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How big of a Muppet / Jim Henson fan are you

Discussion in 'Friends and Family' started by mupcollector1, Jun 2, 2012.

  1. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    I figure I post this for the fun of it among other reasons. One is that I never really meet another Muppet fan in person and the only time I ever seen Muppet fans is when I went to MuppetFest back in 2001. And I can totally tell how crazy Muppet Fans can get. Even to the point of seeing people write Kermit and Jim's name on the lavatory stool ways. lol So I'm just curious about just how Muppet fans are individually and their lifestyles.

    I'll go first.

    Well I'm an artist indie filmmaker who makes comedy films. I'm also a cartoonist both comics and animation and a puppeteer.

    And Jim Henson is my #1 hero. I have pictures of him and the Muppeteers all over my apartment living room as well as the first 5 Muppet Movies in frames on my wall and a big poster of The New Muppet movie on my wall. Also a framed snapshots from Handmade Video from 5/7/90 figuring it's the last film footage of Jim before his passing. Plus an autographed photo of Frank Oz that he sent me in the mail which I'm really proud of. The mini Think Different poster, various photo print outs that I have either taped or tacked to my walls including the snapshot of the cut scene of The Muppet Show pitch tape.

    I have a mini statue of Jim Henson on my living room desk and the Fisher Price Kermit puppet on one of it's shelves that I've had since I was a kid. It was a lucky find at a goodwill type shop.

    In my apartment between my kitchen and bedroom, I have a special wall that I call my quote wall. And most of it is copy machine copies of quotes from my copy of "It's not easy being green and other things to consider". And in my Kitchen above my kitchen desk I have a picture of a young 1960s Jim Henson in his office.

    Aside from being an artist who's trying to get into the industry with a sort of messy apartment full of books, computer equipment and drawings that fell durring animation scanning lol I am also a DVD collector and cartoon / old school comedy fan. So I have print outs of things from Spitting Image, Les Guignols De L'info, irreverent comic scripts from National Lampoon and The Far Side, Ren & Stimpy (an actual layout drawing used from the show), a drawing from creator John K to me back in 2001. As well as other adult cartoon and animation productions and TV shows from my childhood. My bathroom is full of weird funny corny horror movie print out posters from Troma and of course toilet humor just for the fun of it. Like Mr. Hankey from South Park. And my bedroom isn't as devoted to art. Mostly it's cat pictures and pictures of Tomboy Punk girls, Tank Girl, Haruko of FLCL, SanDeE* (Young Sarah Jessica Parker) various masculine females, K.D. Lang album covers and Harley Quinn :) (*BLUSH*)

    Anyway my DVD collection is pretty big. A mix of Henson productions, Animation, Slapstick classic parody films of Zucker Bros and Mel Brooks, and really bad and corny B-movies. As well as a huge DVD-R book of my tape trade collections. Rare Jim Henson / Muppet footage, Muppet Show seasons not on DVD yet, Jim Henson Hour, Muppets Tonight, Apperances, etc. Bad Saturday Morning Cartoons of the 80s, Animated Shows and shorts, and a bunch of weird twisted crazy documentries and mixtapes of bad public access TV and stuff that I like to show my best friend late at night just for laughs or to annoy him and laugh myself lol

    And I'm becoming more and more of a computer buff. loads of USB cords everywhere, a few DVD players, DVD recorder, fast Scanner and copier, blank DVDs, cords gallore. And of course my master tapes of films I made. And just bags of stuff, mostly two or three heavy backpags that I drag with me everywhere I go because I'm never ending studying, taking notes and drawing. lol It drives my mother nuts when she wants to spend time with me and bring me out to eat and I'm just coming up with ideas for a script or pitch and stuff. lol

    Any finally my book collection which isn't as big as my dvd collection, barely any fiction, mostly non-fiction. It's made up of almost every Jim Henson biography ever released in book form, my ever growing Mad Magazine / Cracked Magazine collection, Punk feminist graphic novels (Tank Girl / Love and Rockets), Tomboy studies, Myers Briggs Personality Science studies, The Complete Far Side, and various books on the film industry and my favorite shows.

    And as for my social life, it's very small. It's just my mother who I'm really close to. And my best friend who I've been friends with for over 10 years and it keeps improving and we just find more and more things were into. We're basicly nerds that collect DVDs, old video games (I have a collection of Super Nintendo Games based on Cartoon TV shows lol). He recently got into The Muppet Show so now I have a friend who I can finally watch The Muppets with, without the fear of needing to explain why I love them so much. lol

    Still single in my mid-20s but I feel that Myer Briggs science is going to guide me to the perfect partner and social life. I strongly believe in the science. lol

    And finally my philosophy of why I love The Muppets, it's several things.
    One of course is the comedy. It's so crazy. It's full of explosions, monsters eating characters, surreal wackiness and bad puns. lol Never a dual moment, very very fast pace. lol
    Also just impressed with the TV puppetry and Movie puppetry technology that Jim Henson made specially for the medium. Like Bob Clampett did with with Benny and Cecil but bringing it further. And I'm sort of trying to figure out the next thing to bring puppets and cartoons closer. I'm start to get into digital Motion Capture puppetry mainly because of my own weaknesses and economy production budgets. For example I can draw really well, but I struggle with animation a little bit. And I'm a really good puppeteer, but I struggle building puppets and puppet material is too expensive for me right now. Especially looking since High School for my first job. lol I'm hoping to get something at Wal-Mart soon just to get some cash in my pocket. Though of course my dream is to be an artist in the medium.

    Like I said, Jim's my hero and there's so many things about him that amazes me as an artist and media business man. Jim always had a million ideas in his head and always pitching, always having fun at his job with his employees at the same time do some hard work and really truly caring about art. And unlike most bosses in general, Jim and his crew became a family of close friends and truely carred about each other behind the scenes and their love of art, being treated equal and being able to come up with ideas and adlibs and just being able to laugh and have fun on projects from start to finish. Plus I've heard stories of Jim hanging out with his crew when they didn't do work like have parties at the Waldorf and I heard a story that they went water skeeing once :) Plus my favorite is them goofing around on the set, in the workshop and sometimes having characters say and do things off camera that they would never say on production just to make each other laugh. lol I know there's cartoonists who have that kind of fun as well. I know deep in my heart, that's the life for me. And I'm willing to work hard to get to my life's journey. :)

    Anyway sorry of this post is a bit long but that's kind of what I wanted to do, have fans kind of talk about their lifestyles a big and just how Muppet fandom plays in their lives. Especially seeing how wild some Muppet fans can get at MuppetFest, I would love to hear some of these stories. :)
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  2. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    Forgot to add one more Muppet fandom detail besides wanting to write a Muppet Movie script. And I truely think Muppet fans can totally relate to this one. lol I still have like 20 something huge bins of Muppet Membrobillia at my Dad's house a state away that I couldn't fit into my apartment and hoping to get a job soon so I can pay for storage and quickly organize it and probably sell or trade some stuff on the forum sometime in the future. I just want to save the 70s and 80s stuff I have and my palisades collection. I have too much plush dolls that my father spoild me with as a kid because, well me and my dad never got along to put it sort. It's a very very long story. Most of it was verbal abuse from the guy. But anyway, the big Muppet collection thing I can totally relate too. lol

    And just quickly replying to how much I constaintly read and study, r&d (research and development). I got to Power Fitness a couple times a week to work out. And what's cool is that I can hook up my ipod to it so I'm studying film writing and documentaries while running on a treadmill. lol
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  3. miss kermie

    miss kermie Well-Known Member

    To answer the question, to EVERYONE....


    LOL JK
  4. Hayley B

    Hayley B Well-Known Member

    I'm not a big fan. I've always liked them. But not well into them. Before I decided to join Muppet Central. I kept thinking that this is just going to be a mere fad.
  5. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    I always considered The Muppets to be sort of a cult following sort of thing. Back in the 70s they were HUGE mainstream, but as years went on. It became a cult following. A huge one in fact. I was so amazed how many people where there at MuppetFest back in 2001. I must have been the youngest person there. lol
  6. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    lol Really? What kind of things do you do to express your fandom :)
  7. JJandJanice

    JJandJanice Well-Known Member

    I got a HUGE collection of Muppet stuff and last week I got Kermit the Frog tattooed on my shin, which I'll post pictures of soon.
  8. Hayley B

    Hayley B Well-Known Member

    Look forward in seeing it. Why didn't you get one of Janice?
  9. JJandJanice

    JJandJanice Well-Known Member

    Lol, I was honestly considering it, truthfully, I am actually debating on doing the whole leg as Muppets.
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  10. JJandJanice

    JJandJanice Well-Known Member

    By the way, I just added the pictures on the thread "JJ's first Muppet tattoo" on the Friends and Family fourm.
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  11. Hayley B

    Hayley B Well-Known Member

    I'll check it out. :)
  12. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    Wow, Muppet Tattoos. Got me bet. I'm too afraid of getting tattoos. lol

    Any of you guys heard about the news years ago that there was actually a line of Muppet Underwear being sold at Hot Topic or some fashion store? I think it was made for adults because there was models wearing them, I remember seeing pictures of it somewhere. Now that's just scary. lol
  13. DannyRWW

    DannyRWW Well-Known Member

    You know I think my fandom comes out in how the muppets and Jim Hanson influence me as an educator...when you walk into my classroom you will see first a large muppet poster behind my desk as well as my autographed photo of Kermit/Steve whitmire I got a few years back from a student. I am a puppeteer and I've convinced my school/church to back my running of a puppet program at our school. It really is a joy to get to share my love of puppetry and the muppets (and truthfully all of Jim Hensons work) with my students. I love that this is actually part of my job that I get paid to do (though the History teacher part is the primary focus). I had the joy of being able to take my puppet kids to see the new muppet movie this year and probably my biggest high light of Muppet fandom was being interviewed by CNN for their Geekout blog interview with Walter. They quoted me three times and used a video of mine. I was even more excited when I found out this was psoted on all their local affiliates pages. I do have tons 0f muppet merchandiste too (including dvds and action figures galore and books...lots of books) but agian I guess I express my fandom in my work.
  14. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    Yeah same here. I express a lot of my Muppet fandom in my art. I've always been strongly influenced in The Muppet Show and Classic Sesame for the very silly and wild irreverent humor (especially explosions lol) and I got into satire though Dinosaurs first and then through Spitting Image then South Park.

    I've had to deal with a TV news interview myself with my local Fox News. The news guy wasn't very good in my opinion. I was trying to promote my work a bit and I showed him clips of my indie puppet / cartoon show and him and a young camera guy just stared at my puppet videos totally confused and frustrated. I had a feeling after they said they didn't get it and didn't laugh at any of my jokes either spoken or on the video reel, I had a feeling they were going to get up and leave. But the camera guy kept taking his camera and running around my apartment filming every single wall while this news guy who also told me he hated his job talked to be for about 2 1/2 hours. And this was organized on the phone and email for about a month, I thought it was going to be a quick 30 minute shoot. lol So I showed them how I did the digital puppet animations that I do and they didn't become interested until I told them that I just do direct to DVD stuff now a days because there was this mean teen who stool my videos online and bullied me and imitated me bullying others and making cheap rip-offs of my puppets. So I didn't see the final story until it aired. It was a mess. Bad editing and too many shots of me randomly playing my electric keyboard which I didn't think they were going to use, and it was just goofy editing telling the tragic tale of me being cyberbullied. I was pretty ticked off because I wanted the 2 minutes to be about my art and how I express myself though it. People who work in newspapers aren't as showbizy, but then again, that was just my experience with Fox. lol
    One thing I remember is they looked at my walls and he said "You like Muppets?" and I said yes I do, Jim's my hero and he responded kind of bluntly "Yeah they're okay, I've got a 2 year old at home." And that's one of those things someone can't say to me lol I take it as an insult so I told him the history of how The Muppets can apply to adults and the history of SNL, etc. Then he told me "Well your stuff seems to be more on the edge and razor sharp social satire and very unMuppet like so how can you call Jim Henson your hero?" And I told him there's a quote Jim said something about never follow your hero's too closely otherwise you'll accomplish the same thing they already have done. But what's so funny about that quote is no matter how much I try to do something totally different, Sooner or Later I'm going to find a story of Jim's career that's similar to what I'm currently doing. lol Which I totally don't mind, I find it really funny and ironic. lol Must be a sign. :)
  15. Zoot Fan 1981

    Zoot Fan 1981 Well-Known Member

    Electric Mayhem Tattoo featuring Rowlf. Here's the rest of the band.
    Underneath Rowlf is my tattoo artist's signature.
  16. miss kermie

    miss kermie Well-Known Member

    *realizing I was asked this a long long time ago, shame on Jaz's lateness*

    I watch straight Muppets on DVD...
    When I have cable. :p

    I draw nothing but Muppets.

    Muppets is something I talk about everyday

    I pretend I'm Miss Piggy sometimes.

    Miss Piggy is my role-model

    I tell nothing but Fozzie Bear jokes.

    I use Muppet running gags...
    Even if it doesn't make sense to anybody else.
  17. beatnikchick300

    beatnikchick300 Well-Known Member

    I've been writing Muppet fanfiction since the ripe old age of 13 (though trust me, it's very much improved since then;)), I watch both MCC and VMMX every Christmas (actually, watching MCC has been a family tradition since I was about 6, before I even became a true Muppet fan), and when I was 16, and a member of the now-defunct PPG world forum, I had this same avatar (to my chagrin, most of the other members of the forum thought Johnny was a Sesame Street character. :skeptical: Peons...). So, maybe not as hardcore as some of you guys, but I'm still pretty devoted.
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  18. vettech28

    vettech28 Well-Known Member

    I'm an animal person, first and foremost, but I've always been a big Muppet fan. I sing Muppet songs every opportunity I get, I memorize some Muppet movies and specials from memory, every Christmas, I play all my favorite Muppet Christmas specials and whenever I get bored, I find time to watch Muppet DVDs or watch them on YouTube.
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  19. JimAndFrank

    JimAndFrank Well-Known Member

    Compared to some of you guys, I'm still an amateur, but I done enough research to keep up with the best of fans. To put things into perspective, The Muppets are my EVERYTHING! If course I have other interests, but none if them speak to me the way Muppets do. They have everything I look for in a friend. They're funny, a tiny bit insane, musical and most importantly, they're flawed.

    I absolutely adore Kermit and it's not because he is the star. He has the most honest voice I've ever heard (courtesy of Jim and Steve). He genuinely loves the people around him and values life experiences more than money. He's down to earth, bubbly and very kind- hearted. And yet he is not perfect. He screws things up just like any of us do.

    I can't stress enough how important it is for a character to be flawed. It makes them even more realistic and you can believe in them. I don't criticise Fozzie for his bad jokes or Gonzo for his chicken fetish. Instead I applaud it and cheer for more.

    So to answer the question, I'm Australia's biggest Muppet fan and Kermit will always be my leading frog :)
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  20. misspiggy5260

    misspiggy5260 Well-Known Member

    Enough to the point that I got on stage the first day at my new school and sang Halfway down the stairs.

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