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Your Thoughts: The Muppets Season 1 Episode 104 - Pig Out

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, Oct 13, 2015.

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What did you think of "The Muppets" episode "Pig Out"?

  1. Absolutely positively! This episode was great!

  2. Bork bork! This episode was good.

  3. Mee mee. This episode was so-so.

  4. You're all weirdos! This episode was disappointing.

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  1. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Now that we're seeing this softer side of Sam,I wonder if they'll mention his family again.
     
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  2. ploobis

    ploobis Well-Known Member

  3. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    AGAIN, the difference is the big wigs at Disney love the Muppets. They own ABC. It'd be like if you or I were kazillionares, loved the Muppets and didn't care about ratings. Hoping a full season beyond the 13 commitment is announced soon, but I'm not worried. I know the majority of people left on Muppetcentral are very young, but there's a very long history with Disney and the Muppets.

    Consider the fact Jim Henson was in talks to BUY the entire Disney corporation in 1984, and a full merger between the Muppets and Disney was suppose to happen in 1990 before his untimely passing.
    http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/The_Walt_Disney_Company
     
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  4. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    That 90's deal would have been sweet for both Disney and Henson. Disney would get not only the Muppets but the Fraggles and Dark Crystal and Labyrinth. For Jim he would be able to create not only new things for the Muppets, but also other Fantasy films as well.
     
  5. muppet maniac

    muppet maniac Well-Known Member

    It's been a while since I've posted, but I have to say I'm enjoying the show so far. Can't wait until the next episode airs.

    :) :o :concern: ;) :sympathy:
     
  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    There had better be a lot of love with this series at Disney then. This show needs to at least exceed the number of MT episodes. Probably won't even do that.
     
  7. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    There's more than enough feedback for Disney to work with at this point if they want to bring audiences back. They'd do well to give this a read, for instance:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/22/arts/television/review-muppets-abc-kermit-ms-piggy.html?_r=0

     
  8. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'll agree that there needs to be a better balance, but it's just that "unironic sweetness" can turn into unadulterated syrupy saccharine if they're not too careful. Like I said before, LTS was just... diabetic. Especially Uma "kills people in Tarantino films" Thurman as that sugar coated sweetened fairy type character. Unless that was so unironic that it was ironic, it felt like she was there for a celebrity bump and little else.

    The problem with most modern Muppet projects is that they either get the sweet or the crazy right. The 2 new movies got the balance as good as we're going to get it. VMX to an extent, but the jokes were far snarkier there than here. The telefilm I always complain about was just...dire and dark. Far worse than this show could ever be accused of. And need I speak of the preschool videos like Muppets on Wheels?

    I think that, like most modern shows, the problem with the tone is they're building up, ever so slowly to those kinds of moments. There's hints of them here and there, but it feels like something has to play out first for it to shine. There's room for improvement in the show, though I think the one thing that desperately needs to be fixed is the pacing. Unless they're planting seeds to blossom in future story lines, they don't need a "C" plot if they don't have time for it. I'd say abandon those C plots and just focus on the A's and B's and have them fleshed out a little more. Who knows, we could certainly see the character development and closeness in those storylines if they have more room to breathe.

    That said, ratings don't necessarily equal quality. I mean, AFV is still on the network. That's the lowest of the lowest common denominators and always has been. Other than the fact Youtube rendered it obsolete, I'm baffled by the show's popularity.

    Not to mention that I'm sure whatever audience doesn't find this show acceptable on some level are crapping their pants over the Odd Couple remake. Shudder... I'm a big fan of the original sitcom. I share a birthday with Oscar's actor. I usually like to give things a chance before I complain about them, but I caught like 5 minutes of that and just...blehhh. It's not Oscar and Felix. It's Matthew Perry basically as every character he's ever played and a Poor Man's Niles Crane farting about every lame laugh track sitcom cliche. HOW is that the beloved remake? It's garbage. Total garbage.

    I'm willing to accept some of this show's failure to reach audiences is in it's not being what made the Muppet Show special, but I just think most of it comes from any kind of Muppet TV show not being successful, and mainstream audiences (that is, outside of our little fanbase bubble) only like the Muppets when they do 1 thing every 10 years and disappear.
     
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  9. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    I don't if anyone has said this yet, but the muppets are capped at 13 episodes similar to How To Get Away With Murder, the producers are only making 13 so even if the ratings were huge, there would still be the same amount of episodes, probably because it is hard to make an episode of this.
     
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  10. DARTH MUPPET

    DARTH MUPPET Active Member

    I don't believe I reviewed this episode, I loved it the Karaoke was really funny loved the song from the last episode of the Sopranos!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  11. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    One thing I've been wondering, and am just now getting around to asking: Why does Pepe look tired when he sings "Love Shack"? He starts getting tired eyelids and keeps them until the next day, but it's only the second song (that we see). Does he get tired that easily? It's not like they'd had an evening, or like this performance came after the Muppets decided to stay out all night. He's the only one who looks tired by the time Miss Piggy convinces them to be late for work.
     
  12. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Alcohol.
     
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  13. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    Don't know if it matters or not, but of all the sitcoms ABC reran last night The Muppets, Fresh off the Boat, The Middle, The Goldbergs, Last Man Standing, and Dr.Ken The Muppets was the highest rated of the night, it reran Pig Out, just seems pretty cool.
     
  14. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Do they ever actually say that they're singing karaoke? I think I've seen it in descriptions, but it seems to me like they never actually show a lyrics screen with the characters to look at. So maybe they all know the songs well enough that they try their hands at singing without looking at the screens (though when I sing karaoke, it seems like the songs go a bit faster than the original recordings).

    TV Tropes mentions that this episode shows that The Swedish Chef can rap in English (though TV Tropes notes that he sang in very accented English). Was he really singing the song in English? I can't really tell what he's saying when he sings, but the song is one that goes fast, and I'm not entirely sure what some of the English lyrics are.
     
  15. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Even if you don't see the lyrics anywhere (it might be a rights thing), it's pretty obvious it's karaoke. It's a bar, after all.
     
  16. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Maybe showing lyrics was a rights thing, but I still feel there should have been a visible screen (even if it's shot from behind) for them to look at.
     


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