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People Who've Remade Their Own Work

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by D'Snowth, Oct 4, 2012.

  1. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    The recent release of Tim Burton's remake of his own work (Frankenweenie) has gotten me to realizing that there's actually a lot of people out there who actually remake their own work over the years... cases in point, as discussed in its appropriate thread in the General Discussion board, Ross Bagdasarian, Jr. & Janice Karman have been doing remakes every two years Alvin and The Chipmunks; Sid & Marty Krofft have been talking for years about remaking a lot of their old shows, but have so far only done a remake of Land of the Lost (though apparently a Lidsville remake is currently in the works with DreamWorks); and even reading through Muppet Wiki the other night, it's been suggested that Jim wanted to do a revamp of TMS, though of course he had already died by the time MT came into fruition; Frank remade one of his movies a few years after the original, only with a more American cast since the original had a more British cast; and I guess I shouldn't even get started on what George Lucas has been doing with Star Wars...

    Do you wonder why exactly people do this? Speaking for myself, I can think of a few reasons... for instance, perhaps one reason was they weren't entire pleased with their work to begin with, and wanted to see if they could try to make it better... OR, maybe (might be the case with Frankenweenie), maybe they wanted to see how their work would do in a different medium than what was original done, such as one of my "in the vault" puppet sitcom concepts is actually based on a cartoon I did about ten years ago.

    Just a thought.
  2. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    Speaking of Tim Burton, I would have preferred to see Vincent remade instead of Frankenweenie. The original had a campy, old horror movie feel to it. The new one just looks...I dunno. I can't judge it since I haven't seen it, but the commercials seem to be missing something that made the original cute...and funny.
  3. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Trailers are one to do that. I've seen trailers that just took the dumbest parts of the movie (lowest common denominator stuff), and never actually tell what the plot of the film actually is. Look at how they marketed Brave. There wasn't even a small hint of the mother daughter storyline. It almost seems like the father was disapproving of the daughter's behavior, they way they cut it together.

    As for stop motion remakes. That's obvious. Stop motion Beetlejuice. or a sequel!
  4. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    Musically, a lot of fifties rockers, like Chuck Berry and Little Richard put out re-recorded versions of their early hits in the sixties and seventies, and it's a trend recently for washed-up artists to put out "new" versions of their classic hits. Lionel Ritchie just put out an album of "country" versions of his hits.
  5. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Why do they do it?

    1. Money.
    2. Money.
    3. Oh yeah they are sometimes more critical of their work than the general public is and think things need to be rectified.
    4. Money. :D
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  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    While you are right that there are those that do it for money, there is quite a bit of that as well. I CAN'T believe no one thought of a certain VERY obvious example given this fan site...

    Now, granted... the song wasn't Henson's to begin with, but he was the one who came up with the 2 characters singing in harmony being interrupted aspect.

    It's not so much he's remaking those movies as he's adding things and changing things he thinks he wants changed. And it isn't a matter of money in that case so much as it's old man perfectionism. It isn't money, that is, because having the original films unaltered as they were, only with the obligatory clean up to preserve the film's audio/visual integrity would arguably make more money.

    And...oh... Star Wars wasn't exactly all his
  7. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Well it becomes about money when changes like that become excuses for the next DVD or Blu Ray.

    Not to sound jaded, but money is pretty much always in the picture somewhere. That doesn't make them all bad people, that's just the way the business goes.
  8. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    Amazingly, one guy is actually giving a proper remastering of the OT that even includes changes to correct technical and continuity problems, as well as to make it fall more in line with the prequels (which will be almost entirely unrecognizable themselves). He's also producing "purist" versions with almost none of those changes.

  9. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    It should be the other way around, hehe.
  10. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Well, in the case of Mahna Mahna, is that really so much remaking it as it is trying it out for different productions?
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    A little bit of both, but he's pretty much out of it and in his own little world. The sad thing is, other people have proven that the problem is indeed him, as everyone who touches the Star Wars franchise at this point (even Lego) has done a better job than the last 3 movies. Even Detours looks better.

    Yes and no... seems that he hit the perfect version when it hit The Muppet Show. Meanwhile, the Sesame Street one is boring by comparison.
  12. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Has anyone seen the Frankenweenie remake? How does it compare to the original? Based on the previews and trailers, it almost looks a far more complex production with a lot more secondary characters making up the cast.
  13. Ignatz

    Ignatz Well-Known Member

    I think it can be part that they are not completely happy with how the original worked it either because of executive meddling, low funds or inexperience. Even Alfred Hitchcock did it, remaking his 1934 film The Man Who Knew Too Much in 1956 with James Stewert and Doris Day (the film which brought us 'Que Sera, Sera'). He said this about the two films "Let's say the first version is the work of a talented amateur and the second was made by a professional".
  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'm going to have to wait on it... but I just cannot resist stop motion animation in any form. Three stop motion films in a year, in an industry dominated by CGI. That's one of the best things that's ever happened in a long time.
  15. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Definitely agree that the remake is more polished and professional. But the original has Peter Lorre, can't beat that! ;)
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  16. newsmanfan

    newsmanfan Well-Known Member

    "Evil Dead II" is basically a remake with a better budget (and some new, clever gags) of the original, by the same crowd as the first (Raimi, Tapert, Campbell, etc). I don't mind stuff like that. I didn't see the original "Frankenweenie" but the new version looks wonderful, best I can tell (won't be able to see until it comes out on dvd...yo tengo no dinero).

    I honestly can't think of anything I'd like to see remade at all. The things I like, I tend to like for their originality as much as anything else. Wouldn't change that for the world.
  17. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I've got the original FW on tape somewhere... I KNOW I have to have it somewhere, because I believe it's also on one of my old Classic SST tapes...

    It's a pretty good and clever little twist on the classic Frankenstein story, and it features a VERY young, clean-shaven, almost unrecognizable Danny Stern. XD
  18. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    You're welcome
  19. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    If Sgtfloyd didn't post it, Frankenweenie is usually on special edition Nightmare Before Christmas DVD's. I saw it once, and I remember enjoying it on the small budget parody B-movie student film level, but the new movie looks much more interesting and engaging being stop motion. Seriously... I'll watch Bob the Builder's older episodes with great delight. I have that much a stop motion bias. It's harder than it looks, and it looks impossible. I've tried it. After accidentally moving the table the 20th time after starting over after 2 frames of animation, you get a greater appreciation for those things.
  20. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Oh yeah, I remember that movie! I did enjoy it back in the day, I'm a sucker for dog stories, lol.

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