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Is anybody else just sick of Ice Age?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by BobThePizzaBoy, Nov 14, 2011.

  1. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I mean I never really got into anime as a genre much anyway... I did get into Pokemon when it ifrst hit the U.S., but I fell off that bandwagon well into the 2000s, it just got so hard to keep up with... I did occasionally watch French-based animes like Hamtaro and Totally Spies as guilty pleasures in my teens, but other than that. And yeah, even though some people closest to me fall into the category, these anime fan girls (and even the fan boys) scare me sometime... I mean, I think I' go into shock or cardiac arrest or something if I found myself in the middle of one of those cosplay conventions they seem to have in the northern midwest like every other month or so... who ARE those people?! :eek: :eek: :eek:
  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Hamtaro IS Japanese. I hate lame cutesy toy commercially fair like that. Those are, like, preschool shows and VERY bland compared to the Preschool shows we don't get, like Anpanman (which is actually kinda fun, a little cutesy, but weird enough to be fun).

    I take it you wouldn't like the hyper violent Fist of the North Star... the extremely masculine post apocalyptic action show where characters' heads routinely blow up?

    There are shows I find have universal appeal... I highly recommend Lupin III. it has a Pink Panther (the movie, not the cartoon) quality to it. You can't not love Zenegata, the overconfident cop who spent his life chasing Lupin, only to botch it up.

    Here's another funny thing.. you know what one of the highest ranking "animes" in Japan is (where anime just generally means animation, so everything counts)? The old Tom and Jerry cartoons. They love them. Zenegata was based off of Tom.
  3. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    @Dr Tooth: So glad you know who Kon is and dig his work. I saw Paprika and Perfect Blue in theaters, amazing. Especially Paprika. They truly are psychological thriller art films. And I LOVVVED Tokyo Godfathers. Millennium Actress was so so. But yeah, genius.

    Yeah it takes me out of the film when Japanese people dont look Japanese...or when only the older middle aged to elderly men look Japanese, but all the females look white with red hair. And as always, the turn of the century mammy-minstrel show depiction of black guys is uh...interesting.

    Japan began by emulating Disney in the 40's. Then in the late 90's, with Tarzan, Disney began aping Japan. Again, kind of funny

    Well Tooth, I have to disagree with ya...everything about Brave screams mass marketed toy line of every shape and size. Marketed to both girls and boys. Toy lines of 3d and 2d Disney films with humans always have the oddly shaped secondary and bad guy characters too. I dont see art film, I just see a film thats going to bring in a lot of box office return. To me their 'art' films are more stuff like Up and Rattatouie, where they know its going to be a big gamble that might not appeal to a lot of people. Same with Wall E, a film I wanted to like.
  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Memories of Ratatouille merchandise just flooded back to me. Plush toys of the human characters going unsold and on deep clearance. They even had the grim Restaurant critic... I cannot for the life of me picture a little boy or girl cuddling up to that... kinda creepy sounding. Heh... no wonder they didn't make a Carl Bean Bag. They shoulda just stuck to the rats. I REALLY wish I got that figure set.

    Brave could go either way... either we could have a bunch of action figures and figure sets, or we get a single play sword and nothing else. I could see them making it an art film and ignoring the toy line. Thing that bugs me...they whine about how girls aren't proactive and they're slaves to girly things... yet little girls IMMEDIATELY go for Princess dolls with interchangeable outfits... EVEN THOUGH half the Disney princesses are proactive and tough girls. I actually would love to see girls grabbing up Merida toys and acting out adventures.
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  5. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
  6. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    Studio Ghibli's films do a pretty good job of having Asians look Asian.
  7. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I was really taken by surprise when I saw the Brave trailer in the theater, because I had never heard anything about the movie beforehand, and I thought that all Pixar was working on right now were sequels (and in MI's case, a prequel).
  8. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Not really... Cars 2 was bumped up ONLY because another movie they were planning, Newt was canceled due to undisclosed production problems and the fact that the plot was similar to the hideous piece of garbage Alpha and Omega as well as Rio (which I didn't see and kinda want to). Cars 2 was set for next summer, and Brave was beyond that.
  9. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    Have you actually had the misfortune of seeing Alpha and Omega? My friend, who I swear is a closet furry, made me watch it with her. Given her reaction by the end of the movie, I don't think she really liked it that much either.
  10. robodog

    robodog Well-Known Member

    I'm a Furry and I have no interest in Alpha and Omega. And I should point out not all furries are in it for the R rated sex stuff. I avoid that stuff like the plague. I'm just in it because I like cartoons and movies involving talking dogs, drawing dogs and creating a nonhuman alter ego.
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I don't know if that even makes a "furry." The best cartoon characters ARE animals, IMO... but that doesn't make me one... I LOVE the Looney Tunes, Rocky and Bullwinkle, and just about any animated duck imaginable... I thought Furry was just the sexual aspect of it.

    But to tie this into the main subject... Lionsgate had NOOOOOO business making CGI kid's films. Happily Ne'Er After was garbage, and they made a second for no reason. These noob studios are almost as bad as the off brand Brazilian Ratatoing places. I did love MGM's morbid Igor movie (the ending was too saccharine though) other than that, we have quite enough CGI kid movies, thank you.
  12. robodog

    robodog Well-Known Member

    There's no strict definition on what does and doesn't make a furry. It's really one of those "ask ten people get ten different answers" sort of things. Generally though, if you like anthropomorphic animals and want to consider yourself a furry then you are one. A lot of people refuse to accept the label due to the bad reputation the fandom has though. I used to be like that myself, but I finally gave in. To be fair though, a lot of people in the fandom are trying to improve it's reputation. The problem lies in the fact that the fandom has a lot of whackjobs that are too stupid to grasp that no one wants to hear about their fetishes. But it is very possible to be a furry and shun the more unsavory aspects of the fandom. I'm living proof.

    I've never heard of Happily Ne'Er after. That thing must have flopped and flopped hard. Did that even get a wide release?
  13. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    To me, that is not a furry. That would be like calling Walt Disney and Marc Brown furries. Heck, by that logic, 99% of the world are furries.Its like if you ever even remotly liked a show with animal characters you are a furry, and all kids growing up in the 90s that watched Rocko and CatDog are furries. I do not consider myself a furry even though all draw is anthro animals, I have a fursona and a pokesona.

    No, I truly believe she has some kind of odd sexual fetish for wolves and won't admit it to herself.

    Its because of those people who like X rated furry porn and are turned on by it that give everyone who has ever liked an anthro character a bad name.

    EDIT: I want to add I use the term fursona loosely. Originally I made it to appease my friend, who wanted me to draw one with her. I was just bored when I drew the pokesona. Since I can't draw people worth a crap, I just stuck with this "fursona" I made to incorporate myself into my drawings.
  14. MuppetySmurf

    MuppetySmurf Well-Known Member

    The only CGI movie I like is The Smurfs.
  15. robodog

    robodog Well-Known Member

    I agree with that. I don't get Furry porn ( actually I don't get ANY porn. I'm asexual ) and a lot of the people who are into it are quite vocal about it. They're too stupid to keep their wierd fetishes to themselves and as a result tend to drag anyone who is into anthropomorphic animals down into the mud with them.
    But as I've said, there's no solid rule on what is and isn't a furry. The only thing everyone can agree on is that it centers around anthropomorphic animals. After that it kind of falls apart somewhat. You have people who are into it for the art, people who are into it for the porn, people who believe they were an animal in another life, and so on. And then you have people like me who would generally be happier if they were something other than human. I know that sounds strange, but I identify with dogs much more strongly than I do humans. Given a choice I'd rather be an anthropomorphic dog than a person. I don't believe in all the mystical bullcrap that other furries/therians/otherkin who feel this way do. It's purely a psychological thing and I know it. I think that more than anything else qualifies me. But even if it really doesn't it's just a label anyway. I am what I am whether you call it furry or not.
  16. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    I'd be lying if I said I would give up the chance to be part animal or all animal. Honestly, I think it would be awesome to be an anthro komodo dragon. But thats no different than saying it would be awesome to be a wizard or elf or troll or something, at yet it seems like these days that's a crime. Its like, just because you are a moron means that I can't have fantasies of being something I'm not? I honestly don't understand why it seems that people who consider themselves furries (minus the creepy fetish people) attract such seething hatred.

    But you know, its like punk. No one can agree on what it is. My idea of what real punk is stems from its real origins as the "I'm doing this my way so screw you!" attitude of the first punk bands. What I consider to be punk music is completely different from the next person. Not to mention the heated flame wars of people who claim to be fans of "real punk." If you ever venture onto the music video of Punk Rock 101 by Bowling for Soup, the comments are funny. The song is making fun of the same people insulting it. But I'm digressing.
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  17. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    You're not alone, I know other people who avoid most, if not all, CGI movies like the plague.
  18. robodog

    robodog Well-Known Member

    This. This so VERY much. I can't figure it out either. The only explaination I can come up with is that the creepy fetish people are so loud that they overshadow everyone else in the fandom. But then some genuinely hate the idea that some people would enjoy being something other than human too so they hate furries for that as well. I don't know.
  19. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Im sure you can be a "fur" without the creepy fetishistic aspect. Ive met folks at anime and nerd cons who seemed to be into the more innocent aspect of anthropomorphism. For some reason anthro goth dogs seem to be the most popular on Deviant Art and Fur Affinity.

    I like some anthro stuff, like 90's Nickelodeon and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

    Anyways, everyone needs a healthy positive creative outlet even if other people think it strange
  20. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I REALLY hope the second movie keeps them in the Smurf Village. Otherwise, you wind up with The Hangover 2... the absurdity of trying to copy the same movie again with a bigger budget and failing at it. I still didn't like them having to go into New York, and I think the movie coulda done just as well if they kept everyone in the Middle Ages. Hank Azaria's Gargamel is the only reason I enjoyed that film.

    Still, where the heck is an American DVD copy of Smurfs and the Magic Flute? That's what the Smurfs were REALLY about.

    I happen to like Anthros, humans, humanoids, robots, aliens... basically anything that can be turned into a cartoon... though I'm terrible at drawing robots... well, Mechs anyway... I have characters for everything, and I love characters of anything... but I think everyone likes some anthro characters... Looney Tunes, Disney... There are those who do have some... well... interresting tastes for Gadget of Rescue Rangers, The Catillac Cats, and especially Sonic the Hedgehog. I still say Furries have seized that Franchise because Eggman/Robotnik never gets any love outside the internet meme.

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