1. Welcome to the Muppet Central Forum!
    You are viewing our forum as a guest. Join our free community to post topics and start private conversations. Please contact us if you need help with registration or your account login.

  2. "Muppet Guys Talking" Debuts On-line
    Watch the inspiring documentary "Muppet Guys Talking", read fan reactions and let us know your thoughts on the Muppet release of the year.

  3. Sesame Street Season 48
    Sesame Street's 48th season officially began Saturday November 18 on HBO. After you see the new episodes, post here and let us know your thoughts.

The Don Bluth Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by D'Snowth, Mar 3, 2012.

  1. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I loved Don Bluth's movies growing up, they were quite the departure from traditional animated features of the time: when most animated movies were all bright and cheerful with happy-go-lucky characters, Bluth's movies were a little darker, with characters that were multi-dimensional, and we actually delved into their personalities and saw what made them tick. At the same time, the animation in his movies was really impressive as well, and quite imaginative.

    Personally, my favorite Don Bluth movie is the under-rated Rock-a-Doodle: I recently watched Nostalgia Critic's review of it, and while I can understand his opinion of the movie, since it really didn't make too much sense, but then again, a majority of the movie was a dream sequence, and dreams don't always make sense, lol. Again, it was just a really imaginative movie, and I liked the overall story, animation, coloring, production designing, etc.

    And has anyone noticed a majority of his movies feature Dom DeLuise voicing the sidekick of the good guy, and Charles Nelson-Reilly voicing the sidekick of the bad guy?
  2. Dominicboo1

    Dominicboo1 Well-Known Member

    Yes! The only Don Bluth movie with otherwise was the underrated a Troll in Central Park where he plays the star. I enjoy all his movies except Titan AE, and Dragon's Lair which to this day I have not seen.
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Honestly, I didn't hold Troll in Central Park too favorably as far as his movies go, but that could be just me.

    One thing I don't understand is... WHY did it take so long for us to get a Land Before Time TV series? After YEARS of direct-to-video cheapquels, didn't it stand to reason they might as well make a TV series off of it?

    And another thing that's interesting is that the screenplays for a few of these movie were written by SST writers Judy Freudberg and Tony Geiss.
  4. Dominicboo1

    Dominicboo1 Well-Known Member

    I don't know. I actually enjoyed them, but I was around 6 at the time so I didn't really know much better.A Troll in Central park is not just your opinion,most others think so but they're all my childhood, with Anastasia which I saw in middle school to a lessre extent.
  5. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    I love Rock a Doodle. Apparently, when I was younger, I would make my mom watch it with me over and over and over when I was sick XD
  6. Dominicboo1

    Dominicboo1 Well-Known Member

    That's so cute! I remebered when I was once at the Doctors office when I was a little boy, I was so excited to see a Patou toy and tried looking for the others, but it was only him.:grr:
  7. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I just read something disturbing that I HOPE is false information... but apparently Don Bluth's second half cousin... is Mitt Romney! :eek:
  8. Dominicboo1

    Dominicboo1 Well-Known Member

  9. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    The Republican presidential hopeful who wants to cut all funding for PBS and turn it into a commercial channel, even going as far as to say, "We're not going to kill Big Bird, but Big Bird has to have advertisements".
  10. Dominicboo1

    Dominicboo1 Well-Known Member

    :mad:He better not!
  11. fuzzygobo

    fuzzygobo Well-Known Member

    I was 18 and in college when American Tail came out, and that movie made me CRY! My heart really bled for Fievel. And at the end seeing him reunited with his family was beautiful. (I'm getting misty-eyed here.)

    It's ironic that Bluth left Disney over creative and artistic differences, but over time Disney came back to compete against him. Every Bluth film had a Disney rival:

    American Tail vs. Great Mouse Detective
    All Dogs Go To Heaven vs. Little Mermaid
    Land Before Time vs. Oliver and Company
    and so on ...
  12. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I also enjoyed Bluth's animation growing up. I particularly like that he tried to steer away from the typical Disney formula. It didn't always work. The stories were hit-or miss, but the animation was always gorgeous and I've left his films playing on mute while I've turned on a music mix. They work remarkably well that way!

    Nothing beats the Secret of Nimh. I'm not sure about the status of the proposed CG remake. It was a book first, but Bluth's telling is so iconic. I just don't see anyone else doing it justice...and in CG.
    Yorick likes this.
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Dragons Lair is a video game. Like certain Sega CD games, that is, where you have to press buttons in a certain succession in relevance to what's happening on the screen. One wrong move, and you have to start over.

    There was a VERY rare DVD-Rom release that had the game edited together to make a movie without having to actually do anything to change the action, but it was impossible to find when it came out, and I can only tell how expensive it is on amazon. I really wanted to see the movie without having to press buttons timed to perfection every 5 seconds.

    Bluth's a genius in my book... but the films that he did in the 90's were, as respectful as I can phrase this, disappointing. Thumbellina was terrible. I only saw that for the Animaniacs short at the beginning. Anastasia was pretty good, but it missed something to it. There's just something very magical about LBT, AT, and especially SON that just didn't come through in those later movies. But I'd blame the studios for that one. They were trying to force the Princess movie on him with those two. So much so that Anastasia has a misconception of being a Disney movie in some circles. Didn't actually see Titan A.E. But that's our American "cartoon movies are for kids" mindset. That totally ravaged Cool World... Ralph Bakshi supposedly punched a studio head in the face for rewriting the script behind his back on that one.

    I long for the day the US gets a home grown animated film for older audiences once again. And I don't mean South Park/Aqua Teen Hunger Force/Beavis and Butt-head type stuff. Something with action and high violence you'd see in a live Action film.
  14. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I actually haven't really seen Anatasia, but I actually wasn't aware it too was a Bluth movie... now it kind of makes sense... as for Thumbellina, I've only seen it once maybe twice, and yeah, it wasn't one of his best (I think the Carol Channing mouse could probably have had a movie all on her own and be better, lol).

    As for Ralph Bakshi, well, somehow these adult animators seem to eccentricity to a whole new level, :laugh:.
  15. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    I did not like Anastasia, mainly for its blatant distortions of history, lol.

    Ralph Bakshi, yeah he's weird, but I love what he did with Lord of the Rings. In some ways it was closer to the books than even the Peter Jackson film.
  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Say what you will about Ralph... he's completely underrated. Crackers, yes.. but underrated. Too bad that his LOTR movie went overbudget and never got a real ending. His version of Mighty Mouse is my absolute favorite... the stories that show has are amazing in and of themselves.
    frogboy4 and CensoredAlso like this.
  17. fuzzygobo

    fuzzygobo Well-Known Member

    Yes, Bakshi's Mighty Mouse was tremendous. It gives a nod to Paul Terry's classics while giving a modern twist. (Have you seen the notorious "flower sniffing" scene?)
    Around the same time he also did the animation for the Rolling Stones' "Harlem Shuffle" which gave a young John K. his big break, and soon he'd unleash Ren and Stimpy on us. :)
    frogboy4 likes this.
  18. Dominicboo1

    Dominicboo1 Well-Known Member

    I didn't know that. I thought Dragon's Lair waas both so you taught me something!
  19. Yorick

    Yorick Active Member

    Hopefully someone who owns this will put it online for all of us to see one day! :)
  20. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    I didn't watch most of the Don Bluth films when I was younger, I guess they were slightly before my time. BUT the one I did watch a lot was The Land Before Time. I'm not exaggerating when I say i've seen that movie over 100 times. I freaking loved it. I remember every single line from the movie, every scene, every tiny little detail. And you know what? It's still one of my favorite movies of all time.

    I've only seen An American Tale once and I still haven't watched Secret of Nimh. Hopefully i'll be able to watch them sometime next week.

    Also, many of you may have heard but, Don Bluth and Gary Goldman are trying to make a movie version of "Dragon's Lair". If they have their way than the movie will be the first major 2D animated movie since "The Princess and the Frog. Unless of course, because it's not CGI it ends up not getting picked up by a major distributor and just ends up getting dumped to Netflix like that beautiful "Little Prince" adaption that totally deserved to at least have a limited release in theaters.

Share This Page