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Disney Junior?

Discussion in 'Bear in the Big Blue House' started by beakerboy12, Jul 8, 2010.

  1. beakerboy12

    beakerboy12 Well-Known Member

    I read online a few weeks ago that Disney, who owns ABC and SoapNet, will replace SoapNet with a channel called Disney Junior, where they will show their Playhouse Disney programs on a seperate channel (technically Nick Jr. for Disney :rolleyes:)! Is it possible the classic Playhouse Disney programming (ex: Bear in the Big Blue House, PB&J Otter) will reair?:confused:

    BTW: Should this be in the General Discussion category? Feel free to move it if it needs to.;)
  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I wonder... is it SOOO hard for them to not replace a network and create another? I'm sure Soaps are no longer relevant, since they seem to want to get rid of them (where's dw when you need him? He's a lot more passionate about this stuff), but that's a dramatic change for a network.

    It would be epic fail for them NOT to try and put older stuff on that network, and Disney has been basically sitting on Bear since the buyout. Besides, they have like, what... 4 shows? They can't make an entire 24 hour a day channel on that alone (even though they basically pull that with their main station). And hey. Perfect place to reair Muppet Babies too, am I right?
  3. Gelfling Girl

    Gelfling Girl Active Member

    Good point. And also, it would be nice if they aired Johnny and the Sprites again. That was good while it lasted. Either way, I'll be on the lookout for this channel in the future.
  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Still... I'd much rather a Disney DISNEY channel that airs actual Disney programming that isn't for ANY specific focus group outside of their family programming. Think about it. A perfect place to put all their movies and old TV shows that Disney USED to air.
  5. APRena

    APRena New Member

    Do you mean the classic Disney films (Aladdin etc) or the mostly-horrible but older (from the 90s, maybe? I can barely remember when Disney wasn't 99% awful...) than what they currently show Disney Channel Original Movies?
  6. Gelfling Girl

    Gelfling Girl Active Member

    I agree. They still air some of the more recent but still technically "classic" to some (ex. Aladdin, Mulan, etc.) sometimes, but really not all that often. And I'm pretty sure my parents got rid of that old tape with Suzie Q (a really old-older than me, maybe-Disney Channel movie) recorded on it. :mad:

    And also, I want Recess back on the air. :( Sure, I guess not too many people watched and/or recorded it at three o'clock in the morning, but I sure was annoyed a few weeks ago to notice it was gone from the schedule.
  7. APRena

    APRena New Member

    Agreed. That was one of my favorite cartoons. (ABC's Saturday Morning circa 2001=awesome. Whatever happened to Pepper Ann?) I wonder why they rearranged it? They start showing the Playhouse Disney shows at 3 in the morning now. :rolleyes:
  8. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Basically Disney ANYTHING that isn't already on the other 2 channels. Classic movies, old TV shows... all that stuff. All the stuff The Disney Channel used to air in the 80's- early 00's. I mean, you have how many movies? And how many old TV shows from whenever to the 00's that AREN'T over aired on your other 2 stations?
  9. Gelfling Girl

    Gelfling Girl Active Member

    Yeah. Also, I'm not sure if they'd actually air it nowadays without redoing it with modern stars, but I really really really wanna see that Mickey Mouse Club show someday.
  10. APRena

    APRena New Member

    You mean the one our parents probably saw as kids or the Britney Spears revival? Does Disney own the 80s-90s Winnie the Pooh cartoon? I would be glued to this hypothetical channel if they aired that + stuff that's been mentioned.
  11. Gelfling Girl

    Gelfling Girl Active Member

    Preferably the older one, but either one would be fine.
  12. dwmckim

    dwmckim Well-Known Member

    Just coming to this thread now, but since it's been wondered, here's what i'm thinking about it.

    It sounded just bizarre when i thought about it. Disney does own both ABC and SoapNet. While news about the soap genre dieing and declining ratings is rampant, SoapNet's actually done well with its ratings increasing each quarter. Part of the reason daytime soaps' ratings have been going down is because a lot of people these days watch the shows at night on SoapNet. So the first part of this that's weird is that the station will be turned into something else. Some speculate it's because ABC plans to do away with its daytime soaps by aroung that time (which they deny) or that it's a way to get all the viewing of their shows focused back in one place and bringing the ABC airings' ratings back up.

    The second part of this that's weird is what's replacing it - a 24 hours pre-school age station. Now what pre-schooler would be watching during nighttime/overnight hours? It seems to be it would make much more sense to make it a split channel with the Disney Jr stuff during the day and the SoapNet stuff at night - both compliment the others well since it gets rid of the deadtime for both components when its unlikely there's much of an audience. Like how Nick had been the basic station and then Nick At Nite.

    Since this news has come out, ABC since announced that they would be trying something new with its daytime soaps where they were reducing the amount of new shows a year by 30 (which created a stir with the writers guild) and have more reairings of classic episodes. This news has received mixed reactions. I think it could be a great idea if done right. About a decade and a half ago there had been a miniseries during daytime called a Daytime to Remember where they showed each of the ABC soaps most fondly remembered episodes. If they did something like this, i think it would be marvelous, but it's more likely they won't delve back that far but rather only go back no further than six months as they usually do during holidays when they air a repeat. Plus the first example of this that's been announced was repeats of General Hosital focusing on a returning character - and it's going to be aired as a marathon block PRE-EMPTING the other two soaps. Just no! It's those kind of marathons that should be done on SoapNet while it still exists.

    But back to Disney Jr. Hopefully it will be a way to see some old faves that have been swallowed by Disney Channel's current format. But i still think the 24 hour idea is a disaster waiting to happen.
  13. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    Yes, the entire Bear in the Big Blue House series needs to see the light of day either as season DVD sets or a return to television. The show is fantastic and 99% of kids don't have any idea of who Bear is.

    :cry:
  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I think Season sets would be out of the question... among other reasons, preschool shows rarely get season set treatments. We would be more likely to have best ofs or at least rereleases of the Sony DVD's under Disney's label. The only thing that really disappoints me with Disney's current Muppet plans is that they're really doing nothing with Bear at this point.

    Well, as we all know, the niche market is dead. Long dead. And, while I'm not a fan of the genre of television, the fact that NO ONE is basically standing up and saying "We need to save the Soaps" (other than the fan base, and they're oft ignored) is beyond depressing. And frankly, I'm sick of the "We don't know where television stands in the age of computers" excuse. If TV producers had their way, it would be like the world where Kermit was never born... nothing but reality shows. And it's not even due to popularity in most cases, because it's sweatshop entertainment they can make cheap and quick.

    And as I've said hundreds of times, Cartoon Network doesn't want to air cartoons, TV Land doesn't want to air classic reruns, MTV doesn't want to air music television, none of the movie channels want to run movies, and all of the channels that should never run movies want to run movies. It's insane. No one's standing up for the niche saying, "We're never going to get the percentage of people happy with watching what they're watching, so let's just cater to our loyal viewers."

    I agree... a 24hr preschool channel does sound pretty iffy, especially since Disney has the smallest collection of preschool television out there. PBS can get away with it, since they have years of the stuff they can run. Nick Jr. too... but all I can see is the off chance House at Pooh Corner and Dumbo's Circus will be run at 3 Am for a month, and then we'll just see all day marathons of Handy Manny (that lackluster Bob the Builder knockoff).

    But as I said earlier, what happened with this digital cable revolution? I thought they were supposed to be able to broadcast multiple channels on a single wavelength or something, and no one's using it. Couldn't ABC just keep Soapnet and creatw Disney Jr. out of an entirely new channel? I wanna see the logistics behind not buying a new station and tearing down an old one. You'd think they could put that stuff on the Family Channel or something.
  15. McFraggle

    McFraggle Active Member

    I hope as well that they put Bear on Disney Junior.
  16. beakerboy12

    beakerboy12 Well-Known Member

    Thread Resurrection

    So, as the Disney Junior block is coming in 11 days. They've already planned new programs including Jake and the Neverland Pirates and a new computer animated Babar program. What're you're thoughts on the additions and what're your new ideas and opinions?

    For me, I like the cute idea for a Peter Pan-esque kiddie show. The other additions look new and creative. Before I go on, I'm not the person who usually gives critisism. But in my opinion, I sort of think it'll be a good kid-geared block/channel. They are bringing some of their Playhouse Disney songs along. Though, along with many other forums members, I definetely want them to bring back some old shows. This seems like a great venue for Bear! Just trying to find out what you think.

    -Beakerboy12
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'm still confused. So Disney Junior is going to be a programming block AND a new channel coming next year? Or are they planning to move the Disney Junior line up TO the other channel?

    Either way, a 24 hour preschool channel? I had this discussion about Sprout in another thread, but why do we need so many 24/7 preschool networks? I'm sure there are early morning feedings, but why would you need to keep the TV on for a baby who's likely not to know or care what's on the screen? Again, Disney has a LOT of classic movies and programming... I'm not even talking Disney Afternoon line ups. Before that. There NEEDS to be a block of classic Disney shorts, be they all different characters, or segregated by them. Especially if they plan on having the same few shows 24 hrs a day, each rerunning one that was on earlier.

    Now, any new idea would be cute, but I'm sure they'd follow the same Dora "Where's the red triangle?" model. It doesn't matter if we get a cool Peter Pan related series if all Jake does is sit around waiting for him to answer his own question. Same with Babar. I have to admit, I'm not a fan of his, but I can enjoy the 80's Nelvana series.

    If this has to be a 24/7 network, it needs Bear at the very least to fill up the network. I'd doubt they'd have late night reruns of Dumbo's Circus, or House at Pooh Corner, or even New Adventures of Winne the Pooh, even though those would be welcome.
  18. beakerboy12

    beakerboy12 Well-Known Member

    With Disney Junior it is going to be a proggramming block. But starting in early 2012 it is going to be a block and channel.

    24/7 preschool channels have been a fad, well since... Nick Jr. But in it's defense, the preschoolers only get 6 hours, usually, for Playhouse Disney and 6 hours of Nick Jr. Kids don't get that much TV time afterwards.

    And, again, Bear should be on Disney Junior!


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