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Behind the Scenes of "The Muppet Movie"

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by Was Once Ernie, Jun 24, 2005.

  1. That Announcer

    That Announcer Well-Known Member

    I'm just reading all of this now, and I'm really amazed! You not only remember everything in complete and total detail, but you make it into a really great story. I can't wait for Part 3!

  2. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    do/ did you get residuals for your performance in that scene, or did you only get paid for performing the first time?
  3. Was Once Ernie

    Was Once Ernie Well-Known Member

    I only got paid for performing the first time since we didn't speak. It was a pre-recorded track.

    Which reminds me of another off-topic story...

    I was at the Sesame Street taping of "Beat the Time" with Grover and they did the entire bit to a pre-recorded track. This surprised me as it was all dialogue, but Jim told me that Guy Smiley was so rough on his throat from all the screaming, that it had to be pre-recorded so they could do multiple takes. The problem with that is, trying to lip-sync to a pre-recorded dialogue track took them many, many takes to get right. There's still at least one or two places in the finished bit where you can see the mouth movements are off, especially on Grover.

  4. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Wow. That's very cool to know that Guy Smilie was rough on Jim's voice. I can believe it, but it sure is good to know the Muppeteers get sore throats from vocies too, not just I.
  5. Erine81981

    Erine81981 Well-Known Member

    Oh this is one awsome thread to have on here at Muppet Central. Can't wait for more to hear from our online shorse. (sorry for the spelling) I've always loved Grover. He would be pretty cool to preforme. Did you ever get to?
  6. Kimp the Shrimp

    Kimp the Shrimp Well-Known Member

    i guess it was the yelling of guy smiley?
  7. Vic Romano

    Vic Romano Well-Known Member

    This is fascinating, I love reading your posts WOE and can't wait 'til your next post. What I'm curious about now (and maybe this is for a different thread), is more about you. Were you around a lot after TMM? Did Jim let you in on any other projects even if it was just to visit the set? Were you able to attend his funeral? And what do you think of the Muppets and the direction they're headed in now since Jim died? Keep these great little tid bit side stories coming too please, they're great.
  8. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    If you watch Jerry Nelson's performances he pulls that off a LOT.

    Can't wait for Part 3!!
  9. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    are there any deleted scenes from the muppet movie that you know about and can share with us? I have heard that there was a scene cut with statler and waldorf at the el sleezo cafe, and another scene with them cut where they appear on a camel.

    also, do you know if the audio for the entire guy smiley sketches were pre-recorded or if it was just guy smileys scenes?
  10. Whatever

    Whatever Well-Known Member

    I love hearing this stuff! Very interesting! Thanks for sharing!
  11. Was Once Ernie

    Was Once Ernie Well-Known Member

    It was the entire sketch, which is what made it so difficult to perform. You might also notice the clock having a little trouble keeping time and being at the right place when Guy keeps telling Grover how much time he has left. That's because it's just a person on a ladder behind the set turning it by hand.

  12. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Yey! More trivia! I'm loving it, I'm bathing in it, I'm....eeew, I got some on my clean leather suit. *flicks trivia back where it came from*

    Seriously, I Love this thread with a capital Love!
  13. That Announcer

    That Announcer Well-Known Member

    Question for WOE:

    You said earlier on that it was a pre-recorded track you guys were performing to. Now, did the Muppeteers themselves overdub massive amounts of tracks to create the final chorus, or was it just nameless people that came in to do the track?
  14. Was Once Ernie

    Was Once Ernie Well-Known Member

    I would think it was a chorus that was brought in to fill it out.

    I'm sorry I haven't written Part 3 of the story yet. I'm going out of town for the 4th and will get to it when I get back. Stay tuned!

  15. That Announcer

    That Announcer Well-Known Member

    Well, have fun! I too will be seeing the fireworks from my aunt's place in Vermont. This will be the first time I've ever been to a Fourth celebration, so I'm understandably excited!
  16. unclematt

    unclematt Well-Known Member

    My Sister is in Vermont for the fourth. I myself will be taking in the views in my sweet home Chicago. I love living 10 minutes away from th city.
  17. MuppetDanny

    MuppetDanny Well-Known Member

    I just found a picture of the closing scene of "TMM", I managed to spot one of the characters from "SNL"


    Hope it helps :)
  18. MuppetDanny

    MuppetDanny Well-Known Member

    can't awit :p
  19. Was Once Ernie

    Was Once Ernie Well-Known Member

    I stand corrected. Remember, it was over 25 years ago, plus, look how far away from them I was. They're way in the back corner.

    But what a great picture! Where did you find it?

    And while looking for that picture, I came across a different one:


    The bottom picture shows the rehearsal hall space with the floor numbered for the puppeteers to stand on. You can see us arriving with the puppets. The space where we shot the scene had a black floor and we had to just know who we were near to find our spots.

    The funny thing is, my memory is slightly fuzzy because I remember Grover being over my right shoulder and behind me, but he's clearly over my left shoulder and behind me.

    Tomorrow, Part 3!

    I promise!

  20. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    two kermits

    there was one scene in the movie where kermit was literally talking to himself in the dessert. for this scene, do you know whether there were two kermit puppets and jim henson dubbed the vice for one of them, or if the scene was matted (like if kermit was playing a dual role)?

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