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Your Thoughts: "The Muppets" Theatrical Film

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, Nov 22, 2011.

  1. ryhoyarbie

    ryhoyarbie Well-Known Member

    Eh.....I'll give my review of the movie.

    -The Muppets tells the tale of an avid muppet fan named Walter who grew up watching the old Muppet Show. He loves the muppets, has lot of muppet items, and even went as Kermit the frog for Halloween one year. His brother, played by Jason Segel (nice gag reference going back to Kermit and Fozzie being brothers in The Great Muppet Caper), decides to take Walter and his girlfriend for 10 years (really, that long!!!!!), Amy Adams, to Los Angeles.

    They decide to take a tour of the old muppet theater located smack dab in Muppet Studios along with the never before scene office of Kermit. Walter hears that Tex Richman, played by Chris Cooper, is going to tear down the theater and drill for oil. Walter goes in panic mode and he, Adams, and Segal decide to tell Kermit and to see what he can do about. Kermit thinks he can put on a show to raise 10 million dollars to save the theater but has his doubts since he hasn't seen anyone in years. But being the ever optomistic frog, Kermit decides to track down his friends and put on a show with the help of Walter, Segal, Adams, and Kermit's butler 80's Robot by car since Kermit said that's how they did it in the first movie.

    They locate Fozzie working in a casino in Reno with a tribute group known as the Moopets, get Gonzo from toliet corporation (nice reference back to Gonzo and being a plummer in the first movie), grab Animal from being in an anger management class along with Jack Black, and snatch the rest of the gang. How Kermit got Rowlf was classic, as what Rowlf even said. Of course they try to get Piggy from Paris but she doesn't want anything to do with them since she has managed to do well for herself on her own. So Kermit decides to get a Piggy replacement (Miss Poogy).

    After going through several networks to showcase their telethon, they struck gold with one that Rashida Jones is an executive of. She insists that Kermit and company get a celebrity host as well. After looking through all of his contact lists from the 70's and 80's, Kermit can't find a celebrity host, which leads to the kidnapping of Jack Black and various muppets in ninja robes and their names plastered with japanese subtitles on screen for laughs.

    Miss Piggy decides to come back and that leads to Miss Poggy's depature (for now as she states she will be back), and says she didn't do it for Kermit but for the rest of the muppets (ouch Kermit!).

    Kermit also tries to plead with Tex Richman into giving them back the theater without any problems but Tex says no deal and says he has found the perfect replacements for the muppets, the moppets, in which Miss Poogy, a moopet Fozzie a moopet Kermit, a moopet Rowlf, and a moopet Janice come strolling. Kermit decides they have to now put on a show which leads to an all out Muppet Show filled with the original theme song and the classic characters doing new skits (no Pigs In Space or Vets Hospital in this movie folks, sorry!)

    In the end Kermit and Piggy make up after Piggy seeing an old photo of them that was taken in The Muppets Take Manhatten that Kermit kept with him all that time, and Kermit even admits he needs her, not everyone, but him.

    Walter, Gary, and Mary help out with the telethon and Walter tries to figure out if he should work with the muppets since he doesn't know if he has a talent or not, while at the same time Mary wants Gary to propose to her and to give all of his attention to her and not share that attention with Walter (women, bunch of babies!)

    At the end of the movie, the telethon raises all but 1 cent of the money needed to buy back the theater but Tex Richman has said he has won the day (maniacal laugh). As Kermit and company decide to leave the theater for good, they are soon surrounded by lots, and lots, and lots, and lots.....(did I mention lots yet?) outside who are glad Kermit and company are back. Because of seeing all of the people outside supporting the muppets, Tex decides to give Kermit and company the rights of the theater back.

    The End.......

    -The Goods:

    -References to the Muppet Movie: Sweetums working at the car dealership from the first movie and saying wait for him again, Kermit saying they'll travel by car to get the muppets like he did in the first movie, the standard "rich and famous" contract Kermit signed in the first movie as pointed out by Statler and Waldorf, and of course the Rainbow Connection song sung by Kermit, Piggy, and then later joined by various muppets who hold their hands together and come on stage

    -Reference to Muppets Take Manhatten: Uncle Deadly and Bobo sing "Together Again" a few hums before being cut off by Tex Richman, and again when Walter is playing a few notes on the piano trying to figure out what kind of talent he has towards the end of the movie

    -References to various Muppet Show episodes including the opening of the Steve Martin episode and Bob Hope

    -Uncle Deadly (never appeared in a major movie before until now and does a good job)

    -Jack Black: he doesn't want to be on the telethon and says to he people watching that he's being held against his will while the audience seems to think it's all a joke, and him being apart of the barbershop number. Black says they're destroying a classic song.............

    -Smells Like Teen Spirit barbershop number featuring Link, Beaker, Sam, and Rowlf

    -Seeing and hearing Link

    -Kermit giving hosting duties to Scooter for a short time and Kermit telling Scooter to picture everyone naked

    -Seeing an all new Muppet Show with the theme being played again

    -Scooter doing his back stage duties

    -Scooter opeing a closet and seeing Beauregard cleaning it with an exchange by the two

    -Gonzo and the bowling gag he was doing (there's an end and it involves Tex Richman)

    -Wayne and Wanda and a gag they had when the lights came back on

    -Chris Cooper: he's great and loved his maniacal laugh gag

    -Jerry Nelson as the announcer

    -Life's a Happy Song and finale, along with Pictures In My Head

    -the gags that was thrown in the movie such as thinking Mary was singing when there's rain but it's only someone watering the plants, to a choir singing while riding in a bus when Kermit meets Gary, Mary, and Walter for the first time

    -the end with the crowd outside cheering for the muppets

    -seeing Bobby Benson, Sam the eagle, Sweetums, and the Newsman (he has several lines) doing the telephones along with various celebrities

    -seeing Marvin Suggs (he also has several lines at the end)

    Final Grade: A-
  2. Chris Graham

    Chris Graham Member

    I have to say, I absolutely positively loved “The Muppets.” It had the charm of the original movies, without the splenda sweatiness or going over the top ness some of the more recent Muppet projects have had. Many of the early concerns about that Segal and his crew were going to take this I the wrong direction I think were unfounded. I can understand concern, this was the first Muppet project to have a totally new creative team and no involvement from the Henson family, but you could tell that they loved the material. I mean Wayne and Wanda, Marvin Suggs, Beauregard and Uncle Deadly were in the film. It is obvious Segal is one of us hard core Muppet fans. The only weakness of the film I thought was the songs. Beyond “Muppet or a Man” I wasn't humming along with any of them. But when you consider how much love and care went into this its only a minor issue. The only reason this is a PG movie is because of a few fart jokes and who cares about them, they were funny. Here is to hoping it dose monster numbers this weekend like it is predicted to do. By far the best post Jim Muppet project, and I'm very hopeful for where Disney takes The Muppets into the future.
  3. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    I do. That's one thing I'm really dreading frankly, lol. I'm hoping to overall enjoy the movie, but just saying. I'll have my copy of The Muppet Movie close by just in case as soon as I get home. You know the movie that didn't need to rely on jokes like that. ;)
  4. Chris Graham

    Chris Graham Member

    Also another thing that needs to be mentioned is the level of homage paid to Jim Henson in this film. You see his face several times in the film, including on a few light polls on Hollywood Blvd, which were actually on Hollywood Blvd for some time. I also if you look close you can see a cameo from Lightning McQueen (Granted on a billboard) and Whinie The Poo on the window of the Disney store at the El Capitai..... i man Muppet Theater. Also being someone who lives in LA i got a kick out of thinking the Muppet Theater was across the street from The Chinese Theater and Kodak Theater.
  5. Chris Graham

    Chris Graham Member

    There is nothing more or less offensive then what was in "Its A Very Merry Muppet Christmas" in fact i'd say the use of the innuendos was more over the line then anything you see in this film.

    The thing is with the ratings board the way they are now, all of the Jim erra "The Muppet Movies" would have been a PG movie if it was made today. I mean Dr. Hopper hires someone to kill Kermit. In "The Great Muppet Caper" Charles Groden pulls a gun on The Muppets. In "Take Manhattan" Kermit is hit by a car. These are all the minor things that back 30 years ago were ok in a G rating, but by todays standards would give you a PG.

    You will want to keep that copy of "The Muppet Movie" close cause after seing this you will want to spend more time with The Muppets and rewatch everything. This is a very good movie.
  6. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    I wasn't really referring to the ratings system so much as relying on cheap fart jokes.

    I don't need this movie for that to happen. ;) But thanks for the thought. : )
  7. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    Actually, it looked to me like there was a crotch-wallop when Jack Black was captured, but because of the angle it wasn't that obvious. I'd have to see it again to be 100% sure, though.
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  8. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    This movie was definitely way better than Muppets From Space.
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  9. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    Jack Black getting tyed up by The Muppets was probably my favorite part of the movie. I always found Jack to be very annoying and when I heard he was going to be in the movie I originally thought "Oh God", then when I see what The Muppets did to him (The whole John Cleese treatment) I was laughing. Cheering silently thinking I was dreaming. LOL Plus Jack in Anger Management, excellent.
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  10. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    Other random comments...

    '80s Robot. I just didn't see the point of the character. Who built him? Why? The only funny thing about him was the sodas on his tray and his modem gag. If Kermit was supposed to be in a mental time warp to the days of TMS, fine, but he wasn't. He'd let go of that and felt poorer for doing so. If there was any purpose to the character, I have a feeling it was left on the cutting room floor.

    Fozzie's face looks a little off to me. Maybe it's because he's so hairy, like his winter pelt has grown in.

    I loved the Sweeney Todd gag. I expected Animal to raise the drumsticks and roar "At last my arms are complete again!" But since he didn't, I'll have to draw it.

    I was hoping for a "Scoooooter" gag, considering where he was working.

    I may be the only person in all of fandom who was pleased when Gonzo announced to the "people of Earth" that he was back. A callback to MFS? Cool!

    I was also very pleased that Camilla actually had a meaningful line. We're used to her just being Gonzo's arm candy. Since I'm a Gonzo/Camilla 'shipper (Stop laughing! MOM!) I liked seeing her actually help change Gonzo's mind.

    The ninja turtle line was cute. I remember seeing, not to long ago, a discussion thread somewhere else in which some Ninja Turtle fans were spitting mad over Kermit's disrespect to their characters. Huh??

    Don't worry about The Swedish Chef flaming the fridge. The spoiled food inside was seen later on, fresh once again. Which doesn't make much sense, I admit, but neither does your nose falling off after you eat paper clips.

    What was with the balls velcroed onto Jack Black during the ninja scene?

    Speaking of the ninja scene, I hope someone can post the pictograms by the character names. I can read kanji, but not that fast.
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  11. LamangoNumber2

    LamangoNumber2 Well-Known Member

    Don't tease me man...
  12. a_Mickey_Muppet

    a_Mickey_Muppet Well-Known Member

    we just got back & "pictures in my head" made my eyes water, but at the END when all the fans are out side i cried...a HAPPY cry tho! because there BACK! :) Sweeetums at Mad Man Mooneys (Now called Mad Man Mooney & Son) nice touch to "TMM" ;)
  13. redBoobergurl

    redBoobergurl Well-Known Member

    My thoughts - which are soooo hard to put into words right now.

    So I turn 30 in two days. There. I said it. And I've been having a hard time accepting that age, but I've come to terms with it and this movie was a big reason for it. Jason Segel is very close in age to myself. We are in a unique generation I think in that we grew up with the Muppets and knew Jim Henson, and we were around for what came after. And I think of all the other franchises from my childhood that I was a fan of and how they've been treated or "revived" and I think - wow, I am so truly thankful for the Muppets. I'm thankful for Jason and what he's done. I'm thankful for James Bobin and all the others who gave this project a chance.

    This movie. Words cannot express my joy and my love. Is it the Muppet Movie? No - but did we really want a "Remake" of that? I love this movie so much. It has the right amount of nostalgia while making me fall in love with the characters for almost the first time. And I have told my husband I might run away and marry Walter because I am loving him - he is adorable in every way possible.

    I am not sure I can really say anything else to sum up what I feel - I will be seeing it again on Friday and I'll go again and again with anyone who wants to go with me. This was without a doubt the best possible early birthday gift I could ever have, especially on a milestone birthday like this one will be. I am happy!!
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  14. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    I do agree with you, I also loved how they parodied Japenese karate movies, becuase they are all the same.
  15. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    I love the first 20 minutes or so, with Walter, Gary, and Mary.
    When I was in the theater seeing it the second time someone was like, "Hey!! Where's Kermit!?"
  16. muppetlover123

    muppetlover123 Well-Known Member

  17. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    Also you'd never think you'd be touched by a character like Uncle Deadly, I just love his part in this movie.
  18. muppetlover123

    muppetlover123 Well-Known Member

    i know im so glad hes in this just more then like thog and wayne and wanda he is a huge part in it
  19. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    It is great. Also mainly becuase Disney brought back a character who hasn't been seen since the Muppet Show. He was basically a dead Muppet. It's great that they were able to put him in the spotlight and saves the Muppet Theater.
  20. muppetlover123

    muppetlover123 Well-Known Member

    i know so i heard that they do save the theater is that true

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