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Miss Piggy on UK TV

Discussion in 'Muppet Appearances' started by jusnic, Oct 25, 2007.

  1. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Oh I know, I know. I've seen it. I guess they were always of the opinion that a happy marriage just doesn't hold interest...but think of all the interesting things they 'could' have done...like...Figs! I guess their relationship was always quite rocky, so it was always going to end on the rocks...

    Bea:zany:{As in, "I'll have a martini, on the rocks...}regard
  2. Piggy and Kermit have never really had a "relationship" of that kind, not in any of the original movies or The Muppet Show at least. The writers played with the ideas a little and made it clear that they cared about each other but that's as far as it ever went while Jim Henson was around. Most of the relationship idea was formed in Piggy's head and we only ever hear that things are well between them from her. Kermit has never admitted to a relationship, even from when Piggy was introduced back in the mid 70s. He used to flirt with the female guest stars and she with the male guest stars. Kermit even flirted with some of the other Muppet characters in fornt of Piggy. Remember Miss Mousey or Annie Sue Pig? He even forced Gonzo onto her when he purposely made her think he [Kermit] was interested in her.
    The Piggy and Kermit thing has been going on for as long as most of us have been alive.
  3. Don't think of it ending on the rocks because it can't. If they stopped producing Muppet shows or movies now and Piggy and Kermit were never shown again, the story would end as it is. What happens next would be up to each person and their own mind. We only have this story because the writters have written it that way. They are only make believe characters with no life outside of what we see and hear about them. Kermit could get blown up, die and still be "alive" straight afterwards like nothing had happened. I think the writers just want to make it interesting and the idea that they settle down and live happily ever after doesn't excite them. If theat did happen, what then? There are only so many ways they could (realistically) take the story before people decided things were getting too far fetched or before the characters lost all sense of reality that they have built up over the years. The writers have to keep it real. Think about it, how many puppet characters, except for Muppet ones, get interviews in their own right, without the puppeteer and get treated as if they are living, breathing life forms?
  4. How many family shows have lasted as long as The Muppets? Most British shows last a few seasons and American shows a few seasons more then they end. We get re-runs and the complete season box-sets and thats all. The Muppets having ANY impact on todays entertainment market with new programs, movies or appearances is still pretty impressive. I agree that they have since lost their spark but I don't think it's time to write them off altogether. Let's see how this new series (if it really does come to light) pans out.
  5. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    Miss Piggy appeared on 25 years of the Bafta Awards (pre-recorded i think) tonight in the UK. She did a sketch with Sharon Osbourne.
  6. Muppet Loverr

    Muppet Loverr Member

    Can someone recored it and post it on Youtube so people can watch it in the US. PLZ
  7. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Oh my gosh! Piggy and Shaon Ozbourne? How could I miss the worlds most famous Diva mixing with TV's most currant diva? I love Piggy, I love Sharon! What did they have to say to one another?
  8. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    I only saw the first part as i had to go out. Piggy was revealed on the stage sitting on her own sofa, Sharon then appeared and sat next to Piggy talking about how they were both big divas. Piggy didn't seem to think Sharon could compare to her and apparently ended up giving her the hiiiiiiii-yaaaaaaaa!

    If you do a search on The Sun newspaper site i think there is a showbiz article with a nice photo.
  9. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    I saw the picture. It looks gorgious. And, naturally, Sharon can't quite compare to de pig...who can?
  10. Not sure she'd like to hear you say that! :p
    Her husband did a duet with Piggy a few years back and he worked with Kermit on The Party At The Palace thing for The Queen's Jubilee.
  11. Craig Crane

    Craig Crane New Member

    I saw Piggy on the Bafta show.

    Voice was way off

    Puppeteering looked like it was suffering due to space restrictions under the set

    Timing was very poor. A very bad opening to an equally poor show.

    A shadow of the genius that was the original Parky / Piggy interview.

    Sad to see.
  12. The thing was, when Piggy (and Kermit) did Parkinson, Frank and Jim were very much on display. It was a much more natural and comfortable performance. That was the good thing about when Jim did Kermit. He never really minded about being shot while performing Kermit on a talk show or whatever. Kermit once quipped "the truth of the matter is that the frog is a great deal more interesting to look at, and who notices what the bearded man is doing?". You rarely see the Muppet and the performer in the same shot nowadays.
  13. Harvey Towers

    Harvey Towers Active Member

    Talking of photos of Sharon I have a third cousin who took the photograph for the front cover of her autobiography, but that's incidental...

    Saw the Loose Women and BAFTA appearances, but much more interesting I think is a fifteen minute long "Muppet Show Exclusive" promoting the Muppet Show Series 2 shown on Film 24 earlier today (Sky Digital Channel 158) and repeated tonight at 9.30pm and possibly at other times over the coming days as well.
  14. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    Agreed Craig, i commented to someone at the time how off the voice was. Nice to see you back, i'm a big fan of your work.

    Hope someone can get this Film24 special online!
  15. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    Yet another UK appearance, over 2,000 views for this already, great considering its not from a TV appearance people would have tried to look up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtGYxlePWyE

    and another one, some behind the scenes clips on this -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rotFcrV4JXU

    and if anyone hasn't seen it yet, here's L&K Today - (whoever directed this, way too many wide shots giving away the puppeteering)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HwVmQG6bgM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8L4xlAlrJU

    Voice seems a bit better in the first one, character still a little off. Still great to see Piggy absolutely everywhere these past weeks in the UK. She went down really well!
  16. MuppetDanny

    MuppetDanny Well-Known Member

  17. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    I was delighted to see Piggy on the Children in Need telethon last week, just in a small guest spot where she said "Give us lots of money!" (Orlando Bloom had a similar spot later on.)
  18. Craig Crane

    Craig Crane New Member

    I think, looking at all those clips, that the biggest issue with whoever is performing the pig these days is "timing". There appears to be no flow in the performance... almost as if it were "piggy by numbers"...

    Its a real shame... because even the presenters at the press junket looked bored.

    Check out Kevin Clash on the Arsinio hall show in the early 90's with Clifford and you will see what a live Muppet performance should be like... Piggy just comes across like a poor drag act... where as with with Frank she had fire and balls.

    I suppose its really all targeted at a new audience (blah blah blah) who don't really know or appreciate the original performances and Di$ney can just get away with diluting the brand until its water thin. In effect, they have turned the Muppet's into a product that holds the same amount of appeal as Lilo and Stitch 9. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Not sure who's running things over there these days but they should really take a step back and ask themselves "Is this as good as it could be? Are we doing all we can? What can we do to make it better?"
  19. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    Puppet Heap are building them these days i think. I agree about Piggy, its not just the stiff performance, the puppet looks off, she was doing Piggy-ish soundbytes but didn't really have much character to her. Was this even Eric doing her? I can't spot the voices that well but i just wondered if someone else is doing her for some reason. Eric puts in way better performances than this, and has better timing. That Piggy puppet looked a bit like the one they made for the French Muppet Show that got cancelled, i wonder if they decided to re-use those puppets for any future European appearances.
  20. Craig Crane

    Craig Crane New Member

    See, this is how long I have distanced myself from the Henson thing....... I didnt even know about Puppet Heap.

    Looking at their gallery, they seem competant enough but all I have to say (albeit almost 2 years after the fact.......) ... ah, it looks like the forum actually doesnt allow me to use multiple bad words begining in F...

    I know the Muppet workshop is now called the Puppet Workshop.... but this is just too weird. I have visions of Brian, Lisa, Jane et al sat at home, shaking their heads, rocking forward and back.... asking "What have we done? What have we done?"

    I have already sold a load of Muppet stuff such as my crew jacket and Jerry Juhls seat back... I think the rest has to go now as well. Signed scripts, books and other stuff. I may keep the few pics I have from the Kevin Clash workshop in 93, but that's about all... the rest is all just worthless fluff now. If the Hensons can get away with selling of the heir-looms I guess I can too.

    The Piggy Performance and EPK footage has really left a bitter taste... almost betrayal. Its the Di$ney machine at its worst... the passion has gone, and all that's left are flow charts, marketing strategies and quota's. They have access to the great body of work from back in the day, and appear to be pillaging it without actually looking forward.

    Looks like the rainbow just got disconnected.


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