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Your Thoughts: The Muppets Season 1 Episode 16 - Because...Love

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, Mar 1, 2016.


What did you think of "The Muppets" episode "Because...Love"?

  1. Absolutely positively! This episode was great!

  2. Bork bork! This episode was good.

  3. Mee mee. This episode was so-so.

  4. You're all weirdos! This episode was disappointing.

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  1. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Each of those shows you mentioned are audience sitcoms, not laugh track sitcoms ( though they may employ additional laughter from a laugh track for sweetneing, or maintain continuity).
    There really aren't good characters anymore these days, which is one of the points I've made in the past, and this is a common complaint about TV today, is that most characters on TV today are unlikeable jerks who care nothing about what conflicts they may cause or who they may wrong . . . and that was even a complaint about this show for a while, that the characters were "too mean." The networks are even admitting right now they want another Archie Bunker on TV.
    That's because sitcoms in the past were well-written: as outlandish and silly as many of them may have been, they were at least solid and had entertaining stories with engaging situations that were genuinely funny . . . writers today always go for the lowest common denominator when it comes to humor because they just want to get as many quick, cheap laughs as possible, hence why we see a lot of lowbrow, juvenile, toilet humor on TV and in movies today. In fact, TV critics often SEINFELD as being the last truly well-written show TV ever saw; I can agree with that - I've seen very little on TV since with structured storytelling and engaging characters, with the possible exception of EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND.
  2. Daffyfan4ever

    Daffyfan4ever Well-Known Member

    Yeah. I caught Old Tom or was it Real Old Tom? I get those two mixed up. I know it wasn't Dead Tom. Lol.
  3. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    It was Old Tom,the one with the beard.
  4. KermieBaby47

    KermieBaby47 Well-Known Member

    Watching this episode now, can't wait to read this thread through when I'm done. High expectations, cuz episode 15 was fanTASTIC!!! :D
  5. KermieBaby47

    KermieBaby47 Well-Known Member

    OH MY GOSH!!! :excited: So SO good!! Pizza's exit due to everything with Rizzo & Co. was cool, hopefully the network president will be happy with what Kermit decided to do and return full control (for FUTURE shows, please ABC?!?). Loved seeing Old Tom, Link, Marvin Suggs & the Muppaphones, and Mahna Mahna & Snowths!! :flirt: So cool.

    I put a tweet out after watching the first episode, now back to Twitter for another, including #RenewTheMuppets yet again, because, Love. :rolleyes:
  6. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    That's basically what the Seinfeld characters were, love the show, but they cared nothing about others and if what they were doing was wrong.
  7. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    True, but each of them had their own neurotic quirks that still made them funny and arguably endearing - there's less emphasis put on that aspect of characters today; there are what they call jerks with hearts of gold, then there are jerks with hearts of jerks, the latter of which seems to be the go-to type of character today.
  8. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    This isn't a jab at you at all,I was just curious. Have you seen "Doctor Who" ?
    The characters on that show are surprisingly well rounded and the show is extremely creative. You may like it. And i'm talking about the new episodes(2005-present) not the old ones.
  9. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    God reading half these posts makes me realize why I hardly come here anymore. Just the same people bickering. Kermit & Piggy's relationship has advanced more then this place. All I'm gonna say is is I like the BBT and I don't care what anyone else says and two "he jumped out of the ding dang window.":shifty:
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  10. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    So you basically want a Muppets Most Wanted TV show. :p
  11. goldenstate5

    goldenstate5 Well-Known Member

    All of this I could not disagree with more. Mockumentary shows can, and have been great. I absolutely love the style.

    I feel like it just doesn't work with the characters of the Muppets. At all. I want to clear that up.
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  12. BlakeConor14

    BlakeConor14 Well-Known Member

    If the Muppets do get a 2nd season I really want to see Johnny fiama and sal, dr phil van neuter and seymour
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  13. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I want to challenge you on something. I want you to try and take all your knowledge and vision and feelings you have for modern TV shows, and completely ignore them. Then watch all 16 episodes strictly as A Mupet fan. Try and enjoy the simple fact that these characters whom you and so many others have grown to love, are back on TV for the first thing in decades. Because even if the format or the writers or even the shows runner are of the Modern TV age. This is still the Muppets, and with some very rare times they are who they have been for years.
    Now if you do this will you like every show? No nut I guarantee you will have enjoyed seeing the Muppets Just like Pepe said" Just Muppet".
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  14. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    I feel sorry for the ones who aren't able to say anything positive. Your life must be really sad is all I have to say and I don't mean just about The Muppets it's been the same grumpy people here who obviously will never change.
    Last edited: Mar 3, 2016
  15. Lourenzo

    Lourenzo Member

    Please comments like that only cause trouble. And be tolerant of other's opinions
  16. MelissaY1

    MelissaY1 Well-Known Member

    I've really loved this first season, and people who know me personally or at least well online for a long time know that I have not been a huge fan of a lot of stuff they've done since Jim's passing. But I thought this series was very well done from out of the gate, and I think if it gets a second season, it has a lot of potential to continue moving forward in a positive direction. I thought the season finale was excellent, lot of laughs, familiar characters we haven't seen in awhile (Marvin Suggs?? One of my favorites), old skits (Vet's Hospital and Muppet Labs, AWESOME!) I think this show had what we've been missing in the last two films: more heart, more friendship/inter-character chemistry, more growth for the characters than we've been seeing and lots of Muppet wackiness (Big Mean Carl eating Foo Foo, come on!)

    I think the biggest challenges the show faces going forward is let's face it, the whole TV viewing platform is different now from the kinds of shows to people watching on DVR or on demand, to people thinking this was going to be a cutesy kids show, etc. I also think ABC/Disney has to do better with promotion of them as a show and as a franchise. I know they have Marvel, Star Wars and other stuff they own, but Muppets are important too, and if promoted/marketed the same way can bring in the kind of ratings and money they want for this. But they have to give it a fair shot. I've been very happy with this series, personally and I hope enough people agree to help make it continue
  17. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    No offense but this has nothing to do with differences of opinions. I've been here since 2012 and there's been a lot of issues here which is why a lot of people have left. At least most of the ones I used to talk to. I hardly come on here anymore for this reason. The members in question know who they are. I held my tounge a lot on here because I didn't wanna get banned but you know what? I could care less now! I won't lose sleep over it. I'm not saying everyone has to be hunky dory all the time on here but good grief :) it's the same people over, and over again. I'm so glad the ones I have managed to stay in touch with I don't need this page to talk to them on. Have a nice day.
  18. JimAndFrank

    JimAndFrank Well-Known Member

    Hear hear!
    I generally just post my little review for the show or post updates about things and then clear off. It's really not worth the effort arguing.
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  19. Mad Monty fan

    Mad Monty fan Well-Known Member

    I wonder if we'll also ever see the Muppet Hobos appear soon.
  20. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Here is the thing. I don't care about the format who writes or even directs the show. The Muppets are on TV. Witch as a fan makes me very happy. It also means that as a fan I want to see the Muppets do well in whatever they do. So every week I have watched the new show most of them two or three times a week.
    I was listening to "Let's Talk Muppets" the other day and Steve Swanson was comparing this first season to season one of the Muppet Show. He brought up a lot of great points about the growing pains that shows go through. The last three shows where pure awesome and I think that if some of the nay saying fans would start with the last three shows and go backwards you will love this show.

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