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Zoe Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Sesame Street' started by wockawocka, Jan 5, 2003.

  1. wockawocka

    wockawocka New Member

    What do you like or dislike about the young muppet girl Zoe? I really don't like her. I think she is too girly and quite stupid. She doesn't seem to be a good influence for kidsand she's not always fun either. A lot of the skits with her are just too babyish or boring to me. There is one thing I do like about her though (even though i really dislike her), she is full of life (which isn't always good for her) and she is up for almost anything. Well, what do you all think about Zoe, and, should SS kept her (at least for now)?
  2. punkNpuppets

    punkNpuppets New Member

    I like Zoe. i mean, shes a muppet and i like all muppets. even Zoe!
  3. FellowWLover

    FellowWLover Member

    Zoe is my daughter's favorite Muppet at the moment.

    Ever see the episode where Mrs. Chicken mistakes Zoe's pet rock, Rocko, for an egg?

    Good stuff.
  4. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Zoe is one of my favorites next to Telly. LOVE the colors, vibrancy, chemistry with other characters. And we dont have enough girl characters...Prairie Dawn/Anne? How generic can you get?

    I really love the more modern face of Sesame...even Elmo is cool when hes working with others. I think peopl eget annoyed by Elmo, is because you seem him doing his own solo schtick a lot.
    But yes, love Telly, Zoe, Rosita, Honkers, Martians, etc...so colorful!
  5. SillyRed

    SillyRed Member

    That was funny, a chicken mistaking a rock for an egg!!
  6. roadrat15

    roadrat15 New Member

    The only thing that really irritates me about Zoe is that high pitched giggle and that "Stop joking me!"
  7. MuppetQuilter

    MuppetQuilter Member

    Zoe, like Elmo, is younger than most of the other Muppets-- several years younger than Big Bird and Grover. That may be why some people find her babyish. Of course the show's audience is younger than it is used to be, so it only makes sense to have younger Muppets who are at the same developlmental stages as a large portion of the audience. Personally, I think she's great. She's more independent than Elmo. She has a very strong sense of self. She has a great imagination. And Sesame Street was long over-do for some main-character girl monsters. It's about time girls got some muppets with which they can identify.
  8. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Agreed. I'm not even sure if that many parents are watching like they used to. Maybe it is the post Elmo world that has fanned off older viewership(and by older, I mean older than 5)

    Youre right...Zoe does seem vastly more independent than Elmo, and has a much stronger since of imagination and creativity.
    Elmo just likes to 'not understand' a lot of the times. Not to bag on Elmo, as he has gotten enough bagging to last a lifetime...but I consider Zoe one of the top players on the street next to Telly. I really wish all Muppet fans(even the strictly TMS crowd) could be afforded the chance to include a little Telly and Zoe into their Muppet intake now and then.

    AND YES! There need to be more girl Muppets/role models.
    I firmly believe the global Muppet fanbase is perhaps split even, maybe even 55% or more female...yet it is not reflected at all with the characters. I fo rone would love to see more strong female characters and less embarassing Spamela Hamderson nonsense which does nothing for anyone.
  9. MuppetQuilter

    MuppetQuilter Member

  10. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Though I am not such a big fan of Zoe (I like Rosita better), I am starting to be won over by her. It's more gradual than my similar problems with Elmo, now I accept the little red guy. Though I must admit, Zoe is not one of my favorites, I think Fran Brill does an excellent job with her, and you can tell she's haveing a lot of fun.
    It's just weird, cause few Muppet girls are plied by woman performers. Look at Piggy and post first season Janice for example. But even so, I cannot really picture them being plaied by women, because the men do a much funnier characturization of them. Basically, the only female Muppets plaied by females I can think of are Red, Mokey, Zoe, Prarie Dawn, and a few others who escape me...

    But I still agree we should have strong female characters here. Though I wish they'd bring back Grundgetta...
  11. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Oh gosh yes, we need Grundgetta back! She rocked...Oscar must be lonely. We at least he has that endless trash can...it might even lead to a fraggle hole!(Darn you EMTV! Whyd you have to mess up the Sesame/JHC thing...now we might never get another Sesame/Muppet/Fraggle crossover like MFC and TMTM!)

    And Annika, OMG youa re so right. Kids, while much much smarter and intelligent these days, grow up to fast.

    I was watching Sesame til 1989(the last great era of everything Muppet related) when I was 11...sucks to hear the average age is going down for viewership.
  12. wockawocka

    wockawocka New Member

    Isn't Zoe 4? Big Bird is only 6, so that's not several years younger. I don't know what you all think, but personally, I think that all the older SS episodes were better. They may have a larger variety of muppets on SS now, but they had more muppets that were main in the older episodes. It's nice that they have more female muppets, but I think that Zoe is a disgrace to female all over the world. There is like no normal female muppet (except maybe Miss Piggy)!
  13. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    But that is good right? Who wants normal...this is the Muppets! hehe
  14. punkNpuppets

    punkNpuppets New Member

    Then there was Deena Monster...a complete retard....but what about Ruby? i just saw a pic of her and i have no clue who she is!
  15. dcfboss

    dcfboss New Member

    there's aint nothing wrong with zoe....i didn't like her at first. i tend to be partial to the older muppets. but i've grown to un-hate her....even rosita to some extent. there's nothing really annoying about her. some skits she was in are pretty funny.....like when she was sitting in Hooper's and Alan wanted to know if she had a ballet class cuz she had a tutu on and she said "no" lol. i almost died.

    but if u make a list of the annoying muppets, she's not even near the top of mine....now elmo, and baby bear....well that's another story, lol
  16. FellowWLover

    FellowWLover Member

    Alan is really funny with the Muppets on SS. He is a classic.
  17. Daffyfan4ever

    Daffyfan4ever Well-Known Member


    I never met him. Lol. I should watch the show more often to catch up. He's running Hooper's Store now, right? Whatever happened to Mr. Hanford?
  18. Boober_Gorg

    Boober_Gorg Active Member

    She was a yellow monster who appeared regularly on the Street during the 1991-1992 season I think. The one episode that comes to mind is the one where the payphone at Hooper's goes out of order, and they're trying to get it fixed. Ruby suggests putting up a sign that says "This telephone is fixed", which doesn't work, especially since it drives away the phone repair man.
  19. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Who's the monster female in "Guys and Dolls?" Was SHE Ruby?

    I personally dislike Googoo and Phoeobe from Monster Clubhouse. I can stand Mel and Narf, but those two are the reason I cannot STAND Monster Clubhouse!
  20. Manda:-D

    Manda:-D New Member

    I LIKE Zoe! But then, she's girly, kinda flirty, (well, for a little girl), and very exuberant, so I guess she reminds me one of my best friends.....I actually find Merl rather amusing, (but, I like Muppet Mosters who speak gibberish), but I think they changed his hair, and I don't like his new hair.....I like Rosita better than Zoe, though, cuz Rosita's more mature....(AND she's bi-lingual!!! Bi-lingual Muppets are ALWAYS fun!!!!!) :D

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