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Segments that were possibly taped on the same day

Discussion in 'Classic Sesame Street' started by minor muppetz, Dec 28, 2009.

  1. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I don't think we've ever had a thread like this before... One that disucsses segments that could have and probably were made on the same day. This is probably true about many inserts using recurring sketches and sets... The performers and puppets are already there, and the sets are already set-up, and the characters are in the right costumes, so that'd make sense.

    It seems like many sketches featuring children were doen on the same day, evident by how the kids dress and the backgrounds. Most of John-John's segments that we know about were probably taped on the same day, considering that most of them show John-John in the same red (or is it orange?) shirt, the same blue background, and they feature John-John interracting with characters performed by either Frank Oz or Jerry Nelson (mainly Bert, Grover, and Herry... and one featured both Bert and Sherlock). It's been said that John-John has been a regular kid visitor, but I don't know of many John-John inserts using different sets or with him in different outfits. I know he appeared on the street in the episode where Mr. Hooper studied for night school (though judging by the pictures at Muppet Wiki his outfit wasn't too different... Just a long-sleeved red shirt as opposed to a short-sleeved one). The 40th anniversary book also has an image of Kermit interviewing John-Jon outdoors, John-John dressed in winter clothes (I wonder if that one was made the same day as Kermit's interview with a girl about animal sounds).

    I also feel convinced that Monsterpeice Theater: Me, Claudias, Me Lost Me Cookie at the Disco, and We're All Monsters were mad eon the same day. All of the background monsters in me Lost Me Cookie were in either Me, Claudias or We're All Monsters (or both, in the case of Elmo and Harvey). Cookie Monster was in two of these mentioned sketches as well, and in both Me, Claudias and We'e All Monsters, Harvey and Elmo have the same performers. Sets and costumes would have had to be changed, and I don't know how long those changes would normally take (I often wonder how loing it normally takes to dress or change a puppets clothes). And all of those sketches are from season 11 (and I guess another sketch that would have been done the same day would have been the monsters singign "Near and Far", as that has the same mosnters and background as "We're All Monsters").

    I would also expect both "Kermit News: Sleeping Beauty" sketches to have been filmed in the same day. They both had the same sets, and the same anything muppet designs for Prince Charming and Sleeping Beauty (though Prince Charming's facial expressions are somewhat different in both), and obviously they are both from the same season judging by the look of Kermit and his dark brown hat.

    And obviously many celebrities who appeared in multiple isnerts in the same seasons did it all in one day. They were often on the same sets in the same outfits, and they wore different outfits if they returned in later seasons.
  2. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I'm pretty sure the segments featuring Prairie Dawn lecturing about the letter and number of the day with the help (sort of) of the Big Bad Wolf was taped the same day as the episode they were featured in (#3979, part four of the hurricane saga), as BBW is wearing his "Huff, Puff and Puff Construction" sweater in those segments that he was wearing during the street scenes, inspecting Big Bird's new doors.
  3. JLG

    JLG Member

    There's a bunch of Muppet/kid segments on YouTube that were clearly shot on the same day, apparently in 1970 or '71. (It's still the grayish, flat-headed Cookie puppet) They all have the same brick wall and the same orange background, and they're shot from the exact same angle. One has Grover talking to a particularly sharp little kid named Brian, one has Cookie counting cookies backwards (as he gobbles them up one by one) with a girl, there's another one where Cookie's talking to David (a little black boy who appeared in a bunch of inserts around that time) and I can't think of the others at the moment.

    In fact, it's possible those were also shot the same day as the skit where Cookie can't tell which of the three buildings in the distance say "School" because "Monster cannot read." Same orange background and same wall.
  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I swear 90% of season 40 was shot on the same day...

    ducks...
  5. ssetta

    ssetta Active Member

    I can actually think of a LOT.

    For once, there was this sketch with Cookie Monster looking at 3 buildings, and trying to figure out which one was the school. He went up to the building and pulled off the "school" sign so he could read it. There was another sketch with him and this kid reading the word "school" but it was the exact same sign!

    I also think that Kermit's 1974 version of "Bein' Green", the sketch where he talks about the Horse & Cart with Grover, and "City/Country" song were all on the same day, since all 3 of those used part of that same set. Though I think that set was used a lot in other sketches, with the corn rows or whatever, and then the barn over on the other side.

    I also noticed there were these 2 sketches from Season 9 that used the same set. One of them is the "G" song with a guy and a girl singing and dancing in the woods, and the other was the "Cookie Bunny" sketch with Ernie and Cookie Monster. They both had the same grass set with a few daffodils, and an orange sky in the background. I also remember a sketch with Kermit and Grover talking about the number 2, which featured the same AMs who sang the G song!

    There was also the city street set that the "Born to Add" sketch took place on. It looked very similar to the 123 Sesame Street Brownstone, and I remember a sign that said "Sunny's Laundry." Super Grover and the Empty Box was shot there, the song "Take My Hand" was, and so were a lot of others.

    Another thing to point out, is that I think a lot of the songs are recorded differently than when they film the sketch. I know that a lot of songs from Season 11 were recorded on 1/13/79. So that must have been a day that a lot of people were in the studio. And Chris Cerf wrote, and even sang on a lot of those songs (including "Born to Add"). Also recorded on that day were: "D Du-ah Du-ah", "The Dirtiest Town in the West," "Baby's Life", "You're Alive," and I'm sure there were others, but those are the ones I know about.
  6. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I haven't seen those sketches, but I'd consider them an honarary two-part sketch, and I assume all parts of every multi-part sketch would have been shot on the same day.
  7. ssetta

    ssetta Active Member

    Good point. They actually WERE both seen in the same episode once; Episode 514, where Stevie Wonder visits the Street. It was on Unpaved.
  8. StreetScenes

    StreetScenes Member

    i don't know if this is from a segment or anything, but in the picture on the title page of chapter 3 of louise gikow's book, the whole cast is wearing the same clothes as they wear in What's the Name of That Song.
  9. JLG

    JLG Member

    More Muppet/kid:
    There are five or six sketches of Ernie and Bert in their apartment with Shola (Shola Lynch, who appeared in "20 Years and Counting" with Kermit and later became the director of the documentary "Chisolm '72). They were all clearly shot the same day.
    Here's the best one:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FHFUPkaqnA&feature=fvw
  10. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I noticed it seems like for a period in the early and mid 80s that the cast wore the same outfits for multiple street scenes and inserts.
  11. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Maybe it's me but it seems like Luis wore the same orange shirt in both episodes 406 and 536.
  12. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    For years I figured the skecthes where Bert and Ernie go to egypt and the jungle, respectively, based solely on the fact that they wore explorers hats and jackets in both sketches. But then I watched recently, and noticed that while the explorers clothes were the same, the puppets were different in both sketches. Maybe new puppets were built while older ones were being used, but even then I wouldn't expect them to use one set of puppets and then put the jackets/hats on the other set of puppets in the same day (I wonder how much trouble it takes to change a Muppet). I guess it might be possible that maybe one of the puppets wore out or something and a repalcement was needed, but could that happen to both on the same day?
  13. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I used to assume that all four People in Your Neighborhood segments from the first season were shot on the same day, since they all feature Bob. Only three of those four have surfaced so far, but in addition to Bob being in them all, they all feature the same Anything Muppets (Fat Blue and Pumpkin), and they all feature Jim Henson (as the fat blue one) and Frank Oz (as the pumpkin AM), with the same voices (though they very easily could have switched puppets or changed voices). But as I watched the three that have shown up, I noticed that Bob's shirt is different in all three of them. Would it have been odd if they had Bob change shirts for multiple segments shot on the same day? Of course they would have had to take the time to change clothing on the Anything Muppets (though the fat blue one wears the same outfit in two different sketches, whether he's a postman or a garbage man).
  14. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I wonder if the sketch where Ernie cleaned the apartment in 15 seconds was shot the same day as the one where Ernie and Cookie Monster plan to trick Bert by having Ernie ask if a monster plays the flute when a bell rings. In both segments, Bert is wearing a watch, something he doesn't normally wear. It makes sense in the cleaning segment because he's timing Ernie. So I think either they were shot on the same day, or they forgot to take Bert's watch off right after taping that sketch.
  15. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I've often wondered if the first three "Bert and Ernie at the movies" segments were shot on the same day. The "loud and soft" and "lady with tall hat" segments both have many of the same extra background characters, though in different seats, while the "emotions" one has mostly different additional characters, so maybe that one was shot on a different date than the other two. But now I think those earlier "at the movies" segments were shot on the same day as the Sesame Street News segment where Kermit asks people what makes them angry. Most of the characters in that segment (whether they get lines or not) are also movie theater customers, most of whom are anything muppets with the same clothes and facial features. Grover appears in the News segment and at least one of the movie theater ones (wouldn't it have been something if Kermit was at the movies with Ernie and Bert?).

    I believe all the characters from that particular news segment (except for Kermit) is a customer in one or both of the movie theater segments, while most of the theater customers are in the news segment (only Bert, Ernie, the usher, and the lady with the tall hat are absent from the news segment).


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