bring up the legalization issue? Saying the band is happy "legally" is not the same as bringing up the issue, just a fact. I don't see what it has to do with the show to state one's views of why drugs shouldn't be legal any more than to argue why they should. I do think it's on topic to discuss how those topics work within the show (since, you know, the show is the topic). It would be different if Scooter or Bobo had opined on the significance of legalization or its cultural ramifications, but that didn't happen. And that scene wasn't in the episode that is the topic of this thread.

    Question: "What did you think of episode 3?"
    Answer 1: "I think drugs are bad, m'kay?"
    Answer 2: "No, drugs are cool. I wish more states were more like mine."
    Answer 3: "I like how they have the guts to semi-openly discuss drug use."

    Only one of those responses has to do with the question.
  15. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Modern Family and Goldbergs are the only shows on non premium tv that make me laugh hard every week. But add Muppets to the list, and its the trifecta. CBS on the other hand is tumbleweed city

    Goldbergs is probably the most "wholesome" tv show on tv, very g/lite pg, but for someone who literally did grow up in the 1980s I can vouch for its authenticity and funny bone

    Also why do people keep trying to compare this new Muppets to the 70s Muppet Show? Its like hello! Its 2015
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  16. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    To me its not about sly edgy jokes or pop culture references, its the chemistry magic and writing and this show more and more every week is proving it has all of that. All the jokes could be about maple syrup and I think itd still work. I see a lot of subtle complexities which frankly just feel so alive and amazing
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  17. Ladywarrior

    Ladywarrior Well-Known Member

    because these are still the same muppets from then. they're not rebooted new characters who happen to share the same names.
  18. terrimonster

    terrimonster Well-Known Member

    I agree with both of you. The show should be judged on its own merit, as a show that airs in the 2015 TV landscape. At the same time, they're the identical characters that we grew up with. Their appearance hasn't changed significantly, but their behaviors have. It's going to draw comparisons.

    To draw a truly horrible comparison, when "Fuller House" comes out, people won't expect DJ Tanner/Fuller to be the same character she was 25 years ago on "Full House." The actress has aged, the character has aged, the audience will/should expect some increased maturity. But Kermit hasn't aged in 40 years. It's natural to expect him to be the same, even if it's also unfair.

    Not quite related to the same issue... Beaker, I think your point about maple syrup is one problem I have with the show so far. It would work even if it weren't the Muppets. So what makes it special? I'm starting to wonder if it makes it a little less muppety that it doesn't require a Muppet presence to work.
  19. PuppetMad

    PuppetMad Well-Known Member

    I hate the fact that I cant watch this show till the 19th because i'm in the U.K, but I cant help reading the reviews and opinions you guys post, and that makes it worse.
  20. Blue Frackle

    Blue Frackle Well-Known Member

    Rowlf biting his stitches... genuinely funny.

    I kind of sensed a bit of a Michael-Dwight thing between Kermit and Fozzie, but by the end it actually felt like a good, equal relationship.

    What is with everyone saying "Who are you?" to everyone, especially to Chip? I kind of got the impression that they've been running this show for a couple of years now.
    Last edited: Oct 7, 2015
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