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Frank and Jim not good singers?

Discussion in 'Henson People' started by BooberFraggless, Oct 19, 2005.

  1. BooberFraggless

    BooberFraggless New Member

    I read in the book Jim Henson the Works that Frank and Jim both claimed to not be good singers and they were very nervous about singing on the show, and either of them thought it would be a good idea for either of them to have there charachters sing songs. Now what puzzles me here is I think Both Jim and Frank have excellent singing voices, and I think their charachters did just fine at singing. Some of their best singing performances were

    I don't wanna live on the moon (Ernie)
    If moon was cookie (Cookie Monster)
    That's Love (Bert)
    My favorite number is 6 (Bert)
    It's not easy being Green (Kermit)
    Sometimes me think what is friend (Cookie Monster)
    I wish I had a friend to play with me (Bert)

    I think the 2 of them were just being modest, or they weren't all that confident about their singing abilities. What do you all think about their singing voices?
  2. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Are we forgetting Rainbow Connection?
  3. Xela

    Xela New Member

    Yeah! Rainbow Connection might be the most recognized of all! Plus, it's a good song. :)
  4. Infinity Sirius

    Infinity Sirius New Member

    I have a terrible voice when it comes to singing, but when I use my character voices the off key notes become tolerable to listen too.
  5. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member

    I think they are fine singers. I don't think Cookie Monster singing is the best example of Frank having a great singing voice, but I see what you mean. Whenever Frank performed Bert or Fozzie, his singing shined through more as they were not so brash and charactery. Jim Henson has a great singing voice. His speaking is beautiful enough in it self. He was very soft spoken when performing characters like Ernie and Kermit. Those are his best singing characters. The Muppeteer who is best known for his singing has always been Jerry Nelson. Jim Henson has even noted what an incredible singer he is. Nelson's voice is so well control and very recordable. I think that every one of his characters have a special musical quality to them and always pleasing to listen to. Richard Hunt I would say the same thing about. Carroll Spinney's voice is another good one. Even as Oscar he sounds good. Always very clear.
  6. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member

    It just shows how different it is when you are singing as yourself or as another person.;) They say that people who can do a lot of voices are often great singers.
  7. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member

    Also, this is the first I have heard about Jim Henson being insecure about singing. I know that Frank Oz was very insecure about singing as Miss Piggy in the beginning. I don't think he did all of her singing for the first movie. I do know that Dave Goelz was the one who was always shy about singing. I believe he talked about it on the Fraggle Rock dvd interview. I don't think Boober sang much at first. Anyone else wanna add to this?
  8. superfan

    superfan Active Member

    I have a making of the Muppet Show special on tape and I recall the narrator saying that all the performers (without muppets) were shy and humble. As soon as a Muppet was on their hands, they instantly came to life and were confident about the silly and manic interactions they had with others. It would definately make sense that if you hide behind a character who is vibrant and fun, other aspects of your personality can improve (such as singing) and confidence levels. Actors and comedians experience the exact same thing.
  9. Gonzo14

    Gonzo14 Active Member

    Jm and Frank were both good singers as their characters, but maybe they weren't so good singing with their normal voices
  10. Krazedmuppet

    Krazedmuppet Active Member

    they may not be awsome singers (though I always thought Jim was) BUT can you imagine how hard it is to sing, not only in your voice good, but in there puppets voice?! that just blows my mind! and not just one, no, a bunch of diffrent voices, I think that is quite the talent
  11. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member


    Well, if you think about it Ernie's voice IS Jim's real voice.
  12. superfan

    superfan Active Member

    There is something about Jim Henson's singing voice that is just so hauntingly pure and simple. Think "Imagination" or "I Don't Want to Live on the Moon". I've shed a couple tears listening to those songs with my daughter singing along.
  13. Daffyfan2003

    Daffyfan2003 Well-Known Member

    And don't forget about the huge number of Miss Piggy songs:

    Let There Be Love
    Pig Calypaso
    Never Before, Never Again
    Never on Sunday
    I Won't Dance

    The list goes on and on.
  14. JaniceFerSure

    JaniceFerSure Active Member

    Jim and Frank's singing

    Well,personally I enjoy Frank and Jim's voices.Jim(and Frank) thinking that his voice was bad?Yes,that is modesty.For someone who thought his voice was bad,sung a lot.My favorite songs sung by Jim:

    • Bein' Green
    • Magic Store & Magic Store reprise
    • Rainbow Connection
    • To Morrow
    • 'Cause You Don't Want My Love
    • Swedish Chef Theme
    • The Cat Came Back
    • I Hope That Something Better Comes Along(Rowlf and Kermit,both Jim)
    • Tenderly
    • Lazy Bones
    • Atom Bomb
    • Money,Money,Money
    • I've Never Harmed an Onion
    • Macho Man
    • I Don't Want to Live on the Moon
    • Imagine That
    • Imagination
    • D d d
    • La La La
    My Fav. Songs of Frank's:
    • Association of 'W' Lovers
    • Doin' the Pigeon
    • La La La
    • Never Before and Never Again
    • Hugga Wugga
  15. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member


    I don't believe Frank sang "Never Before" that was someone else.
  16. Daffyfan2003

    Daffyfan2003 Well-Known Member

    Nope. That was Frank's voice. This was discussed on another thread. What happened was that somebody else originally recorded the song, but it was Frank singing as Miss Piggy. Besides I've heard it in an audio recording of the song.
  17. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member

    Yeah. I wasn't sure if it was just a rumor or not. SO i didn't know. Thanks for clearing that up.
  18. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    I don't know if anybody mentioned this, but Richard hunt had a great harmonic voice, and I think as a group, all of the Muppeteers sang really well.
  19. JaniceFerSure

    JaniceFerSure Active Member

    More songs of Frank's and Jim's:

    • Happy Feet
    • Movin' Right Along
    • Mahna Mahna
    • C is for Cookie
  20. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member

    Hunt and Nelson were both very talented vocalists, which is possibly one reason why they worked so well together. Their voices blended so well.


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