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I Want Answers...

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by D'Snowth, Sep 26, 2011.

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  1. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    You know, this has been going on for years, but now, I really want to know something...

    Why is it that half the time I post a new thread on this forum, the titles are changed? I don't see this happening very much to anyone else here, but it seems to happen to me all the time, whether it's shortening a thread title, or changing the title altogether, etc... I just really would like to know what is it about the titles I give my threads that seem to constantly garner edits? I try to give my titles proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation, while at the same time, try to make them look amusing and interesting... but I guess somewhere in the process, I must be doing something wrong, and I'd like to know what it is, and maybe perhaps something can be done to remedy this situation.
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  2. dwmckim

    dwmckim Well-Known Member





    Yoko Ono.

    (Oh wait...i should probably really get out of the habit of just reading the thread titles and not the posts themselves...)
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  3. CherryPizza

    CherryPizza Well-Known Member

    It happens to me constantly, and, quite frankly, it ****** me off no end. Yes, I realise the word will get auto-censored, but it's the only word to explain my feelings towards it.

    The moderators must have some system of logic about clearly flagging what a post is about. However, so often people make deliberate choices to title posts the way that they do, expressing their own styles in the process. The re-titling simply whitewashes people's styles and implies that there is no room for individual characters on the forum.

    God forbid we think people should feel safe being individuals on a forum about Jim Henson.
  4. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Well, it's nice to know that I'm actually NOT the only one plagued by this.
  5. Bill Bubble Guy

    Bill Bubble Guy Well-Known Member

    It's only happened to me approximately twice but I wasn't offended because I could understand why they did it in those instances.

    Back when I first joined I started a thread called When the monsters ate their fellow muppets in Classic Muppets and that became Monsters eating other muppets, which I agree was a much better way of putting it.

    The other time was when I was ranting about how The Muppet Show Comics were not available in Australia. I was so blinkety blank angry I called my thread AAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! and said in my first post now that I have your attention let me tell you why I'm so angry. That thread became TMS comics availabilty program and I actually apologised in the thread to the mods. Perhaps I had been slightly out of line even though I was so steamed up.

    I suggest Snowth and CherryPizza that you both have a private conversation with Ed or one of the other mods and ask nicely why your threads keep changing names if you can't see any reason for them to do so.
  6. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    At this time, I am PUBLICALLY asking that Ed PLEASE stop editing all my thread titles... I have no idea why he feels the need to do this, but it's very insulting, considering I always make sure my thread titles are eye-catching and interesting, but also use proper grammar and spelling that titles need to have.
  7. Speed Tracer

    Speed Tracer Well-Known Member

    How exactly are your thread titles being changed? Grammatically, spelling-wise, something else?
  8. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Okay, I know I posted this once, but...

    D'Snowth, I personally haven't touched/retitled a thread of yours in ages. If you feel a particular thread has been retitled, please state which in order to better defend myself with regards to that specific case.
    As far as targeting your threads, let me assure you that ALL threads can be subject to thread retitling if a moderator believes the need to do so to better inform the public at large what the thread content will discuss and/or if it needs to be moved to another folder or section of the forum where it fits in better.

    This is a tool all moderators have had since the beginning and have used at all times. So please keep in mind that even though I may be one of the most actively visible online members of the staff, not all mod actions at every single hour of the day are carried out by myself. Hope this helps and have a good day. :wisdom:
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  9. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    I have the opposite problem. My threads that need retitling don't get retitled and cause confusion and argumets :p :o
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  10. Bill Bubble Guy

    Bill Bubble Guy Well-Known Member

    Well Snowth. As a friend I strongly urge you to privately discuss the way you feel with the other mods with a calm respective attitude and I am sure they will be honest and reasonable with you. If anything is annoying you the best thing is to talk it over and sort things out with those involved. You will be certain to find that they will have their own sincere well-meaning reasons for making those title changes. I hope you can see each other's point of view and come to a balanced agreement. Also you made a good point Ed that none of us should automatically assume that anything we disagree with regarding moderator duties is done by you. Furthermore that said while we may not always see eye to eye about everything all our mods do we must never forget the important job they do overall in striving to keep our forum a happy and friendly place online. Thank you. :)

    And Sargey if you feel the need to ask them about your matter that's what you should do also. :)
  11. CherryPizza

    CherryPizza Well-Known Member

    This IS the feedback forum, D'Snowth's posts ARE a matter of feedback, so I fail to see why your passive-aggressive tactics are essential. If someone's public identity is being compromised by a mod, that somebody has every right to publicly express disdain.
  12. Bill Bubble Guy

    Bill Bubble Guy Well-Known Member

    Snowth is a highly valued friend and I mean him only the very best. I suppose there is a justifiable time and place for speaking out publicly but I am merely concerned that things don't get out of hand. I leave it up to you Snowth to decide for yourself when and what to post publicly about this only please keep control over your feelings. Out of control anger won't help the situation in the long run. :concern:

    And Snowth if it helps you to talk about it please send me a conversation. I want to give you any assistance I possibly can.:)
  13. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I would like to go on the record once again and say that I really think our Moderators are the best. I have had contact with each one of them in some way, and they all do a great job with the site and the Forum.

    If I have ever had an issue with anything on the forum they all have been very helpful in showing what needs to be changed and why.

    If your having this much trouble with your titles being changed and things like that why not ask someone for help instead of ranting in a thread. I'm sure another member or even a Mod would be more then happy to help with thread titles.
  14. Walter

    Walter Well-Known Member

    I actually am thankful the moderators change titles...they have saved me from Muppet Fan shame in the past...Aw. who am I kidding, we're all friends here! so here it goes...

    a few months ago I posted a video called "Walter visits the Muppet Pipes" from the NBC studio tour.. however when I posted it, I must have been tired or multitasking... because I wrote the title as "Walter visits the Muppaphones"....Yeah.. I actually made that mistake:o... Luckily, one of the mods came around and fixed it..thanks to whoever you
  15. miss kermie

    miss kermie Well-Known Member

    I'm happy for moderators too, but I put "youse" in a title, and it was changed to you. I only wanted it to be intersting. And my exclaimations were turned into periods.
  16. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    you have to admit sometimes there are spelling errors and sometimes we just don't know how to spell. I'm speaking for myself mostly, but anyways I'm glad for the changing of titles and such. Anything to help make this forum grow and be A neater and user friendly forum I'm all for it.
    The forum has been growing since the new movie and it means that people will start threads and make posts that need "editing" that just part of forum maintenance . You don't want a new Muppet/Henson fan that might want to join come on and see a lot of clutter and miss spelled words. That will make people turn away more then join, and it also reflects on not only the mods, but us as members to.
    I'm a member of the Muppet Central Forum, and that is something that i hold very dear to my heart. Like I said anything that will help MC grow, and be a better Forum i am all for it.

    P.S Thank the frogs for spell check because I have been using it so much here today that I'm starting to fix my own mistakes
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  17. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    Thread titles can be changed for a large number of reasons: misspellings, capitalization, a clearer title, consistency with other thread titles on the forum, etc. While the moderating team does change titles when we feel necessary, we strive to let members know publicly and/or privately whenever an actual post is edited for content reasons.

    Thanks to everyone who's been supportive of the occasional thread title change. Since the initial concern involved one person, I'll be sending D'Snowth a private message for us to continue to dialogue about the issue. If anyone ever has any questions about this or other issues, please feel free to contact us.
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