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Do you think of Sesame Street as a real street?

Discussion in 'Classic Sesame Street' started by DTF, Jan 28, 2008.

  1. DTF

    DTF Member

    Mods, feel free to move this...I really had no clue which forum this worked best in...

    Hmmm, unless I'm missing it, there doesn't seem to be a way to poll (I could be, with my visiojn) but that's okay, it's an interesting thing to discuss. this is basically a poll for those who consider them as real characters when you watch. And the way most of you are about some like Elmo, it's clear you do. ;)

    When you think of lives behind the cameras, what they do off stage, how do you view Sesame Street? In other words, The Muppet Show was clearly a frog in charge of a production company, having to satisfy some stars (like Miss PIggy), etc.; in other words, the characters we saw were alive in theTMS Universe, there were things we didn't see (calling guests to get them on the show, etc.) but things we did. Time passed between shows - they didn't just appear out of thin air, go into cryogenic sleep, then wake up for the next one.

    1. If SS was like TMS, we wouldn't see the behind the scenes stuff on SS like on TMS but it would have to happen, as there would then be someone organizing the show, etc.; but BB, Elmo, and all the others just live lives away from the cameras otherwise.

    Best arguments - announcing letter, number of the day, and welcoming people, plus a triangle-lovers' club is one thing, but letters appearing out of the blue?

    This is probably the most likely, but there are other options.

    2. It may be a real street where the laws of physics state that letters can appear in the air, there's a triangle-lovers club, etc., and where humans and muppets interact. The humans age but the muppets don't, or very little. In other words, they aren't putting on a show - this is a real street where the characters live and are doing other things, but very little happens between episodes. When we see an episode, it's not acting - these things, in the SS universe, are happening to the people.

    Best arguments - the hurricane, and Mr. Hooper's death. Especially Mr. Hooper's death - if in the SS universe Big Bird is only a big bird who can act on a show, and wasn't touched by the death of such a close friend, then he is one of the best bird actors out there. Okay, he's the only bird actor out there, but you know what I mean. :D He could put on a human outfit and play Hamlet if he keeps improving. :) That makes me think it might be real characters living on a real street with altered laws of physics.

    (And, maybe it gives some of you fan fiction ideas - either one of the above.)

    3. Is it like a sitcom - not quite like a sitcom, where we only see 30 minutes of the characters' lives out of 168 hours a week. But, maybe like the old days, where we only saw 5 of 168 hours a week as far as what they do, where they go, etc., and we saw a lot of their lives back then, though not much now? For a good example of how a "realistic world in which a sitcom family lives" would be, check out http://howrude.org/show/chronology/ This is the tact that a few fanfiction writers seem to take. (The origins ones,the amnesia one, and probably others.)

    Or, do you have some other idea?
  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Heh. Funny you should mention that. I can't remember where it was (I know it's somewhere in between Wakefield and Peabody MA because I saw it en route to somewhere) but I did see a street that just so Happens to be a Sesame Street. Of course, this one is in the suburbs, and it's a bunch of ordinary looking buildings... but I was absolutely amazed that I saw it.
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    It's not your vision, for some strange reason, only admins and mods can starts polls.

    But anyway, when I was really, really little, I'm sure I probably thought of Sesame Street as a real street, but then again, I'm sure there's millions of kids who felt the same way, so...
  4. ISNorden

    ISNorden Active Member

    Sesame Street used to feel like a "real street with altered physics" when I watched the show as a girl. But the new design in so many places (Big Bird's nest area, for one) makes Sesame Street look more like the inside of a kindergarten classroom; and the way characters interact now does suggest the Muppet Show to me. Specific Muppets having specific jobs in a scheduled format, like Cookie and Prairie Dawn teaching the letter of the day? That feels more like a theater production than part of street life, even on a magical street like the one I grew up seeing.
  5. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Actually, if it were like a real street these days, 123 Sesame Street, the Nest, Hooper's Store, the Fix it shop et al would have been bulldozed down for a bunch of luxury condos that no one could possibly afford. So it's not like a real street in that aspect.:halo:

    But even with a vivid imagination, I don't think I considered it a real street. Other than a couple times, I never heard a car go by there. I know there's a bus stop to the right of Big Bird's Nest, but I kind of think of it more as a cul De Sac or a dead end street where traffic rarely ever comes through.
  6. ISNorden

    ISNorden Active Member

    Darn, you should've taken pictures of the street sign and posted a link...
  7. ISNorden

    ISNorden Active Member

    As someone who's seen her own city's "downtown" constantly being rebuilt for upscale residents, I can understand that; if the Workshop writers decided to get that realistic, though, the TV show wouldn't last another week.

    Good point! I can imagine a smaller town having street areas like that, but not New York City (the alleged location of Sesame Street in that universe). It's hard to believe that Oscar's grouch cab is the only car driving through, sometimes; long ago, another user remarked that if Sesame Street had as much traffic as the rest of inner-city New York, traffic-safety lessons would end up dominating the show! :)
  8. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Firstly, lemme just say how much I hate Condo developement, because they always crush the best thing in the neighborhood. Years ago, we lost a candy factory in Cambridge. I miss that whole area smelling like chocolate. I don;'t even think the condo is even open yet. If so, no one lives in it. Moving on

    Due to budget constraints, I feel that Follow that Bird and even Elmo in Grouchland make the street look like the buisy street that it was meant to be. Heck, those times you saw the other side of the street with buildings all over the place. Too bad that was only for the movies, though.

    I don't go buy there all too often (maybe 3 times a year or so) but I could take a pic next time I go by there.
  9. ISNorden

    ISNorden Active Member

    Which means you're probably right about a "realistic" Sesame Street; 123 and both of the shops would probably get torn down first. Those buildings have defined the neighborhood on that show for years!

    It's a shame the big-name Hollywood studios have enough money to do a better job with the scenery than Sesame Workshop can--and I mean that without the least bit of sarcasm.


    That'd be cool, if you can manage it!
  10. TellyM

    TellyM New Member

    A lot of New York looks just like Sesame Street, and is just as quiet. It's a neighborhood, it isn't meant to be busy. There are lots of streets just like that, and they're especially mellow during the hours when most people are at work.
  11. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    Yes :). It's real I tell you! Real! :D
  12. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    I aways figured that they live on a street together, but that they were talent hunted for their incredible math, alphabet, etc skills and asked to move to the street, knowing that they would be on a "Truman Show" type deal. I don't think they have scripts, but they know the cameras are there. Perhaps mechanical cameras, not ones with people carrying them.

    So they can talk to the cameras as if they were addressing an audience when there is something specific they want to teach, but otherwise get on with their lives.
  13. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    I wish it was a real street, but I don't mind it being a television one.
  14. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Agreed. And considering the part of inner-city New York that SS is supposed to exist on is within the quiet neighborhood limits, I would like to have my inner child still think that SS somewhat exists.

    Plus, as all Muppet fans would attest to, we would probably like to consider the characters as different entities than just someone attached to a performer or an actor.

    So yes, Carrol Spinney "knows" Oscar the Grouch and Big Bird, but sans Jim & Kermit (which was--for me, personally--more of a partnership than anything, like it was with Walt & Mickey), even in stage show-esque sequences in which Muppet characters interact with real-time people outside of the ones they see every time they perform, we would like to believe that--somehow--Carrol Spinney is different than Oscar the Grouch and Big Bird (even though we know logically, that Carrol performs both characters).
  15. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    I know what you mean. It's like Carroll is someone who lives down the street form Oscar and Big Bird know. He might be a performer, but not of those tow.
  16. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Same with Jerry Nelson and The Count or Gobo. We know logically that Jerry performs those characters, but our inner child would still like to think that The Count and Gobo are seperate entities from Jerry.
  17. muppetfan89

    muppetfan89 Member

    Do you ever wish that Sesame Street was real?

    I know I do. I would love to walk down the street and see Big Bird and Snuffy playing with each other. I would love also love seeing Super Grover flaying through the air, yelling, "Down! Down! And away!" I would also love seeing all the humans. How about you?
  18. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    I would be a little freaked out seeing as Big Bird never ages.:smirk:
  19. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Neither do many of the Muppet characters on the Street, including the red menace.
  20. muppet baby

    muppet baby Active Member

    I really love this tread so much i am so glad that someone thought of this besides me. I really though i am serious about this very much :D one thing that i love looking at is the fact that it is a wonderful way to just sit back and let the world go away, kind of like Alice and Wonderland haha. Sesame Street, i am so glad that i got back in to again after being away from during my high school years because i really could not watch to much TV, do to the fact that i have some learning disbilties and some subjects in school where so hard . I really missed it very much better late than never. I could watch every eposde of the show so many times and never get tired of it .

    :)


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