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The International Muppet Show

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by BlueFrackle, Feb 3, 2003.

  1. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Well-Known Member

    Hey Guys,
    When The Muppet Show ran in other Foreign countries, There needed to be some minor edits to suit that language.

    In the opening titles on the plaque at the very beginning it would say The Muppet Show and Kermit would appear out of the 'O' and introduce the Guest Star for that week.

    In Germany the plaque was changed to Die Muppet Show, And they filmed Kermit coming out of that introducing the Guest.

    This was done for quite a few different Countries, Does anyone know of another country that had it ?

    So far i only know of Germany, But there were more !

    See ya
  2. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Well-Known Member


    Come on, i know someone knows about it !
  3. SillyRed

    SillyRed Well-Known Member

    "Die Muppet Show"?

    Die Muppet Show? I know it's German, but they might think Some1 wants the Muppet Show to die, when the title is actually in German?:D :p
  4. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Well-Known Member


    Well its only shown in Germany, So there is no worries about that.

    For anyone else who wants to know, I have put some (bad quality) screen grabs online...

    Please help out with this if you can, Any info would be great !


    See ya
  5. MuppetDanny

    MuppetDanny Well-Known Member


    I have managed to put online clip of "Die muppet Show" (courtesy of "anathema" :D), I don't know much but all I know is this clip is from Twiggy episode with a second guest star named Mary Roos :)confused: ).

    Hope it helps BlueFrackle :)


    to view click here
  6. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Well-Known Member


    If you refresh the page you will see more of the Season One openings in Germany and some Season Two shots too.

    As you can see they are different from the English recordings !

    If anyone has any footage or info about other recordings we'd love to know !


    See ya
  7. MuppetDanny

    MuppetDanny Well-Known Member


    Yeah, I also got some of that footage too, notcie no audience in the first picture in the second row.

    Does anyone know that was it recorded in London or Germany ?

  8. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Well-Known Member


    Yeah, London.

    Did you have those scenes from The Muppet Movie with the Camel and Sam on the road side and Waldorf and Statler in the cafe ?

    see ya
  9. Gorgon Heap

    Gorgon Heap Well-Known Member

    Does anathema know who this Mary Roos is?

    David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole
  10. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Well-Known Member


    Germany wanted there own skits made especially for them, But they only got one and that was Mary Roos singing 'Lean On Me', In German.

    It was put in place of Twiggy singing 'In My Life'.

    It is all in German, And no one knows where an English copy can be found.

    Mary Roos talks to Rowlf, Then sings with Floyd on Bongos, Janice on Guitar, Zoot on Sax, Animal on Drums and Rowlf on Piano.

    Two whatnot females accompany Janice to sing the chorus 'Kom zu Meir' with Mary Roos.
    Richard actually sings in German !

    Jerry Juhl told me that info, And i have the video - LOL

    see ya
  11. MuppetDanny

    MuppetDanny Well-Known Member

    sorry I don't.

    Is there any chance of a copy on tape - do you do video trade ?


  12. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Well-Known Member


    I thought you was trading with Alex ?

    Ifnot then yeah, I can do video trades now !

    See ya
  13. MuppetDanny

    MuppetDanny Well-Known Member


    I have just done a trade with Alex and Boober_Gorg, at the moment I'm not trading with anyone.

    e-mail me with a list of stuff you have and we go from there :)

    Well it's way past my bed time :D


  14. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Well-Known Member


    Emailing now !

  15. Squigiman

    Squigiman Well-Known Member


    When did you get to talk to JERRY JUHL???

  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Re: Dave,

    Did the actual Muppeteers actually sing in German? Or just Richard?

    It reminds me of something I read in a book about Monty Python, and they didn't like dubbing so the British cast actually made whole new episodes in German (featuring the German Language version of the Lumberjack song)

    In fact, they didn't speak a WORD of German, and had to parrot the whole thing. In fact, one time one of them (probably Michael Palin, I forgot) had to be an Austrailian Nature show host, and had to talk about the hindquarters of a Kangaroo in parrot german, with an Aussie accent!
  17. Animal

    Animal Well-Known Member


    I think they only did 2 skits/songs in Germany, different from the originals. Or am I wrong about this???

    1. "Lean On Me('Kom zu Meir')", with Mary Ross, from the Twiggy episode!

    2. "Halfway Down The Stairs"(a bit different from the original Harvey Korman episode). This clip is available on "Children´s Songs & Stories w/The Muppets". If you´re watching this clip and then the Harvey Korman episode, you can see that there´s a difference in those two clips.

    I´ve always thought that this other clip was from a TV show like "Top of the Pops" or something, but was recently told, it was from the German "Die Muppet Show"!!!:)

  18. anathema

    anathema Well-Known Member

    There are two video recordings of "Halfway Down The Stairs", both performed to the same audio recording of the song. One has yellow/brown lighting, the other has blue/purple.

    At this point, it's not clear why there are two takes. My copy of the German cut of the show uses the yellow/brown version, and my UK cut uses the blue/purple one. One theory is that the second version was recorded to use on "Top of the Pops" in lieu of performing the song live in studio, although why they chose to re-shoot it rather than using the original take, I don't know. At any rate, "Top of the Pops" used the blue/purple one (so far as I'm aware).

    Regardless of the reason for making the second recording, it ended up being edited into the episode at some point. I should note that my German copy of this particular show does not match my UK copy exactly - there are numerous single-frame edits and a couple of 6-frame trims to the German version, which suggests that the show was re-edited pretty much from scratch at some stage, with the blue/purple take used. I can't confirm the age of my UK copy, so it's entirely possible that it's a later edit than the one originally transmitted in 1976.

    So far as I'm aware, the yellow/brown version is the earlier of the two. In any event, the audio remains the same, so it doesn't really qualify as a 'German exclusive' in the way that the Mary Roos song does. :)

    If anybody knows the reasons for this second recording having been made, I'd love to hear from you!
  19. Stulz

    Stulz Well-Known Member

    Re: Danny,

    Those shots were actually in the movie??? I 've seen stills of them. And when I asked people @ Henson they said they were just publicity shots that were never used .......


    Anyway just downloaded the original TMS opening from "back Stage"..
    Great Site!! MORE UPLOADS!!
  20. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Well-Known Member


    I dont think they were in the final edit of the movie itseld, only in the book and publicity shots.

    I had a misunderstanding with Danny.

    Im gonna try and find out about that 'Halfway Down the Stairs' shoot !

    see ya

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