And America Continues to Show it's True Colors. . .

LittleJerry92

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This picture still gives me a good laugh.

(It's even funnier since Billy West read stuff from Donald Trump in his Zap Brannigan voice).
 

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This tax plan is ridiculous and only going to make things worse for so many Americans. No mater what the GOP believes, there's a startling truth of what's going to happen in decades to come. We'll all be senior citizens or dead by this time, but because of automation and overseas factories, the US economy will definitely have to run on much more than democratic socialism. No matter what we do, ultimately the government is going to have to give the middle and lower classes a periodic stipend, like we do with EBT cards, so that people can buy the products and services that rich corporations manufacture for pennies on the dollar in China and sell to the public. The upper class is screwing the little guy so much that there will no longer be enough consumers who can afford their products. There are many things we can start doing now to help build a better, new economy. Y'all know I'm far from cynical. It's just that I don't see how this has an easy fix or any other fix that I mentioned. Not only are jobs not really coming back, we're going to lose so many due to automation in the future. Scary place, the future. I still want my flying car.
 

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Yeah, I mean, there's still gay people who are just as easily religious.
 

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True, but unfortunately, the religious right feels that's not possible.

Tell me what you think of this, @jvcarroll: I had a discussion with a pastor once about gay Christians. Of course, he kept saying that gays are going to ****, gays are going to ****, blah-blah-blah. I'm sure you know growing up in a conservative Christian household that we're told that if we accept Jesus Christ as our personal Lord and Savior, that's how you become a Christian, and the blood of Jesus is what gets us into Heaven, right? So I asked this pastor, point blank, that what he's saying is that even if gay people actually accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior and become Christians, they still can't get into Heaven? His response? "Not if they repent." So, in other words, even if a gay person is a Christian, they can't get into Heaven, because not repenting of their homosexuality is willfully living in sin, which means they can't get into Heaven - even if they've accepted Jesus.

I can totally understand, from this mindset, why you choose not to be a Christian - it makes me feel bad about that, but I still understand your feelings about it completely; I can even see why this kind of talk would drive people away from religion altogether - if I hadn't been brought up in Christianity as I was and hadn't thought to seek religion out, I'd probably feel the same way. From what I understand, God's love is supposed to be unconditional for all mankind, and everyone has the chance to accept Jesus if they choose to . . . but then you've got the right implying that there actually are conditions, which completely goes against what I've been brought up with knowing.
 

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This tax plan is ridiculous and only going to make things worse for so many Americans. No mater what the GOP believes, there's a startling truth of what's going to happen in decades to come. We'll all be senior citizens or dead by this time, but because of automation and overseas factories, the US economy will definitely have to run on much more than democratic socialism. No matter what we do, ultimately the government is going to have to give the middle and lower classes a periodic stipend, like we do with EBT cards, so that people can buy the products and services that rich corporations manufacture for pennies on the dollar in China and sell to the public. The upper class is screwing the little guy so much that there will no longer be enough consumers who can afford their products. There are many things we can start doing now to help build a better, new economy. Y'all know I'm far from cynical. It's just that I don't see how this has an easy fix or any other fix that I mentioned. Not only are jobs not really coming back, we're going to lose so many due to automation in the future. Scary place, the future. I still want my flying car.
I still want my jet pack.
But yeah, neither Trump or Hillary are/were immune to pandering to the upper 1%. The elite million or so people who make seven figures and who can bargain and lobby to cut up the pie a little finer among themselves.
The other 99%? Best of luck to ya!
 
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True, but unfortunately, the religious right feels that's not possible.

Tell me what you think of this, @jvcarroll: I had a discussion with a pastor once about gay Christians. Of course, he kept saying that gays are going to ****, gays are going to ****, blah-blah-blah. I'm sure you know growing up in a conservative Christian household that we're told that if we accept Jesus Christ as our personal Lord and Savior, that's how you become a Christian, and the blood of Jesus is what gets us into Heaven, right? So I asked this pastor, point blank, that what he's saying is that even if gay people actually accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior and become Christians, they still can't get into Heaven? His response? "Not if they repent." So, in other words, even if a gay person is a Christian, they can't get into Heaven, because not repenting of their homosexuality is willfully living in sin, which means they can't get into Heaven - even if they've accepted Jesus.

I can totally understand, from this mindset, why you choose not to be a Christian - it makes me feel bad about that, but I still understand your feelings about it completely; I can even see why this kind of talk would drive people away from religion altogether - if I hadn't been brought up in Christianity as I was and hadn't thought to seek religion out, I'd probably feel the same way. From what I understand, God's love is supposed to be unconditional for all mankind, and everyone has the chance to accept Jesus if they choose to . . . but then you've got the right implying that there actually are conditions, which completely goes against what I've been brought up with knowing.
I personally don't believe that gay/bisexual people are sinners.
 
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