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Hurricane episodes to air September 12-16

Discussion in 'Sesame Street' started by alizakaila, Sep 3, 2005.

  1. Daffyfan4ever

    Daffyfan4ever Well-Known Member

    I never really thought of that. I would think she meant by plane. It seems that any of Big Bird's relatives would be to heavy to be able to fly on their own.

    But I guess it's possible that Granny can fly. The main reason BB gives for not flying is that "he never learned how." Maybe Granny Bird has. Then again, she could have went by plane from a different country. Just a few thoughts on this.
  2. BEAR

    BEAR Well-Known Member

    It would not take 3 weeks to fly anywhere by plane.
  3. mikebennidict

    mikebennidict Well-Known Member

    i was not referring to when his house got blown away! I mean that's understandable. it would of been nice if instead of crying about everyone not building his nest he could of tried to figure it out or ask someone like his grandmother or some other source to help him out and that would of been a better example to the young ones.
  4. BEAR

    BEAR Well-Known Member

    I know exactly what you were referring to and my response still stands.
  5. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Well-Known Member

    Actually, the show was written and shot before then. One of the lines had to be changed for more recent airings. (For those who haven't seen the original episodes: in 3979 I.M. Pig says "Come along, little piggies, we're going to build twin nests on the Twin Towers." After 9/11, the line was dubbed to "Come along, little piggies, we're building a new hotel at the Best Nesters.") The following season, however, did have four episodes in responce of 9/11.
  6. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Am I correct to assume that the dubbed line is on the video release (if the entire scene is included).
  7. DTF

    DTF Well-Known Member

    Regarding Big Bird and rebuilding his nest...

    That's one of the big problems with muppets - we can humanize them only to a certain extent. Big Bird *could* have figured out or asked how to rebuild his nest, b/c he's a bird. Most 6-year-olds can't build a house too well :) Hence they'd be at the mercy of adults and feeling blah just like BB because they have to wait.

    Seriously, when doing a TV show like SS, but any one really, there is a fine line to be drawn. How to teach that all-important life skill that allows a Big Bird to go to others and ask for help, versus how to accept that there's some things that just can't be done, and it's okay if you can't.

    Personally, I think they used BB not trying on his own to rebuild his nest for one reason - they wanted to show that it's okay to be traumatized. When you're traumatized by something, esp. at that age, thje pain doesn't last for only a day or two. Children grieve differently, so the memory would have stayed with BB for weeks. Not all the time, granted, but if this were a real-time sitcom, for instance, you would expect Big Bird to have a nightmare or two that could be referred to, and even weeks later he might be spooked by a bad thunderstorm. (To their credit, I didn't see it this year, but IIRC Telly *was* shown to be very nervous about another hurricane.) He wouldn't remember it all the time obviously. But, he might need a little extra reassurance. (See the "Full House" episode "Aftershocks," which takes place a few days after the Oct. 1989 quake though aired later, for a *super* example of this, though there wasn't near the damage there were some psychological aftershocks, albeit small. The comic strip "For Better Or For Worse," too - April almost drowned & was saved by their dog at age 4, months later there's a passing reference to her still being bothered when she goes ner the river.)

    They coudln't do that, though - they had 5 days to tell a story that if it's a real-time sitcom (or comic strip) would have taken place over a few months. So, the question is, did the show have any better opportunity to show kids that it's okay to feel traumatized and therefore helpless. Because,t hat's what BB really felt was helpless - he didn't refuse to because he didn't want to or couldn't. He was upset because he felt powerless still.

    I think it's possible. Telly, of course, was great, but thaat's his character to be nervous, so he's really too "expected" to be of any use. It would take a mupper who is normally pretty strong, who had something destroyed and they had to rebuild. But, they feel powerless and helpless and so just cry and are really sad. While Big Bird is feeling the same way, but manages to go and ask for hep. Whoever helps him (Granny Bird, for instance) also could have taken the other muppet under their wing, and done with them what was done for BB.

    The only question is, who would tht muppet be? Some thoughts:

    Grover. "But you're SuperGrover." "I do not feel very super going up against a hurricane." Would be great at vocalizing his feelings. Downside is his mom's mentioned & she shoudl be able to help, too, though she might feel the same.

    Oscar: A definite home that coudl have been blown away. Downside is he's just too grouchy to play this sort of role, IMO. Ad, trauma shouldn't be equated with grouchiness.

    Baby bear: Given how shocked Papa Bear was in front of that camera, I'd say the whole family coudl have felt that way. Some cool references to "Goldilocks only broke my chair - that was fine compawed to this!" Downside is same as Grover's.

    Cookie Monster: Pretty much the same as above, but he's eaten so much he should be used to things being messed up. :)

    Bert & Ernie: Interesting thought, but I think they live at 123 whereas Grover's around the corner, & the bears are over the river and throught he woods or whatever. (That would be catchy, anyway.)

    The Count: Can a castle be blown over? Maybe, but he'd spend all the time counting things.

    Elmo: (Looks at legion of those distressed at how much he's on already) No.

    Praire DAwn, Zoe, Rosita: Very interesting, but they're girls and girls are often better at talking about their emotions, just like you don't want trauma to be a grouch thing you don't want boys to think it's "just a girl thing."

    Kermit: I had to add him. It's okay to dream.

    So, all that is to say this. Grover and the Bears, as least, would be capable of filling BB's spot. That would have allowed BB, who was still a major role model for some kids in 2001, to be more able to handle it. And yet, they'd still give kids the message that it's okay to be traumatized, too. Just like it's okay to have any other kind of disability, whether it's from birth, something one has from an accident, or is the result of something else.

    I'll be leaving again for a bit as studies are dogging me, but I wanted to take this little break and comment way more than you probbly ever wanted. :)
  8. Stulz

    Stulz Well-Known Member

    Original Air Dates

    I'm bought the DVD release they came out with of these episodes "Friends to the Resue" last week, but I noticed that they edited out about 20-30 + minutes from the story.

    Granted some of that was the parts were BB recapped what had happend the day before and the closing "SS was brought to you today by..." parts. But they took out Oscars fight with Gordan and Bob about leaving and other great pasrt as well.

    I making a DVD with the complete story arc and it clocks in at 95 minutes!That's the Hurricane story minus the intersicials and Elmo's World segments - although I'm including 7 of the best segment as bonus features on the DVD.

    Does anyone know the orginal airdates of these episodes from 2001? I want to put it on the back of the DVD insert.
  9. Stulz

    Stulz Well-Known Member


    Yes. Both the reairings and video contain the dubbed line.

    This is one of those Twin Tower edits I can live with. It would be inapropriate to be teaching a lesson of rebuiling only to have the audience realize that things are about to get much worse in NYC.
  10. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Well-Known Member

    Are any inserts available on the tape, or is the entire things street stories?
  11. Stulz

    Stulz Well-Known Member


    It's just the street segments from the week edited together.
  12. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Well-Known Member

    I guess I'll just pick it up for the sake of my collection then.
  13. KermieBaby47

    KermieBaby47 Well-Known Member

    I just bought this today cuz I had a gift card to blow, and I found this DVD next to the MFS/MTM 2 pack.

    Was wondering if you all could tell me: is it any good? I haven't opened it yet just in case I don't think I'll be into it. I'm not the biggest SS fan (but a HUGE Muppet fan!), but I do like them and I'm planning on picking up every figure from Palisades (will they EVER come out?!?). Kinda wanted to maybe start building up a SS DVD collection for my future kids.

    Anyhow, Stulz, you said they edited a lot out? Will I really miss it?

    Also, this is a collection of older episodes? I didn't wanna read too much of this thread as to not spoil the story. I've been hearing the ads over the intercom at Wal*Mart lately, so I was under the impression that this was a new special made cuz of Katrina and the others.

    Thanks for any info anyone can provide!

  14. BEAR

    BEAR Well-Known Member

    To my knowledge it is newly released due to the recent hurricane events. These hurricane episodes were originally aired before september 11th as a means of teaching kids about disasters and dealing with fear and emotions. Some say that it aired after the September 11th events because they had to redub a line that originally made reference to the Twin Towers. The recently reaired the full week of episodes last month in response to Hurricane Katrina.
    As for the DVD, yes it has been editted a bit. You are only getting the main street story about the hurricane and none of the extra skits and cartoons normally in between. Even some of the street scenes were unfortunately editted out a little. However, it is still a wonderful buy and you will enjoy it as will your children. These hurrican episodes was one of the great highlights in Sesame Street history. Plus, I think this was the last work Kermit ever did on Sesame Street. It should be in every fan's personal library.:)
  15. Stulz

    Stulz Well-Known Member


    Yeah it's still a great disc. any you get the whoel story but there are a few great moments like Oscar fighting with Gordon and Bob about moving his can into Bob's apartment that have been cut.

    I just made a DVD of the entire story ( I cut out the other segmenst)... and it runs 95 minutes. so they cut out over a full half hour since the DVD version only runs 50-55 min with all the previews SW adds on.

    But it is worth getting. I had never seen these epiodes before and didn't know what i was missing until I watched the complete episodes. You really can't tell THAT much...
  16. BEAR

    BEAR Well-Known Member

    You know what is weird about this? I watched the editted DVD from the store before I saw the episodes in full during the week they re-aired them and I kept wondering about Oscar. On the DVD, they kept showing his can rattling around by the wind and rain. Why do they keep showing his can? IS something gonna happen with Oscar? But then you don't really see him until briefly in Bob's apartment with all those random monsters (who I guess are homeless, i dunno) banging on the piano much to Oskie's enjoyment. Then we see him for a second giving the kids a bucket of mud to rebuild the nest. But it wasn't until I saw the fully aired episodes that I find out how Oscar ends up inside with the scene between him, Gordon and Oscar outside during the storm. Why couldn't they have given us all the other stuff? Wasn't there even a couple songs they cut out too?
  17. KermieBaby47

    KermieBaby47 Well-Known Member

    Thanks fellas. I'll have to watch it this weekend.

    So Kermit made it onto the DVD? That's cool!
  18. AAO

    AAO Well-Known Member

    I know for sure that the "Hurricane Series" aired before September 11th on account that the week before, Sesame Street's "Biography" with Harry Smith aired on A&E which also promoted that week of episodes featuring Sesame Street's Hurricane Series. They were able to switch back and forth with Sesame Street's past seasons and then "now" which was really Sesame Street's 31 or 32nd season? Anyway, it did air after September 11th.
  19. BEAR

    BEAR Well-Known Member

    yes, we figured that out.
  20. zanimum

    zanimum Well-Known Member

    Can we unpin this thread?

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