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Discussion in 'Muppet Replicas' started by Beauregard, Dec 26, 2006.
I think what would be nice and what every Muppet fan cannot go without is a Barry Lee photo replica.
Mwohahahah! Totally. And some realistic Muffins would be nice...or a replica Bill...
I'd hope that Fozzie would be next - his size is really the only factor that I can see creating difficulties (and I'd be happy to accept a waist up poser if it was the only way to get him). While Rizzo, Pepe or even Scooter would be more economical, I worry that going with the lesser known, more fan favourite characters the line will not survive long enough to get the core characters...even having Animal as the third poser worries me for that very reason.
Agreed. Though to some degree he is the Muppet everyone outside of fan-dom remembers "That crazy drum guy!" There are so many Muppets I'd rather spend my money on than him. In fact, I wouldn't get him myself at all if it wasn't for watching complete sets.
Someone else that should be made is the Swedish Chef! His hands shouldn't present a problem since his posers always had foam-hands. But he would be brillient for posing with fruits, and vegetables, cutlary, etc. Endless easily accesable props for him.
Though I fear I'll never see him made, I want Pepe. He just makes the newer muppet movies.
I WISH the next one would be Piggy, from IAVMMCM. not saltine, but normal.
I had the oppertunity to email Terry and he is working on Fozzie as we speak. He has to do three of them for MR. So far he has the head and the foam body done for him. He also said that he is pretty happy with the head he has done. Right now, he is having trouble dying the fur for Fozzie, and he cannot find the right type of fur for him since they do not make that type of fur like they did in the 70's. He did say that him and a friend will be working on Piggy after they are done with Fozzie. Terry said that "Puppet Heap" will not let them use the mold's for Piggy so that will be a obsticle they will have to work out. Terry said that when he is ready, he will have pictures to show everyone when it is ok with Travis to show them. I think they will do just fine when they are up for pre-order for next year. Like I said, if they can do a three foot Falcon for almost 3G's, I am sure that Fozzie and Piggy are not any different. Anything is possible with Master Replicas!
I forgot.....Fozzie will be a full body poser!
Best news I've heard in a long time!
I forgot, how long is the liscense? We have Kemrit, Animal, Gonzo, Fozzie, and Piggy. How many more Replicas are we going to get and when will it end? Not that I want it to end, but it just has too sometime. I'd like to see Scooter, Rowlf, Rizzo, & Pepe get made before the line's up. I think Camilla would even be pretty sweet!
I actually find that really strange - since the character and likeness of Miss Piggy is owned by Disney rather than Puppet Heap, I would not have thought they would be in a position to refuse the molds if Disney wanted MR to have them. I'm not saying that you or Terry are wrong (when it comes to MR Muppets Terry's definiately one very cool guy to talk to) but it just seems an odd thing that they could say "no" to. If it were a new character they'd created for the Muppets then maybe I could see them retaining some sort of copyright over the patterns, but this is an established character, with an established shape.
Is there anyone with more information on this?
If they make a Rowlf I will cry, because there's no way I can afford these. Much as I like Kermit, Gonzo and Fozzie, I can deal with replicas of them being out there without my being able to afford them. But knowing there was actually a Rowlf replica out there, but unattainable for me due to my lack of funds would be downright painful for me. I want him to be made, but I know I could never afford him if he was, and that kinda makes me sad.
It will explain it here:
Go to News and it says this:
February 1, 2006
Puppet Heap is pleased to report that we have officially sealed the deal to take on the task of servicing the Muppets and “Bear in the Big Blue House” for Muppets Studio, the division of the Walt Disney Company that now produces the Muppets. Not only is this a great honor to play small part in the history of these treasured characters, but for some of us it represents an opportunity to return to work we had thought long since left behind.
So Puppet Heap is the new Muppet Workshop.
Yeah I saw that, but it still doesn't explain why they are able to refuse to share the molds with MR.
My guess is that the molds are owned by Puppet Heap even though the character is owned by Disney. Piggy is an intellectual property while the molds are physical property that took money to make. Disney pays for the services of Puppet Heap and may even own the actual puppets, but not the tools used to make them. Now if Disney buys Puppet Heap, that's different.
Disney really aren't making the effort, are they? Why buy the rights to characters that they have no way of reproducing themselves?
As far as popular characters, in the UK Kermit, Piggy and Animal adorn mugs, t-shirts and posters more than any of the other characters. Fozzie and Gonzo get included every so often too but not many of the characters get a look in unless its a large group shot. I think Animal being the next replica is a sound financial idea. Gonzo and Fozzie next, then probably Piggy. Anybody's guess is as good for after that!
I guess that's the only thing that makes sense - although it seems a funny loop for Disney not to have closed. Many companies place a clause in their contracts with contractors and employees that they (the company) will own both the intellectual and physical results of labour done for that company. I guess I'm just trying to work out why they would share the patterns for the foam and fleece characters, but not the mold for Piggy.
Not that it matters, of course...I'm just always intrigued by these behind-the-scenes wranglings.
Who knows why, and like i said it's only a guess. It's possible that the patterns were bought by Disney from the Jim Henson Company but Puppet Heap actually made the piggy molds themselves. The patterns are more intellectual property while the molds are something Puppet Head made themselves.
There's more than one way to get a Piggy head mold. Let's just say that Puppet Heap's refusal won't be an impediment to making a replica.
Hey if Keeermit can do a fantastic job of doing Piggy's head out of Antron Fleece and not foam, I am sure anything is possible. I think he did a incredible job of recreatiing her with different material.
Did he say the price rage with Miss Piggy? Thet should be albe to use mold, Piggy isn't owned by Puppet Heap
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