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Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, Nov 22, 2011.
You talking to me or Reevz? LOL!
Hard to tell on this forum of all places whether someone is kidding or not when they say they've watched the movie (probably) 432 times
I know I've probably watched it more then I should. XP
I may have exaggerated...slightly
I don't have 432 fingers either I'll make do with my 17 fully functional digits!!
Loved the Movie. Finally a good Muppet Movie AFTER Jim's passing. So sad that OZ and The Henson family didn't think so. I figured out why though.
Of course the Henson's didn't like it because it was more about Walter, but That is why it succeeded. We were able to live vicariously through him.
Sorry Brian you are a spoiled little kid who (after watching the Celebrity Apprentice) thinks your as good as your father. Sorry kiddo you are not.
and Frank? We all know why you are upset, because they turned down your script and made this GREAT MOVIE instead.
Would you be surprised that this is now in my TOP three Muppet Movies of all time, and it might even be #2, of course nothing can knock off MTM.
#I am a muppet
I don't think that's a very nice thing to say about the Henson family or Frank Oz. I actually heard Brian Henson very much enjoyed the film. I've heard different stories on Frank's reasons so I can't give anything concrete. The only thing I heard that was controversial was the "fart shoes" scene. A lot of people felt including the muppeteers that that was cheap humor and that was one thing they never stooped to. Your entitled to your opinion but calling the Henson's spoiled is a little much.
I'm glad you liked the film. I did too!
Did I miss something? We know that Frank Oz didn't like the original script, but then again, neither did most fans. However, I haven't read anything about Brian Henson disliking the film. In fact, the Henson Company was gracious in allowing Disney to shoot on their lot and they were very excited about promoting the film on Facebook.
Yeah apparently we did miss something.
i don't think brian henson disliked the film. and i feel that frank oz's disapproval came mostly from his personal feelings about the characters and not liking that total outsiders were sort of taking over what he felt a strong sense of ownership over
i'm sure he feels very strongly about those characters, and it was probably hard to watch them get taken over by new people, so to speak. i think that's what it was, honestly. because i don't see how he could have seen the movie and not seen how loving a tribute it was, in the end. i would still love to know if he ever saw the finished film
I've seen interviews of Brian Henson saying he liked the film. So I don't know where that's coming from.
Then why wasn't the Henson family "on Board" with the making of the film? I'm sure he liked it after he saw it, but don't you think that maybe he felt just like Frank, I mean it was his stuff, and he didn't write it.
Umm...maybe because the Henson's no longer own the rights to the muppets. Because I can tell you Brian very much said he enjoyed the film. I know Frank said he was turned off by the script but that was before the film was even released. Whether he changed his mind or not I don't know. But I think you calling the Henson's spoiled brats is a little harsh. Agree to disagree on this one.
I don't know what you're talking about because the Henson family doesn't own the Muppets anymore. The Henson Company sold them to Disney in 2004. Henson is trying to get a lot of their own off the ground right now. As for Brian Henson, he made no statement about the film and we're really not supposed to speculate about the lives of the performers per our forum regulations. Frank's objection is a matter of public record so that statement can be discussed.
Brian did appear with the Muppets when they accepted their Walk of Fame star last month and the Henson Company was extremely accommodating when Disney wanted to shoot the movie at their studio. They also showed a lot of enthusiasm by promoting the film on the Henson Facebook page! They can't really be more "on board" with another company's movie than that!
Here is a quote from an interview Brian Henson did back in 2010
There’s a new Muppet movie in the works, but Henson doesn’t have anything to do with it since the Muppets were sold to Disney. Do people know that it’s now Disney and not the Henson Company, and does it matter? Are there any regrets or concerns?It was my father’s dream to put the Muppets in the Disney theme parks — that’s how he thought they would stay alive forever — so the deal was done to complete that vision. As for the movie, Disney is very protective of the Muppets and they move slowly and carefully. They intend to respect and maintain the Muppet tone so they will live on wonderfully. I may consult on the movie, but I won’t be on the set. I act a bit as a technical adviser and tell them whom to hire — they’ll work with a lot of people my dad and I worked with.
And another quote from Brian back in Sept of 2011.
“I’m so pleased to see Disney putting a full promotional push behind it and making it a Thanksgiving movie,” Henson said. “The Muppets haven’t had a push like this since the first one (‘The Muppet Movie’) came out in 1979.”
So I don't know about you but I hardly think there was any negativity on Brian's part.
I believe Jim would have done the movie.
That doesn't mean he liked the script.
Once again agree to disagree. Maybe you should write to Brian himself and ask him. And yes if Jim were alive we probably would've had lots more muppet movies. But unfortunately that's not the case.
As JV said there is nothing to prove he disliked the script. Also if he really disliked the script I hardly think he would've let them shoot on their backlot.
I'd also like to add it's really hard to have any say in a franchise you no longer own the rights to.
so if Jim Henson was alive, and Jason Siegel brought him that script do you think he would have done it?
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