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Statler & Waldorf on movies.com

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by jgriffee, Feb 25, 2005.

  1. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Ok. Now I've calmed down a little....

    Yes, I agree it is good that the Muppet's are getting exposure. And better yet, that they were advertising all adult films, not children's.

    However, I felt they laid on the innuendo a little thick. Pepe needing to take a cold shower? Stadler and Waldorf talking about Viagra? This is not the Muppets I know, ok. Land of Gorch, maybe. But not Muppets.

    The voices were definitely off, though Stadler wasn't bad. And Pepe seemed quite good.

    The Puppetry had much to be desired, specially Waldorf.

    The Puppets, I am pleased to say, were up to their usual standards, which makes a change recently.

    The writers, though, don't seem to understand what it is that makes Stadler and Waldorf funny. They seem to be under the impression that the two old gentlemen say anything, and laugh about it. Which was never true on the Muppet show. What they said on the Muppet show was not always funny, but it was funny that they thought it was funny, whereas here:

    "I'm Stadler"

    "And I'm Waldorf"

    "And we're not dead"


    "Oh, ho, ho, ho"

    was not v. funny in my opinion, and even them laughing about it wasn't very funny.

    So, what is the spark that is missing? I am not sure, but I think A. They should be in their proper box. And B. They need better writers.

    Bea:zany:{And those are my thoughts for the day...}regard
  2. christyb

    christyb Well-Known Member

    Even A Bad DVD Makes A Great Coaster....

    All right, time for my two cents.

    1) Voices and Timing: eh.....could be better. But like a few others I'm not quite convinced that it was Steve, Dave, & Bill. Then again the library computers here at the U makes everything sound like Mickey Mouse

    2) Script: Some parts were funny and I chuckled. However, let's cut it out with the innuendos people:mad: !!!!!!!! Let's keep the Muppets, clean and I repeat Clean. Even if a little kid won't understand the joke..I do and I don't like it. Jim Henson wanted to use television for good. Not to spread filth. Let's keep it that way ok?

    3) Publicity: I'm lovin' the fact that it's Statler & Waldorf reviewing. (I mean they're hecklers right) The fact that their face is out there is a good thing. However, let's not cut out the younger audience entirely. Remember the kiddie movies along with the adults.

    All in all I give it :) :) two kermits (if I'm allowed to use the scale). I know you know what sells. But if the Muppets keep going in the heavy innuendo pathway. Unfortunatly they're going to lose some fans. Starting with me.

    FISH'N'WOLFE Well-Known Member

    I can guarantee you it wasn't Goelz, Whitmire or Barretta voicing.
  4. Erine81981

    Erine81981 Well-Known Member

    I know that I can't see it because of something called "IT WON'T DOWNLOAD!" Could someone send it to me so I can download it like a song. I want to see it and It won't let me see it or hear it. I choose one and it won't do anything. Could something be wrong? I hate not getting to see it and have my two cents in this therad. Help me please!

    FISH'N'WOLFE Well-Known Member

    Throw me an e-mail and I'll send it out to you.
  6. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Again, for everyone thinking the Muppets should be squeaky clean sterile fun, might I suggest Sesame Street and Mopatops? or how bout Bear and the Hoobs?
    I don't suggest seeing Kermit on lat enight talk shows, as you'll have to plug your ears. Also, I can see why peopel are glad Disney bought the Muppets, as for the most part they will be keeping th eMuppets as sterile and bland as ever.

    I thought it was the funniest Muppet thing Ive seen in ages, and not once did I even think about the puppeteering or voices. 10/10 for me! Whoever wrote this needs to be hired full time by the Muppets!

    So...I take it youa re not a fan of The Land of Gorch, Very Merry Muppet Christmas, Muppets Tonight and especially the Jim Henson Hour? The Muppets have *ALWAYS* snuck in violence, crass inuendo, etc. It's just now that you're older you pick up on it.

    Anyways, I hope this movies.com thing continues on a weekly basis, and get's even more edgier!
  7. Gusworld

    Gusworld Active Member

    As I've mentioned on here before, nobody outside of the USA would seriously consider the H-word (as we apparently need to refer to it on this forum) to constitute swearing on any level. It's also a given that this kind of review program is going to have more so-called 'adult content' -- after all, many of the movies the pair are reviewing aren't supposed to be seen by young kids either!

    In any event, it's good to see the Muppets being used in a new context. It's true that putting them in host roles changes the S&W dynamic somewhat -- it's impossible for central characters to make jokes all the time, while people who interrupt with gags can do that -- but it still comes across well. Wonder how long they'll keep updating it?

  8. christyb

    christyb Well-Known Member

    You can have adult humor and not get crude. Sure innuedos have always been in there. But you gotta know where to draw the line.
  9. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    My thoughts exactly! There was nothing on the Muppet Show that children couldn't watch, quote, etc. But I wouldn't want little people quoting these Muppets.

    Adult, but not too adult. Draw the line, guys. And make it funny.
  10. Hat Sharpener

    Hat Sharpener Well-Known Member

    The occassional innuendo is cool, but it was the staple of this bit. It just got old IMHO. Seems like there must be other facets of Pepe's personality worth exploring...

    Still, fun to watch!
  11. Oliver

    Oliver Well-Known Member

    I'm with Beauregard 100%.

    I didn't like this at all. Not only were the voices distracting but the pacing was way off and nothing seemed right. It wasn't natural at all. They were trying way too hard and the writing was just awful. Unfunny, out of character and totally miscast. If this is what the studio is aiming for, viagra jokes and contemporary pop culture lampooning, they need to rethink their direction with the franchise cause this is not the essence of the Muppets...

    weak effort.
  12. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Thanks Oliver. I thought I was alone in this ;)
  13. christyb

    christyb Well-Known Member

    That' makes three of us. :)
  14. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    I've been trying to find someplace to e-mail Movies.com about it, tell them a few points I've got on it, how I'd like it to be better. That kind'a thing. Anyone know an e-mail address?
  15. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Well I just hope they don't get any 'content' complaints...we see few enough Muppet stuff as it is, it's not their fault America is still in ultra puritanical mood. Besides, this was done under the supervision *of* Disney, which is currently sterilizing the Muppets as we speak. Let us people with an edgier sense of humor have a bone or two.

    Again, to those who say the Muppets are squeaky clean...lest I remind you the first Muppet Show was called "Sex and Violence", and I cannot even begin to retype some of the themes and show content of the old Land of Gorch skits. Even Jim Henson Hour had some unbelievably racy stuff.

    And yeah, the Pepe being an over libido'd horn dog (I mean prawn!) has been overdone...but it's funny!
  16. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Land of Gorch was quite a different matter to the Muppets.

    But, let's not argue over the issue. Ok?
  17. Gideon

    Gideon Active Member

    Very funny :D :)
  18. Banjo Matt

    Banjo Matt Well-Known Member

    That's too funny!!! I love that kinda stuff....will be dropping again next week ;)
  19. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Folks are complaining about this. That's odd. We're getting new stuff! Weren't we all just complaining that there wasn't anything new out there yet? Catch-22 for The Muppets.

    I think we need to give the transition some time, let the new folks get into their places, work with one another and get that chemistry going good, and then begin to be more critical.

    Gosh, I never thought I would defend something Disney had part in...never would have thought it. Then again, Disney never owned the Muppets either.
  20. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    I knew a new Statler/Waldorf segment a week would be too much for the Diz to handle...(tho it was weird they mentioned reviewing Sahara, which comes out this week)

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