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Vacation Fozzie

Discussion in 'Action Figures' started by kmcphoto, Jul 30, 2002.

  1. kansasteen14

    kansasteen14 Well-Known Member

    Louis Kazageer

    yeah I sometimes read lee's but I ALWAYS get Tomart.I also like that it does a magazine called Tmart's Disneyana Update which I LOVE disney and love seeing updates on it especially for pins.and I agree that people are only getting into what's hot,I had no idea about how popular the muppets were at first but just picked up Kermit and Piggy because I liked them.I am one of the few teens that doesnt really like the Osbournes I mean I can find things more interesting than an show with the only word being"bleep"
  2. Louis Kazagger

    Louis Kazagger Well-Known Member

    True. Well, you can't have the Muppets on the cover of Toyfare every month! ;)
  3. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    Of course however popular the Osbourne figs are there is just the massive disadvantage of there being four characters and thats it wheras the Muppets have so many possibilities. I know they are doing a couple of chases of Ozzy and Jack but theres only so far you can go. It'll start to get boring although they are apparently doing some very funky stuff with the house playset. It also relies on the TV series which is also pretty limited - very much doubt that would go to a third season.

    So i'm not saying this is the biggest of threats ! LOL !
  4. Louis Kazagger

    Louis Kazagger Well-Known Member

    Hey Luke, check yer mail. :D
  5. Louis Kazagger

    Louis Kazagger Well-Known Member

    Remember how I told you that the fella who runs ToyWiz.com is the brother of the publisher of Wizard/Toyfare?

    Well, I noticed a link to old ToyWiz.com on one of the San Diego Con report websites, so I decided to mosey over there. I haven't been there since the days of the preorder scandal of the Toyfare Simpsons exclusives.

    ToyWiz has the Muppet line as their feature spotlight product on their website. They're also following Toyfare's lead, touting the Muppet line as "the next hot thing".

    Check out what they're offering. As you can see, getting the Wizard convention exclusives in stock isn't a problem. ;) Prices not for the faint of heart, but the Philly Dr. Teeth price isn't half bad considering three have sold for more than that on ebay.

  6. Walterfego

    Walterfego Active Member

    Louis - Thanks for reminding me of another reason to dislike Gareb Shamus and the whole Wizard code of conduct. Besides making their own market for the right price in the comic world they can also bring a little nepetism (sp?) along for the ride for good measure. :rolleyes:
  7. kansasteen14

    kansasteen14 Well-Known Member

    folks please DONT buy from that site.I once bought a simpson product9about 3 months ago) and never got it,luckily we sent it via money order and traced it back but that took 2 months so DONT order on there.
  8. DasGoot

    DasGoot Member

    Please don't flame me to oblivion...

    Good afternoon everyone,

    My name's Jon Gutierrez and I'm the price guide editor for ToyFare. It may seem a little crazy for me to post here (I know ToyFare is not well liked by a lot of people on this board) but I'm a Muppets fan who reads the site on a regular basis and I felt compelled to speak up.

    First, I can't address the whole Simpsons line controversy, simply because I wasn't here at the time. (I was hired in January as the first actual ToyFare price guide editor. Before that, one guy did the pricing for all three of our magazines.) When I was hired, though, I specifically asked if I was expected to jack up the prices on our exclusive figures. I was given (by the earlier editor) a definitive "no." (To be honest, I'm not sure if would've taken the job if I had been told to be a shill. I had other offers at the time.) All of our prices are taken through Ebay and store surveys and I honestly try to reflect actual market values at the time we go to press. I have no contact with Toywiz.com, apart from the fact that they are one of the stores I contact from time to time to check on pricing. (We have a database of about 7,000 stores across the country that I cycle through.)

    As for the shipping of exclusive figures, that's all done in house by our staff now. (The warehouse is actually part of our office building.)

    Also, one of the main reasons we're promoting the Muppets line is that we, the editorial staff, just plain love them. They're great figures and we've been blown away by the design and attention to detail the line has. I've got Bunsen, Dr. Teeth, Piggy & Kermit on my desk, not because I've been told to like them, but because I do like them. (Frankly, I wish I could get my hands on an invisible spray Fozzie. )

    I'm not saying we're perfect (far from it in some cases) but for the most part, we're just fans who are happy to support a line that we really enjoy.

    Jon Gutierrez
    Price Guide Editor
    ToyFare & Anime Invasion
  9. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member


    Great to meet you and glad to see you posting. The info you provided is very helpful.

    It's wonderful to hear how much you guys appreciate these figures, especially when there are multiple other lines and new releases out there. No doubt, ToyFare's continued support will play a part in this line continuing for several years.

    Are you aware of Palisades Collector's Club? You can get the Invisible Fozzie, Vanishing Cream Beaker, and other convention exclusives directly from Palisades. Here's some info if you haven't seen it yet...

  10. Louis Kazagger

    Louis Kazagger Well-Known Member

    Re: Please don't flame me to oblivion...

    Frankly, it showed. ;)

    Welcome Jon, glad to hear that there's no pressure on you as far as pricing goes. Actually, I have noticed a difference, as I was shocked to see some of the Simpsons Toyfare exclusives actually go down in price! Here's a taste to give you an idea how your predecessor handled things.

    This is from a post on the Simpsons board in September 2001. Draw your own conclusions. Folks were talking about all the bundle offers on
    Wizard World. You know, Pin Pal Moe offered with this and that.... Pin Pal Moe/Spidey Bust, Pin Pal Moe/Wizard subscription, etc....

    "I tell ya, the thing that really ticks me off is the ancient Luke's Dagobah
    X-Wing they're bundling Pin Pal Moe with.

    That sucker came out with Toyfare 14 or something like that, and they're
    still stuck with it. They kept that X-Wing on the bottom of their
    subsequent exclusive coupon offers, as a "Still available, quantities
    limited, order now!" add on for at least ten more months in their mag.

    When that didn't get rid of them, they even tried to make it an after the
    fact, shared exclusive with Diamond, and it was offered through Diamond
    Comics distributors. AND they're still stuck with them.

    Now I know you must be thinking, big deal, who can blame them for trying to
    unload these puppies any way they can, why are you so ticked about it?
    Well, I'll tell you why.

    Pull out your copy of Toyfare #50. Turn to the price guide and look at the
    "Toyfare Exclusives" listings. Look what went up last month, Luke's Dagobah
    X-Wing. It jumped $10.00 from the previous month! Yet there it is, still
    for sale online at Wizard World, for the same price that it debuted for
    three years ago. If that isn't blatant self promotion, I don't know what

    Tell me they're not trying to entice some fan boy who goes through the price
    guide item by item to see what went up, to notice the jump in price, and
    think "I've gotta have that" then jump for joy when they find it online at
    the original price. Or to see that they can buy this "$30.00" gem bundled
    with Moe. What a deal! Little do they know they've been trying to unload
    that dog for years.

    Wait, they've raised the price on this piece of cow-pucky online now up to $25.99! It was
    $17.99 last month. Well, I guess they've got to milk a little more money
    out of Moe somehow, without actually charging extra money for Moe.

    Gee, I guess it wouldn't have gone over too well to charge $25.99 ($26.99 plus the price of Moe for the X-Wing/Moe bundle) for an item that only books for $20.00 in their
    price guide.

    If you are one of those who are still hanging on, thinking that Toyfare has
    some shred of integrity when it comes to the prices of their own exclusives
    in their price guide, well this should snap you out of it. The price guide
    increase and the increase of the X-Wing price online are so blatant, it
    sickens me. I'm sure they thought they could slip it by and no one would
    notice. But they were wrong."

    I found this post very enlightening at the time. Here's to change Jon. Cheers! :)
  11. Louis Kazagger

    Louis Kazagger Well-Known Member

    Hey Jon,

    Here's the thread where a few of us have been keeping track of the completed ebay auction sales for the two "Holy Grail" pieces from the Muppet Show line, the Philly Wizard World East Dr. Teeth variant, and the Philly industry party giveaway Kermit in lunchbox figure. This thread should be right up you alley for price guide research, and the price trends run through the end of July.

  12. DasGoot

    DasGoot Member


    Yeah, I'll probably be joining the club soon. When I read about the perks, I couldn't believe it. I'm really glad that Pallisades is letting the collector have a better chance at getting the harder to find variants. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any other company that's doing the same.


    Wow. I don't know what happened there. If you see anything questionable like that with the guide, let me know at Priceguidecorrections@yahoo.com. I can promise that no price fixing goes on with the guide, but I'd like to avoid even the appearance of impropriety.

    Jon Gutierrez
    Price Guide Editor
    ToyFare & Anime Invasion
  13. Louis Kazagger

    Louis Kazagger Well-Known Member

    If that's not good copy for an article or sidebar in Toyfare, I don't know what is! ;)

    Yeah, it was a pretty bad scene. And I didn't just take the guys word for it, I dug out my mags and checked the price guides, the screengrabs he provided for the online price change once Moe was bundled, etc... so I know what he was saying was airtight.

    The other gripe people had was the prepricing of the Simpsons exclusives in the guide before they'd even been shipped.

    Thanks Jon, but I'm sure it won't be necessary, in light of what you've said. :)

    By the way, I don't think anyone here has anything against any employees of Toyfare themselves. Wait, is Gareb considered an employee? J/K ;)
  14. DasGoot

    DasGoot Member


    between you me and everyone else on the site, we were already planning on doing a story next issue on the recent resurgence of Toy collector fan clubs, with an emphasis on Pallisades.

    Jon Gutierrez
    Price Guide Editor
    ToyFare & Anime Invasion
  15. grail

    grail Well-Known Member

    okay, here seems like as good a place as any to post this, especially since i hate starting new threads...

    according to my email, Diamond does indeed have this months Toyfare set to come out next Wednesday, Aug 14th. this is the one with the Animal (or Skeletor...who for the record looks like a hunk of a**) cover and Vacation Fozzie order form.

    so there you go, my fellow Muppet fans...find a local comic store and you'll be all set.

    BTW, i met our new Toyfare friend at BotCon. i was bummed about something that just wasn't going to happen, and promptly stuck my foot in my mouth. he was pretty cool and didn't even give me crap for it. in my book that makes him good people...and he's got probably the funniest screen name i've seen in awhile too!

    (also BTW, wookie: if you want i can pick you up a copy of the Toyfare, and see if we can meet up for lunch that Saturday or something so i can give it to you, let me know)
  16. Jimbo504

    Jimbo504 Well-Known Member

    Is there any other way to get vacation fozzie besides through the magazine? I think my subscription just ended and I dont think I will make it to a store that carries toyfare around the 14th. plus, I have tried this method with past exclusives (ie pin pal burns) and didn't get it even though I sent it in the day I got the mag.
  17. Louis Kazagger

    Louis Kazagger Well-Known Member

    I feel your pain. I did the same thing with Pin Pal Burns, and got shut out, even though I mailed my coupon the day the mag hit my comic shops stands. I wound up ordering mine through the UK allotment Forbidden Planet Sci Fi Warehouse got.

    Well, I guess that depends on if you want the Toyfare version specifically. There are two vacation Fozzies, with different paint schemes. Musicland/Mediaplay/Suncoast stores are offering the alternate paint scheme.

    Here are links to pics of the two versions:

    Musicland color scheme:
    Toyfare color scheme:

    If you want the Toyfare paint scheme, you could always go to Wizard World and order the Toyfare Vacation Fozzie online as an alternative. I'd imagine the Mediaplay Fozzie will be offerend online as well, but neither version is offered on there websites for sale as of yet.
  18. Pschtyckque

    Pschtyckque Well-Known Member

    I have been burned twice by ToyFare. I have bought the magazine since the first specials, and enjoy reading it. When I saw the Simpsons Pin Pals set, it convinced me to buy Simpsons figures. I had a friend order a PP Burns for me, and got it with no problem.

    Pin Pal Moe, on the other hand, went horribly wrong. I saw the preorder bundles on the website for Moe, but none of the bundles appealed to me. I only wanted Moe. So I waited until the day they went on sale. So there I sat, credit card in hand, waiting for 9:00 am to roll around to order. At 9:00, I entered all of my information as quickly as I could, and then discovered they had all sold out. I was ******! So when the magazine came out that day, I had my comic shop owner fill out the order form for 3, saying I would buy one from him. Well, he got his envelope back, stamped "sold out". If not for the sheer generosity of one of the Simpsons board posters, I would still not have a Moe. I vowed never to order from ToyFare again.

    But upon mentioning this to Ken Lilly, he told me to have faith in them now, as he did. I do want the TF Fozzie, as I prefer it's coloring. So, based on Ken's recommendation, I will try again. I hope things work out well this time.

  19. Louis Kazagger

    Louis Kazagger Well-Known Member

    I remember that day when Pin Pal Moe sold out in three minutes online. It was unbelievable. It was also ironic that after Pin Pal Moe sold out, they still had the bundles up for the rest of that day, meaning they were "sold out" of Moe by himself, but it you were willing to pony up the dough for a bundle (like a two hundred dollar Thor statue and a Moe bundeld together), well, that was a different story. :rolleyes:

    In the words of wisdom of Gomer Pyle, USMC: "Burn me once, shame on you, burn me twice, shame on me." ;)

    Now, having said that, I am going to order Vacation Fozzie from Toyfare. I'm sure Ken is right and things will go more smoothly now. But if they don't, well, it's like baseball with their work stopages, less and less fans will come back and give them another chance.
  20. Jimbo504

    Jimbo504 Well-Known Member

    will they be offered online though? I won't have an opportunity to pick up a copy of the magazine and my subscription just ended last issue (just my luck) I think. Okay, anyone who has a subscription, you know how on every issue it says the date that your subscription will end? Does that correspond to the actual month that you get the issue, or the month that is printed on the issue? Like the date my subscription ends is 9/02. I got the September issue last month. does that mean my subscription is over?

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