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Anyone worried about the next generation?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by miss kermie, Apr 4, 2012.

  1. miss kermie

    miss kermie Well-Known Member

    I woke up to a few children's shows yesterday, and I realized, that, while Muppets are clearly not real, cartoons can teach kids irrelivant things. Do you think that this will effect their life?
  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Why do I have a feeling that this is going to turn into "I don't like cartoons that aren't to my taste and not made for me specifically" thread?

    Still, I can't give enough credit to Wow Wow Wubzy and Curious George. Even though Wubzy is long since canceled... they prove you can have a show for preschoolers that isn't a show for morons. We need more of that and less Super Why.
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  3. newsmanfan

    newsmanfan Well-Known Member

    This isn't new. Has been for decades. Wasn't it in the 80s when a slew of shows designed solely to get kids to buy action figures and sweet cereals pandered to an already-becoming-spoiled Me Generation?

    Not just cartoons, since kids of all ages these days are exposed to so much more everyday..."news" soundbites, a narcissistic culture of look-at-me-I'm-tweeting-what-I-stole-from-Walgreens, junk music advertising soulless sex and violence, junk shows and books and games doing the same... While any one of these wouldn't be awful as an influence on its own, perhaps, the cumulative effect -- especially when a child doesn't have parents teaching them things to balance that self-absorbed worldview -- is deadly.

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  4. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I've been saying this for years.

    Look at what kids are doing today:
    - Doing drugs and getting high
    - Having unprotected sex and dropping babies
    - Joining gangs and causing chaos
    - Running around looting stores
    - Shooting or stabbing people for the heck of it

    And THESE are the hands that the future of our society are in, and society today is already corrupted as it is.
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  5. newsmanfan

    newsmanfan Well-Known Member

    "Those dagnabbit teenagers, runnin around all hopped up on goofballs!"

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  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    You know this stuff's been going down for decades, right? We've been in the hands of that generation since before we were born. That stuff ran absolutely rampant in the 50's. They try to sugar coat it with malt shop memories.

    You know that's the generation WE technically are in, right? The only thing that bugs me about the coming generations is the instant gratification culture we got off of the internet making everything too easy.

    On the contrary... people are getting far more tolerant, basically not caring about differences. When a bunch of narrow minded "moms" started calling out Archie for having a gay character marry (essentially making the characters... well... relevant), more people came out in favor of Archie's decision, the character went from cult hero to mainstream hero, and the comics sold the heck out. That's a sign of positive change.

    It's the other generations I'm worried about... specifically the completely entitled you know whats that were mostly born in the 60's and 70's.
  7. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I dunno, my mother's a child of the 50s, and she says life back then essentially was pretty much exactly as depicted on Leave it to Beaver.
  8. newsmanfan

    newsmanfan Well-Known Member

    Er...um...that would be me. Though I hope my hippie parents raised me better.
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  9. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    I thought about adding one of my infamous rants about download only, but I won't.

    I dunno. I believe it only seems like this because its all over the news and such. For every bad apple there's thousands of people who are normal. If there's one thing I learned in Journalism, its that the news like horrific things.
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  10. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    That is, of course, a bold face lie. The only difference was that they did a lot better hiding that from plain view than we do now because... well... Floyd got it right.

    Precisely. The brilliant episode of South Park "Major Boobage" said it best. The media likes to make it look like every single kid does something rotten based on the actions of a few in a small town of bored white kids. Our lame 24 hour news cycle culture knows we'll only tune in if they blatantly exploit a story and exaggerate everything with scary graphics and music. I swear I read a study that Teen pregnancy went down. But it's everything... supposed drug use, the obesity "epidemic" (their fun little term that makes it sound like everyone's 500 pounds)... It's sensationalism... and if you fall for it... well, you become Commercial Free Childhood. I said it.
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  11. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Well my parents don't quite have the same memories. Though they watched Leave it to Beaver...nice fantasy. ;)

    And if you were a child of course you'll occasionally remember it as much better than it actually was. I think the '80s were a wonderful time but that's because I was too young to know about AIDS and the Cold War.
  12. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    It really seems those cartoons from the 80's we remember so well were so full of sugar coated or action packed fantasy, so the young ones wouldn't know about the crap that went on during that era. I WISH Contra was only a video game about aliens. Not saying anything else.

    Crap was always going on. I absolutely hate the 1950's myth. Crybaby is a LOT more realistic than Leave it to Beaver. We have to remember that was an era where racism, forced conformity, and the Red Scare ran rampant. It's hardly the paradise everyone claims it to be. And here's the thing... every generation lives in fear of the younger generation. But for the most part, the worst behaved of the bunch just blend into the crowd when they're older, lamenting their age, they deny the younger generation the same exact trouble they got into. And not out of experience.

    Yet, if it wasn't for future generations evolving, we'd still have 1950's levels of racism and conformity. Now, I do think that telling kids that their dreams will all come true is setting themselves up for a HUGE disappointment, but that's only out of experience. But no one wants to tell kids the truth.
  13. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    This thread's reminding me of Pleasantville.
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  14. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    Those dang little whipper-snappers. *shakes a cane at them* GET OFFA MAH LAWN!
    I think the problem isn't that the next gen is self-absorbed, but that their parents' generation (mine?) and OUR parents' generation were insanely self-absorbed.
    Except reality says life was never the Leave It to Beaver type, anyway.
    I'm glad I grew up during the emergence of the Information Superhighway. I'm old enough to remember how to live without high-end electronics but I'm not so old I stare dumbfounded at an email, either. :)
    My mom thinks that too. She is also delusional, as she herself told stories of the separate bathrooms/water fountains, the beatings, etc. My maternal grandfather is a hardcore conservative, and even HE isn't as hardcore as he used to be when I was a kid. He even made peace with his gay brother. I think I saw snowflakes in Satan's backyard, though it was good because soon after the brother passed away. He's still uncomfortable with the idea, but he no longer goes on and on about how evil it is.
    People romanticize the era in which they grew up as a direct result of losing out in the current generation. They can't stand the new-fangled flippity-flop stuff, so they imagine a happier time which never really existed. I liked the 80s, but I'm not dumb enough to go back there.
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  15. miss kermie

    miss kermie Well-Known Member

    What's the cold war?
  16. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    A time of great tension. There wasn't really a "war" in the typical sense. It was more of the threat of WWIII. We fund out other nations had nuclear missiles aimed at us, the US and Russia's race to see who could get the better spacecraft into space, fear of communism in the US. I just gave you the reader's digest version...its a bit more complicated than that. If you are really curious try http://www.history.com/topics/cold-war
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  17. miss kermie

    miss kermie Well-Known Member

    Ok. Thanks Sarge.
  18. mo

    mo Well-Known Member

    wait a second is this just me or does this sound like ben rants? It's a youtube user who rants about the media I am addicted to it!

    it's ok to be addicted to something as long if it's not drugs cigarettes or alcahol
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  19. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    In some cases probably, but mainly to sell toys, lol. However I would also argue that cartoons in the '80s often actually had a darker streak that cartoons just don't have the brains for today.
  20. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Thanks for that Sarge. :)

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