Snoop Doggy Dog (The Degenerate)

[beaker]

>>>A deviant lifestyle and life of crime is why one joins the CRIPS. <<<

What is this, 1988? *brings back memories of Metroid, NWA gangsta rap tapes, and ALF reruns*


>>>Anyhow, that's probably enough to get my point across. All of the above mentioned biblical examples were redeemable.<<<

I hate to say this, but I think due to the mostly disturbing nature of bibles...be it the Torah, Qur'an, or Testament...excerpts from said scripture dont belong on here. No wonder so many wars have been fought over these words. If the bible were truly be made into a movie word for word, its be NC-17.

>>>Don't get me started. Think of the Rightwing Religious zealots that kill people so there won't be abortions. And the same people who love their fellow man... only if he is white, strait, rich, and male. And don't get me started about oter religions, and Suicide bombers. Trust me! I'll never stop.<<<

Heh, well I swore 4 years ago after the whole "Odyssey" debate on the old MC, I wouldnt get involved in this debate.
But yes, fundamentalists and extremists have really done a doozy on the idea of religions. But when youre introduced from birth to a faith its hard to know anythign else.

My idea on religion? Its silly, because it is ALL geographic.
If you were born in the middle east youd be Muslim...Israel youd be Jewish. India youd be Sikh or Hindu, etc. So people who really stand behind their religion, are primarily doing so due to basic geographic happenstance for the most part. As far as people complaining about Christain fundamentalists in America. Just be glad you dont live in Israel or surrounding middle eastern countries. There, religion and life is so intertwined its enought to make your head explode. Here in the states, you can chose on your own what faith you want to adhere to, be it Judaism, Christianity and its billions of offshoots, Buddhism, Islam, etc.

 

[tomahawk]

NC-17???? TRY XXX!!

 

[Drtooth]

To Pat E.

Never in my life, have I seen anyone say, "man! I just heard a Snoop Dog song! Now I want to deal drugs and kill people."

Why the heck are you idiot censors screaming if any kind of program that may be Juveniley attractive, while so much other show boarder on pornography?

I mean, come on! I don't think a little five year old will watch this (if they didn't pull it) and say....WOW!!! I wanna be a gansta too! I wanna deal drugs because some guy on TV has songs about it!

Maybe you should spend more time picketing Jerry Springer and Jenny Jones than Ren and Stimpy, the Simpsons, and the Muppets.

Get a clue!!!

 

[Skeeter Muppet]

Oh, and Patty, I think if you don't start answering people's questions, neither you, nor your points will be taken very seriously.

*snorts* What makes you think we're taking her seriously now? Well, those of us who have been replying as of late, that is.

But you do have a valid point. It makes me wonder whether or not she even cares what the rest of us think, whether we agree with her or not.

-Kim

 

[Patty E.]

Where is the article or interview where Calvin AKA "Snoop" dissociates himself from the CRIPS? Most gang members die on the street or in prison. If he has separated himself from that loser lifestyle then he should be proud. Imagine the contribution he could make for children "at risk" if in fact he renounced that nonsense.

Respectfully,
Patty E.

 

[EmmyMik]

I have been reading this thread, and it's pretty silly to see how some people sound very much like Sam the Eagle. I had to blink a few times.

But if an artist shouldn't work with the Muppets just because they have written songs about drugs and sex, or they have used drugs in the past is silly. I'm sure that there would only be a handful of episodes of The Muppet Show.

Take Paul Simon for example. He appeared on Sesame Street a couple of times, as well as the Muppet Show. In the 60's he did drugs. After concerts he and Art Garfunkel would go back to their hotel rooms and smoke pot. It wasn't until around 1970 that he quit doing drugs.

But then there were his song lyrics. Some have references to drugs, sex, crime, suicide, and so on (not all at once, and not as "graphic" as today's songs, but they're still in there).

Honestly, I thought it would have been pretty funny to see Snoop with the Muppets. But I'll never know now...

 

[frogboy4]

Hey, now - Notice to everyone

I think it's going a little too far with the insults and there hasbeen some inflammatory language on both sides here.

I know things are heated on the forum right now but lets not make it personal. This originated as a healthy debate about the Muppet special; there has been no wrongdoing between members but it is definitely heading in that direction.

This is really about difference of opinion, but I can see this getting out of hand quickly. I'm all for a civil debate but lets not lose site that we should respect the opinions of others. Patty certainly did not single-handedly ruin Christmas or make the decision to delete the scene. No individual has that control. That is up to Henson. We are some very passionate Muppet fans indeed!

 

[Patty E.]

Snoop has the distinction of belonging to the Crips, ( a violent and destructive force), he advocates a gang lifestyle, promotes a pimpin' lifestyle. This makes him very different from Guests which have proceeded him.

Respectfully,
Patty E.

 

[beaker]

1. I respect Patty E's opinions...you remember the outright inflamatory things said on that 'Sesame HIV' thread? This aint nothin folks, if ya remember that.

2. Doesnt "Patty E" Sound like a gangsta rapper? Patty, I kid.
(I make a habbit of inane observations, heh)

Patty E has a legitamate concern she raises. Yes it sounds glaringly like the parody Sam the Eagle is suppose to be at time, but out of all the JHC guests Snoop does seem to take the cake in terms of shadyness. I could understand if, say Marilyn Manson was to do the letter of the day on Sesame Street.

JHC has usually gone with PG rappers(ie: Coolio) so its weird theyd go with a washed out rapper. I think they should have gone with Busta Rhymes, as he just seems more Muppety.
(any rapper who references Star Wars in a song is cool beans with me)

Sadly though, I worry if really cool Muppet segments might have been editied out in an effort of JHC to coddle to various outspoken people and censors...or were we saved from an embarassing cameo ala Hulk Hogan in MFS?

 

[frogboy4]

Lets hope there are extras on the DVD! I wonder if they will sell one - this year or next. hopefully they will have the offer in a commercial during the program. A current practice. Maybe some of these extra minutes will be seen by our overseas friends if it gets aired over there.

Would it be the same sort of thing if P. Ditty..or is is Puff Daddy again... appeared. Maybe so, but probably not as much. And Snoop seemed so proud of his work on the Conan O'Brian Show.