I have to disagree with most of what's been said in this forum. I LOVE VMC, and will be watching it for many years to come. Bear with me while I summarize my responses to what's been said... I think it was more adult than most Muppet shows, and I'm OK with that. Its not surprising, considering how adult the movie they were parodying was. My 2 and 7 year olds might not like it (except for select chase and Cirque parody scenes) yet, but I think they will as they get older. It also seems a bit weird to complain about pop culture references when the movie is a parody of a pop culture icon - Its a Wonderful Life. Are some of the references dated? Yes, but I still don't get all the references in the original Muppet Show, because it had dated references as well. Think about sketches and characters like Pigs in Space, Vet Hospital, Electric Mayhem esp. Janice...I could go on. As for new Muppets, what about Johnny? How can you like the Muppets without liking cultural references? All great comedy laughs at culture, espcially contemporary culture. Shakespeare and Jane Austin did it - why can't we? If we can't laugh at our own world, who can we laugh at? If the jokes are good enough, they'll hold up anyway. I think the vast majority of these are. I loved the Dot scene. I think these will hold up over time because the mood is dark and somewhat surreal. Even when this form of club has gone the way of the Dodo, the mood of the scene will carry the message. I didn't think Whoopi was 'dispassionate and uncaring' as God. I think her portrayl of God showed a Creator who deeply cares, but doesn't get involved in the day to day details of our lives. Only when something goes beyond our ability to change or cope does She step in. This is a very common modern concept of God. I thought it interesting that she didn't fix the problem for Kermit - she just helped him to see the good in his life. God didn't change the world; She changed Kermit's heart. If God can harden the heart of Pharoah, why not lighten the heart of a frog? (Its easier on the frogs than having the rain down on someone ) I, too, was bothered by the topless thing. The joke didn't work, and stepped over the line for me. But that was one line in the entire show. I loved Gonzo's song, The Divine Miss P as the Cat Lady, all the parody sketches for the Xmas Eve show, Fozzie's chase scene, the Doc Hopper reference, and the tushie grab. I think its funny that a pig did it. I kept waiting for Kermit to parody the Indian Jones line & say "Pigs? Why did it have to be pigs?" Bottom line, I'll skip MCC and watch VMC and MFC every year.