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Your Thoughts: Letters to Santa Writers' Interview

Discussion in 'Muppet Appearances' started by Phillip, Dec 14, 2008.

  1. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Well I will say you shouldn't worry about how others view you for watching certain things (or not watching as the case may be). :)
  2. ryhoyarbie

    ryhoyarbie Well-Known Member

    I just watched one of the scenes having Lew Zealand. He gives Jane Krakowski a present and says "Merry Christmas" then he whispers and says "it's fishes"!

    Lew Zeland's a loon!
  3. Frogster

    Frogster Well-Known Member

    I didn't plan to dislike it. It just ended up being that way. Letters To Santa just seems corny, like most of what they've been doing. You can't tell me that, when watching that post office scene, it isn't corny. And how others feel about me when involving the Muppets... my family and friends know I love 'em, but yeah when they see them doin stuff like this, it just sorta makes them roll their eyes and say, "Whatever". They don't judge me; they could care less as to what I enjoy. But even though they're not big fans like me, they too know that the Muppets are a sinking ship.
  4. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    All of the clips I've seen seem classic and Muppety to this fan of 34 years and nobody I know gives me a problem about my liking them. So it still appears you are planning to dislike it and much of it for external reasons. When Kermit Swamp Years came out I wasn't embarrassed for my self or the Muppets. There's enough goodness out there (old and now likely new) to be pleased about for me. :cool:
  5. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    I don't think anybody should have it in mind to dislike it, or even like it, too much before it's on. And thankfully that's tonight, lol.
  6. uppitymuppity

    uppitymuppity Well-Known Member

  7. theprawncracker

    theprawncracker Well-Known Member

  8. Traveling Matt

    Traveling Matt Well-Known Member

    Imagine you're at a carnival and you are impressed by a magician's act. Now picture another magician doing the exact same act with the exact same props in the exact same manner. Will the performance be different somehow? The Muppets have experienced a similar transformation, only on a much larger scale. Instead of one performer working solo, you have an entire team of people (performers, directors, producers, writers, etc) doing the work.

    Everyone is looking for the "magic" to return. The "magic" existed in the first place because the right people were involved at the right time. It is of incomparable significance to keep in mind that an (almost) entirely different team of people work with the Muppets now.

    "Magic" can indeed be found today, but it cannot be the same as it was in 1980.
  9. Vic Romano

    Vic Romano Well-Known Member

    This GINIA BELLAFANTE character seems a bit too "up-in-arms" about a Muppet Christmas special, sounds like somebody needs to get... er, uh... a Christmas present.

    I know how Luke (Frogster) feels. While I'm more optimistic about the whole thing, I understand that something like this can seem like it's goal is to just crowbar the Muppets into the hearts of "today's" youth rather then create the magic we're all aware the Muppets are capable of creating.

    I'll admit, since Jim died, it seems like most projects the Muppets did simply didn't understand who the Muppets are, and I'll admit that these guys seemed to generalize their personalities a little too much, but I have been steadily pleased with what's been happening between Dis and Muppets, even Studio DC.

    The bottom line is, we need more fans like Frogster to blast this stuff. It may be negative and pessimistic at first glance, but it reminds us that we don't have to accept every single little thing that stamps the frog's face on it. The Muppets deserve to be held to the high quality standards that Jim set, but we also have to understand that they'll never have Jim's magic again, but Jim was the one who insisted they carry on after he passed.
  10. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Oh, wow! Now that officially is a bad review.

    It does appear again that this self-professed non(or neutral)-fan doesn't understand the Muppets in the first place. He even pans the music - music penned by the same hand that gave us Rainbow Connection and Movin' Right Along! That isn't even mentioned. It appears to be a condemnation of Disney rather than a real critique.

    I've said it before. This is the most Muppety they've seemed to me since Jim. This is even more Muppety seeming than the Jim era Henson Hour, not to mention the post-Jim Muppets Tonight (both shows I enjoyed). This seems right to me so far. And the condemnation of Jane Krakowski (a star Ally McBeal and of now hit NBC show 30 Rock) smacks of a personal distaste rather than one of merit.

    I haven't seen the special yet and I'll be the first to admit if it blows, fizzles, tanks or any variation of that. It just doesn't appear that many of these critics would want to watch a Muppet special anyway. I know this program is for newcomers as much as classic fans, but thus far I have seen little evidence of disappointment for either (sans-agenda, of course).

    Still so excited! :eek:
  11. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    HE even states he's not a Muppet fan! So, why would he bother writing about them?
  12. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    I agree, it is important to be a little critical in order to notice things that might be wrong.

    Well I do think the NYTimes reviewer should be a little more familiar with the Muppets. But I did like this part:

    Honestly, even if this special is good, I agree projects of the past will always still be better. ;)
  13. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    The writers seem to be really good for the Muppets and I love how open and out there people have been for us fans!
  14. BabyBeanBunny

    BabyBeanBunny Active Member

    I'm so glad this was made. I PVR'd it so I could watch it when I got home from work, and what made me the happiest was when Dr Teeth and Rowlf talked. It took so long to have those characters back.
  15. Brinatello

    Brinatello Well-Known Member

    Just watched the special tonight and thought it was really cute! It had its classic Muppet moments for sure, the JHC is trying hard in keeping the characters alive and as we remember them. I got a bit teary-eyed at the end, I must admit, seeing those that have been silent or gone for such a long time. Very nice to see them appear once more and I can't wait to see what future projects are in store in 2009!
  16. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I saw some Muppety moments tonight.

    Upon second viewing I give this special a solid B. There appeared to be an extra added layer missing, but the music, the Muppets and the magic is definitely back. They have created a new likable foundation for all ages that has been lacking in the past. The writers and the recast Muppets will keep improving. It will never be the same as under Jim's direction, but they have managed to keep his spirit alive in this effort.
  17. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter Well-Known Member

    I will agree with you on this (but not much else in your rant). Miss Piggy is insecure, but hides her frailty with a "tough guy" persona. She can be very sweet, or very tough. I think we've been seeing that more lately. Her interview with Kermit yesterday was very sweet. The end of the special, she was very sweet. But she's also tough when she feels she's revealed too much of herself. I'm kind of tired of her being referred to as a "diva," 'cause I don't really think of her as one. I don't think that's who she is.

    And may I just say, Eric's doing great with the pig lately!
  18. Da Dogster

    Da Dogster Active Member

    I enjoyed it with one exception. I had thought that it would be a movie it was toooo short.
    Other than that I loved it when Gonzo went throught the exray machine. "did you find anything?" to me they was trying to bring back the magic of the muppets.

    So I will stick to my guns and say it was a great movie, er specail. (still could have been longer)

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