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Joseph Gordon-Levitt Signed On to Star in Fraggle Rock Movie

Discussion in 'Fraggle Rock' started by MrBloogarFoobly, Mar 19, 2015.

  1. Iscah

    Iscah Well-Known Member

    I don't think Doc will be in it. It would be odd to recast him.

    Possibly a new human character could have Sprocket with him, but I would rather that didn't happen either. (I know, realistically speaking, a man and his dog can't be together forever - but if you don't show them apart, then we can pretend otherwise.)

    The Fraggle world is so complex I don't think we are going to see everyone and every part of it within a single movie, without it feeling squashed in. It might be necessary to leave some things out for the sake of a better movie - and if the movie is good (as a stand-alone story and not just for fans' nostalgia) then there is more chance that people will want to go and watch the original series as well.
  2. muppetperson

    muppetperson Well-Known Member

    There were different versions of Doc for different countries, so if the FR Movie were to get a Worldwide release, some people would be seeing a different Doc in any case.
  3. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Ehhh,... The Chipmunks, in their own universe were in "the real world." Their film at least felt natural compared to the others. And frankly, as far as Looney Tunes goes, Tiny Toons had it right. "When it comes to cartoons, us old guys only have a 7 minute attention span." Other than that, yeah. The first Smurfs movie did it only because of the Chipmunks film. Then again, it was better than the even worse concept... a Belgian girl crying Smurf toys to life. Shudder... I remember when Corey Edwards gave up completely on that Fraggle movie saying the scary coincidence was that the studio was pushing the Fraggle Movie to essentially be what the Smurfs movie was, right down to the completely gratuitous BLAM where they're playing Guitar Hero.

    While I'm not opposed to the idea of the Fraggles having to run out of the Rock and into the real world at some point, I certainly don't want the entire movie to be them running around asking "what's this" and "what's that" to a gratuitous extent. That was done much more subtle with Uncle Matt in the original series. I'd say, take a cue from Sponge out of Water. Make it the last half hour or so of the movie, and spend most of the time having an adventure in the rock. Maybe with cutaways to Traveling Matt topside.

    Above all, what I'd love to see, but probably won't, is having original script writers for the show as consultants to shape this to be a more Fraggle Rock feeling film than just a film with FR characters in it.
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  4. Rugratskid

    Rugratskid Well-Known Member

    Would some of the Fraggles have to be recast? I can't imagine Karen Prell saying no to this, but aren't Steve Whitmire and Dave Goelz under a contract with Disney? (Maybe not, I'm just guessing they are) I shudder at Wembley, Boober AND Traveling Matt being recasted.. Gobo has a performer (who in my opinion, did very well, and could do even better with practice) and I have no idea about Kathy Mullen returning. But recasting 3 main Fraggles (not counting Gobo) is too much for me.
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  5. cahuenga

    cahuenga Well-Known Member

    Dave did some voice over on the music clip they did 3 years ago...and I think his contract would be like Eric`s, Matt`s or Rudman´s contract on sesame street, so I guess he would be involved in the film... Kathy did Mokey two years ago in a convention...so she would be involved in the film too...another solution its looping dialogue for their characters, like did Frank Oz in most scenes of Muppets from Space..
  6. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    When Steve Whitmire was interviewed for Tough Pigs back in 2008, he said that Disney surprisingly hadn't put the performers under contract, and that all Muppet performers under Disney, Henson, and Sesame Workshop are freelance performers. Not sure if it's changed since, but I doubt it.

    Years ago I wondered how likely Steve and Dave would be to do the movie, having to balance time with the Muppets, but now that Muppets Most Wanted didn't do well, I sort of feel more confident that they'll have time to do it (even though there are supposedly Muppet projects planned that we don't know about).
  7. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    One cynical part of me has to ask the obvious question: Given the public wasn't too gangbusters for MMW even after zillions of dollars in advertising, how the heck is the public going to be super excited for a FR movie in this day and age? I could write a book about how amazing, magical, and important FR was and still is...but at the end of the day it was a show on not just cable, but premium cable that a lot of households in the 80s could afford. Especially in the early 1980s. Compared to Muppets and Sesame which was on free channels. Coupled with the fact JHC hasnt truly done anything in the public eye with the property...hard to see how they will be able to market this.
  8. Iscah

    Iscah Well-Known Member

    I think, basically, they don't sell it as "a Fraggle Rock movie", they sell it like a stand-alone film (even if it does keep series continuity) and get people excited about it because it looks good.
  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Which is, I'm sure, a huge part of the reason why the movie hasn't been made yet. Sesame Street is instantly recognizable and still on the air going on 46 years. The way SW has been totally promoting Cookie Monster to Elmo levels of media absorption has been amazing. The Muppets are slightly less recognizable, having to rely on older movies and TV shows, and I'm sure some of the resistance to MMW was that they have 7 movies other than that. But it doesn't quite have the presence that SW has.

    Then there's FR. It's never not been cable connected, unless you want to count the cartoon series. Even the reruns went to cable channels of varying levels of accessibility. Even the Hulu episodes require premium hulu pay accounts. Only way for anyone under the age of 30 to have gotten any exposure now was the long ended Hub reruns and DVDs. A film based on something kind of obscure is a hard one to sell to anyone. Especially the studios.

    Of course, what baffles me is how Yogi Bear managed to get an audience of not 40 year olds (who would have been disgusted enough to not want to see it) when the character hasn't been in anything of note since that even worse than the dishwater dull movie could have been Yo Yogi series. He was far from accessible. Like the pop culture osmosis spread the name of Yogi Bear, and people of a certain age only know him through parody and reference. I mean, Marmaduke thankfully flopped because it was a piece of turd based on a piece of turd comic that was never funny not even in the early 70's when people kinda cared. And then there's Lone Ranger. Overly politically correct 20 somethings that angrily snarked all over the film because they didn't bother to do the research that the Tonto character was insane, and I think just got mad that Johnny Depp said he was 0.0000000000009% percent something aside... they took a character that wasn't relevant since the 50's and anyone under the age of "waaaay too old to see blockbusters and get any enjoyment out of them" only heard of the character through reference and parody.
  10. Iscah

    Iscah Well-Known Member

    With "starting from scratch" to appeal to a new audience, especially kids, I feel like the Fraggles have more potential than the Muppets. They're designed to be cute and likeable, whereas the Muppets are a bit ragged and strange. (I vaguely remember, being really young and used to Muppet Babies, first seeing stuff with the 'adult' puppets and thinking they looked ugly.) Different styles for different audiences, even if they're now trying to sell the Muppets as "kids entertainment" anyway....
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    If the Fraggle Rock movie were to at least appeal to the parents that grew up with FR to take their kids it would have needed to have been made when it was first announced. It's not that it's entirely impossible that kids can get into something from just the movie without the nostalgic context or any other projects to familiarize them with. But it's an uphill battle that's higher on the end of risk than reward. The first Smurfs movie somehow made money and propped the franchise up (though they ran the show on Boomerang and released kid friendly DVD's at the time). That lead to the first reprint of English Smurf comics in years. Second one flopped, haven't seen a Papercutz volume ever since.

    Somehow Peabody and Sherman was a kind of draw for kids, but it didn't exactly make back its budget domestically. Not much more internationally either, as the cartoon its based on is deeply American. But it did better than all the other Jay Ward based movies. Probably combined.

    So a FR movie may just get lucky and introduce kids to the characters, which I have no doubt is the goal of the movie.
  12. Iscah

    Iscah Well-Known Member

    I just thought - there is one other old series that has made a comeback: My Little Pony. And although I haven't got around to watching more of it, the first two episodes gave me the impression that it's quite similar (at a basic level) to FR - cute, colourful creatures, exploring a magical world, occasionally bursting into song.... if we could get that fandom crowd on board, we'd be all set.

    DARTH MUPPET Well-Known Member

    This kind of reminds me of Jason Segel Writing Producing and Acting In the Muppets, and supposedly Joseph Gordon Levett is a huge Fraggle Rock/Muppets fan !
  14. superboober

    superboober Well-Known Member

    I think the best way for them to go might be as with Wrath of Khan and do an extension to an existing episode of the original series. For example: recall if you will that, after revealing to the Gorgs they'd been hoodwinking them about Sir Hubris returning, Wembley asides to Gobo what would happen when the real Sir Hubris returns. What about a story where he DID in fact come back and reclaim the Universe? And, whether accidentally or on purpose, things get thrown out of whack in the Fraggles and Gorgs' world because of it? Thus, our heroes would have to go on a quest to set things back in balance, which includes a trip into Outer Space to get something to help set it right? And with the T. Matthew Fraggle Room available for use, that's an easy skirting of Doc's workshop if so desired (perhaps make a joke of sorts with it too, with them repeatedly getting the wrong tunnels, despite Traveling Matt's insistence he knows where each and every one leads, until finally finding the right one to Outer Space by accident)

    DARTH MUPPET Well-Known Member

    I'll Be honest I haven't seen Fraggle Rock since the 1980's I don't remember any of the story lines?

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