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Your Feedback: Season 2 Muppet Show Guides

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by Phillip, Oct 20, 2003.

  1. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    Our Muppet Show season two guides are on-line. Featuring detailed descriptions on every episode, including all the skits, songs and UK sketches, these guides should be a handy resource. Featuring over 200 photos from the 24 episodes, relive the second season of The Muppet Show step-by-step.

    Special thanks goes out to our team who have given many hours of their time to this project. The guides and episode notes have been written by D. W. McKim. James Carroll and Alex Taylor have assembled our wonderful library of season 2 images. Later this year, we will also be adding more images to season 1.

    Let us know what you think of the new season 2 guides!

    http://www.muppetcentral.com/guides/episodes/tms/season2/index.shtml
  2. Whatever

    Whatever Active Member

    It looks great! I've only seen a handful of episodes, so i love reading about them! :flirt: :halo: :)
  3. Smy Guiley

    Smy Guiley New Member

    Beautiful! Just beautiful! The amount of detail you guys cover still amazes me. BTW, how are you getting full length UK copies of the show if most of them were never released? (probably a dumb question, I guess someone in the UK taped them, huh?) The quality of the pics is stunning. Being as I've been storing my episodes on VCD (which is only about VHS quality) I was taken aback by the clarity of the screen shots.

    Bravo!

    I'll be referring back to the guide periodically for reference.
    Thanks!

    eric
  4. Erine81981

    Erine81981 Active Member

    The first time I saw the first season w/ every little detail I printed every little thing that ya'll made on the first season guide. I'm going to try to do this one so I can have both guides and then use them when I need them. Ya'll do the most wonderful job on these things ya'll write when you get a story on some Muppet event. I can't wait for season 3 to come. Hope I'll be around a computer when that one comes. Thanks for a wonderful job. :)
  5. Chilly Down

    Chilly Down Member

    Woo-hoo! What a surprise! I was starting to worry we might never see an update. Fabulous job, D.W. and Phil! Very thorough. I like how there's an explanation of all the changes in the theme song. That'll especially be interesting in coming seasons, because of all the little "tweaks" they did. (I wonder how many times Zoot gains and loses his hat again during the credits?)

    Anyway, I've just read a couple of synopses so far, but I look forward to reading many more!
  6. Squigiman

    Squigiman Active Member

    Wow! Nice job! These things are really well layed-out. Only thing is I only feel like I should read the ones I've seen, just to see any extra insight, and I honestly haven't seen nearly enough for the hardcore Muppet fan. Just through the discovery of Kazaa, have seen Steve Martin, John Denver, Carol Burnett, and Diana Ross, with Linda Ronstadt just finished. Before anyone criticizes me about copyright and such, I'd buy all 15 DVDs, if I wasn't an all-too-broke, out-of-work college student. Still hope to get 'em all, and hope more to be released/to see all 120 episodes via trades and stuff. Anyways, I really like the guides, and have been waiting for this for a while. Can't wait to see 3 and beyond. Keep up the great work, guys. Take care.


    -Squigiman
  7. dwmckim

    dwmckim Well-Known Member

    Thanks for all the great feedback everyone - i'm glad it seems to have been worth the wait. The other seasons shouldn't be as long coming. For those that don't know, a lot of things in my life went to pieces around the time the first part was being done...i was kicked out of my family's house and fired from a long-time job at roughly the same time for being gay and in the time since it's been a real struggle finding a decent full-time job with the market at such a low...been bouncing between part-timers and such, plus struggling with bouts of depression etc in the interim. Things are looking up lately though and the rest should come in shorter intervals.

    I initially wanted to try to squeeze this part out while it was still "the 25th anniversary of season two" - but then improvements kept being made with all the screen captures and all - but my philosophy throughout has been i'd rather it be a little slow in coming and have it exactly right than rush it out before it's not quite up to par.

    Also since it is a bit more thorough (or "Ultimate") than other similar efforts, i still wouldn't discourage people who haven't seen a particular episode from reading the entries because even though they may be "spoiler-heavy" i also wrote in so it doesn't give away all the gags or surprises either - you'll still be on the floor laughing at an episode even if you've memorized the guide! :)
  8. jediX

    jediX Active Member

    Well you did an awesome job on that, man. Quite a labor of love, I must say. I can't wait to see what you have in store for season 3. :)
  9. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    dwmckim

    I've just begun to read the wonderful guides you've written. I kind of like to savor each perfectly written page. Thank you so much for this great comprehensive work. You provide the perfect balance of information without giving it all away. Since many of us haven't had access to over half the episodes for years, this is the next best thing.

    I'm sorry to hear about your troubles. I have known many friends in the same situation. I'm very fortunate not to have gone through it like you are experiencing. Hang in there and know you aren't alone.

    Thanks again for all you do around here. :);)
  10. Jeez guys, this is AMAZING! :D :D

    Really!

    This is!

    I personally loved readin' of Janice's evolution as Richard took over her character---how interesting, and so right on the head!

    Thanks to each o' you guys for loggin' in so many hours of labors of love! We all rully appreciate it! :flirt:
  11. anathema

    anathema Active Member

    All bar four of the shows come from DVD releases - either the US or the French ones. Of the others, three come from VHS copies of Dutch broadcasts of the show, and the fourth from a UK VHS release.
  12. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    wow, pretty good. I love the pic of the Performers, and have set it as my desktop background for today.

    Cool stuff.

    Beauregard
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Pfft... it's about time...

    Hah hah ha... just kidding. ;)

    I had to do a rush on reading and writing this between writing papers, and if this intro is any indication, the season 2 guide will eclipse the hard work and enjoyability of the first guide. Great stuff is indeed on the way at Muppet Central...

    We are all anxiously looking forward to what will be a great recap of the episodes! Congratulations and thanks for this labor of love! :D
  14. AnthonyF3

    AnthonyF3 New Member

    Yeah, wow, fantastic work.
  15. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    I echo the others comments about how fantastic this is and add my own thanks times ten. It is truly wonderful to have something this perfect, detailed and comprehensive on a Muppet website.
  16. BlueAM

    BlueAM New Member

    I LOVED 'EM!

    I especially like the pics of the monsters, misc. characters, and WHATNOTS!
    The Whatnot folks I like best include the gypsies from Peter Sellers' gypsy number, Burlington Bertie, the robbers, the Half Man, the Time Man, and others. I rully wished I could see pics from "The Ant and the Grasshopper".

    Anyway, I wanna know when you'll be adding the rest of the guides, starting with Season 3. I especially wanna see pics from the Spike Milligan, Elke Sommer, and Roger Miller episodes, since I have never seen those episodes before and would like to read those guides.

    Take care, Phil!

    BlueAM
  17. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

  18. Daffyfan2003

    Daffyfan2003 Well-Known Member

    I didn't get a chance to comment on the TMS guides for season 2, or the ones for season one for that matter, so I thought I'd say a few things here. They're really great. I like all the pics and everything. Just a few comments. I've noticed you didn't say who the patient was for some Vet's Hospital skits (particularly the Lou Rowls episode. I remember seeing that ep a long time ago, but I don't remember who the patient was.) There was another thing I wanted to ask too, but I forget what it was, something about an ep having a connection with The Muppet Movie. I'll have to re-read some of the episode notes and see if I could remember what it was I wanted to ask about. Another thing, for the season one eps, maybe you should clarify when it's Richard and when it's Frank performing Miss Piggy. (I know you mention that sometimes in the episode notes, but other times it doesn't seem to be very clear.) When I read some of her quotes, I have trouble picturing which voice she would have had. (Ex: "You're the monster!" in the Lena Horne ep) Also, do you think you'll ever write outlines for seasons 3-5. Please let me know about that. Talk to you later.
  19. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    There are plans for 3-5, but these aren't some cheapy TV Tome guides. They take time. It likely takes a few days for each ep. They can't include *every* detail but I think the levels are just right.
  20. MuppetDanny

    MuppetDanny Well-Known Member

    Phillip

    This may interests you for your guide :

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