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Your Thoughts: The Muppets Season 1 Episode 106 - The Ex-Factor

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, Nov 3, 2015.


What did you think of "The Muppets" episode "The Ex-Factor"?

  1. Absolutely positively! This episode was great!

  2. Bork bork! This episode was good.

  3. Mee mee. This episode was so-so

  4. You're all weirdos! This episode was disappointing.

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  1. ploobis

    ploobis Well-Known Member

    I've been use to Matt's :sing: for a long time. Besides, it was Jerry Nelson's choice to cast Matt Vogel for his characters.
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  2. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Few extra notes:

    - I hated, HATED last weeks episode with Reece Witherspoon. Everything about that episode felt off. But...this episode more than made up for it

    - Loved the Piggy fixing Kermit's scrunchy "Squishy" face. It's such a meta fan service, since for decades he's had the 'sheesh' face but noone's addressed it.
    I feel the show is evolving, getting deeper in its exploration. The Muppets seem more real than ever. And I think that is amazing. the Muppets had more 'heart', silly song and dance in the past...but they feel more three dimensional in depth here. Yes the show is mostly about relationships, but I think it makes sense.

    - Anyone else now in Team Denise? Again like everyone, I was taken aback by the leaked press photos of Denise. Now I can't get enough of her screentime. LOVE everything about Denise.

    - Can we PLEASE petition Funko or Disney to make Carl and Behem...err I mean "Gene" toys and plushes? Ok Carl has been MIA for a couple episodes now

    - Was I the only one that knew when Scooter and a "date" was brought up, it wasn't going to be a girl in the traditional sense? Of course I couldn't have guessed the "date" was going to be his mom:)

    - I freaking LOVE Chip. Man I love the weird moments with Chip.

    Im a bit worried of the Kushnell exit over creative differences, but hoping Disney and Muppet Studios can pull it together for a strong episode showing with this season. Yeah 16 episodes is a bit weird since its usually 22, but better than a measley 13! Ill sigh relief when a season 2 is announced

    Let's all relax and stay positive that they will work out issues and flow problems
    and make the next cant miss tv show in the publics mind
  3. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Hey! I'll have you know 13 is a perfectly good number of episodes for a TV show season. Don't malign my 13 or I'll send Uncle Deadly to help "make things disappear". :scary:

    *Grumbles over missing this episode.
  4. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

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  5. Daffyfan4ever

    Daffyfan4ever Well-Known Member

    Yeah. That's what I was thinking. I know we mentioned in the last thread that Kermit is okay without Piggy, but now I'm thinking that maybe he does miss her and he just sort of dates Denise to fill the void.
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  6. Ladywarrior

    Ladywarrior Well-Known Member

    Uncle deadly still needs his own plot! I wanna see what the evil english accented ghost dragon does outside of work. Come on guys, MAKE IT HAPPEN!
  7. Randall Flagg

    Randall Flagg Well-Known Member

    To be fair, she's very well known here in the U.S. If you're from somewhere else, though, I'm not sure her fame has spread overseas.
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  8. Ladywarrior

    Ladywarrior Well-Known Member

    I live in the US and have NO idea who she is aside from her sounding like a chipette.
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  9. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Guys, dosen't anyone remember Kristen Chenoweth played Ms.Noodle on Elmo's World. And you may also remember her on the ABC series Pushing Daisies.
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  10. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    She's a Broadway performer, she was in Wicked.
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  11. Ladywarrior

    Ladywarrior Well-Known Member

    I don't watch elmo's world or pushing daisies and I haven't seen wicked. so... XD
  12. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    I first knew about her from the soundtrack of the revival of You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown. Then later I saw interviews with her for Wicked.
  13. Reevz1977

    Reevz1977 Well-Known Member

    This weeks episode was kind of so-so for me. I did laugh at Deadly who has become my favourite breakout character of the show and the increasingly fleshed-out Scooter raised the odd smirk or two.

    One thing, other than my huge problems with Fozzie, that really bothers me is the new chatty Animal - where has the monosyllabic character I used to adore gone?? He is one character that does NOT require fleshing out and any development at all is detrimental to his character - he really doesn't need it. I really, really hate his full sentences and new found intelligence(??), it's just not Animal!!

    The rumour of a potential reboot to the series is kind of welcome news... to me at least. Though the show appears to have gained traction, I am still not enamoured with it and struggle to see who the show is actually aimed at - some of the humour is just way off the mark to the point of being dumb. Obviously fans of the Muppets with tune in, we've had a lot of up's and down's with Muppet productions over the years (the low point is unquestionably Studio DC!!) and this is far from being a bad show. I just wish it was way better!

    I know it's a pipe dream, but can Disney not just consult Frank Oz?? I think his input, into characters he helped create(!!), could be the thing that lifts this show and brings the Muppets back to their former glory. I know there is going to be the inevitable "Frank Oz has moved on and no longer wants anything to do with the Muppets!!" response to this post, but he has seemed to mellow over the years and has even publicly said that he hasn't been asked, in an almost disappointed manner. Could it hurt to ask?? To a (massively) lesser degree, I was once cut out of the development of characters I created. At first, I was very bitter and hurt from not being involved and said I wanted nothing to do with it when I was approached as it started to take off. I then saw my creation go off-character and, in the end, got back involved. When you create something, you can never totally detach yourself from it, regardless of what you may think.

    On one last note, if theres anyone from Disney reading this, if you want to just make this one fan happy - give me "The Pepe Show"!! I love that lil guy!!
  14. liberty

    liberty New Member

    I have mixed feelings about this show. First, it's the Muppets. I love love love the character interactions, love the celebrity interactions, and I love the concept of backstage at Piggy's late night show, which reminds me of the Fantastic Miss Piggy Show. I remember thinking, back in 1982, "Yes! Why isn't a weekly show?" and immediately cringing at the thought of weekly dance productions.

    What makes me cringe on this version of the Muppets is the pacing. I think the side-bar interviews are fine, but the homage to The Office seems, at times, to overwhelm the show. Muppet shows rarely have had dead air, and scenes like Fozzy meeting his girlfriend's parents with long, awkward pauses don't seem to mesh. It seems that if they want to do a Muppets version of the reality show format, that they should, you know, Muppet it up a bit.

    Full disclosure: I really miss Andy and Randy. Their being Piggy's nephews on MT was the perfect punchline to my favorite MCT tale:

    Piggy: "Wait. Think. Christmas is in December. And this is the middle of summer."
    Randy and Andy: "He's EARLY!"He's EARLY! Santa's early!"
    Piggy: "They coulnd't be Moi's brothers."
  15. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Agreed, I think the writers don't seem to understand the power of simplicity.

    This is really all anyone needs to say.

    Very, very true. I imagine it must be hard to sit back and watch that happen.
  16. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Yes exactly, the backstage/late night show format is fine. I hope they understand that isn't the problem in theory.
  17. Blue Frackle

    Blue Frackle Well-Known Member

    Yes. The issue with the show is not that it's adult humor, but that it's toilet humor.

    How can a conversation be like a van?

    Okay, I know what you're saying.

    They should keep the same concept but just make it more Muppety and less human-like.

    I know. It was just total bleh.

    I know. It is hard to put into words, but I know exactly what your talking about. Like in the past, they may have been afraid to explore :cool: for instance, and he felt untouchable or something, but now they're going all out with him. It would be like if they filmed The Muppet Show in HD.
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  18. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    See, I wouldn't call what Jerry Juhl and Jim Henson did in the past "afraid to explore." They simply knew what these characters were and weren't. That takes a writer's discipline and insight.

    Nothing this show is doing is fixing or improving on anything. Just because they made a choice doesn't mean it can be assumed that that must be what the Muppets needed (not saying you're doing that).
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2015
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  19. Blue Frackle

    Blue Frackle Well-Known Member

    You're right; bad choice of words on my part, but I don't know the words for what I'm trying to say, but I think you explained it perfectly.
  20. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say your wording was bad. I'm the one who always struggles to explain myself, believe me, lol. I've just been frustrated. Not every board is as civil toward disagreement as this one. A lot of boards, it's like you're constantly trying to avoid encountering little mind fields of a lifetime of bitter resentment, lol.
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