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dwmckim
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I really can't stress this enough - this is essentially a first draft script that was reviewed. Segal may have personally gone through several drafts before turning it in (i'd be surprised if he didn't) but from everything i can gather, this is beasically a review of the script that he handed to Disney. It will change. Almost no movie doesn't have a lot of substantial changes between first draft and screen.
What we have here is an undiluted example of SEGAL'S VISION of the Muppets. He obviously holds the classic 76-80 cast in high regard. Does this mean no post-'80 characters won't be in there (even as silent cameos?) "Computer says nooooo" - The Muppets' official home page prominently features "rooms" for Kermit, Piggy, Fozzie, Gonzo, Animal, and Pepe. TRUST ME ON THIS ONE! By the time it hits the screen, his part may not be as large as it has been in recent projects but it will certainly be more than three lines (And before anyone mentions it, yes Animal is one of the current "main 6" by that defination and he had one line in LTS ... but i'd say Aniaml is that "exception that proves the rule" - Animal is...Animal)
Since it was first announced that Segal would write the next Muppet movie, did ANYONE ever seriously think that there wouldn't at some point be input from the "official" Muppet writers? Segal turned in his script to Disney. That's Step One. Disney will have their comments and suggestions. It will at some point be shown to the major people in charge of The Muppets Studio - ie Lylle Breier, Kirk Thatcher, Jim Lewis et al - "The Muppet Writers" will play a part at some point in adopting "SEGAL's Vision of The Muppets" to "The Muppets written by Segal" (if that makes sense) - making what one man (albeit one very in tune with The Muppets as opposed to some random hack) pictures and making it more synthesized with what The Muppets are overall. This would be expected anytime an "outside" writer is contributing a script.
Also let's not forget a very major element of how any Muppet production is done whoever wrote it...it hits the performers who adlib and add things on set (or make suggestions) and these end up in the mix.
A first draft is still in relative terms, an outline (a very detailed one, but an outline nonetheless). The salad's only begun to be prepared with the lettuce now in the bowl. Other ingredients shall be forthcoming...
What we have here is an undiluted example of SEGAL'S VISION of the Muppets. He obviously holds the classic 76-80 cast in high regard. Does this mean no post-'80 characters won't be in there (even as silent cameos?) "Computer says nooooo" - The Muppets' official home page prominently features "rooms" for Kermit, Piggy, Fozzie, Gonzo, Animal, and Pepe. TRUST ME ON THIS ONE! By the time it hits the screen, his part may not be as large as it has been in recent projects but it will certainly be more than three lines (And before anyone mentions it, yes Animal is one of the current "main 6" by that defination and he had one line in LTS ... but i'd say Aniaml is that "exception that proves the rule" - Animal is...Animal)
Since it was first announced that Segal would write the next Muppet movie, did ANYONE ever seriously think that there wouldn't at some point be input from the "official" Muppet writers? Segal turned in his script to Disney. That's Step One. Disney will have their comments and suggestions. It will at some point be shown to the major people in charge of The Muppets Studio - ie Lylle Breier, Kirk Thatcher, Jim Lewis et al - "The Muppet Writers" will play a part at some point in adopting "SEGAL's Vision of The Muppets" to "The Muppets written by Segal" (if that makes sense) - making what one man (albeit one very in tune with The Muppets as opposed to some random hack) pictures and making it more synthesized with what The Muppets are overall. This would be expected anytime an "outside" writer is contributing a script.
Also let's not forget a very major element of how any Muppet production is done whoever wrote it...it hits the performers who adlib and add things on set (or make suggestions) and these end up in the mix.
A first draft is still in relative terms, an outline (a very detailed one, but an outline nonetheless). The salad's only begun to be prepared with the lettuce now in the bowl. Other ingredients shall be forthcoming...
I want more than anything for them to sucseed, but I really just cant get excited. I feel that if this does not work, then the Muppets truely are dead. But Ive also come to accpet that (As I know most of you cant and wont) but all the original wrighters are gone (IE Jerry Juhl) , some of the lead preformers are gone (IE Henson and Oz) and I just dont think anything can measure up to their touch and magic. (and I think that is the greatest complement you can give them) I mean even Brian has nothing to do with it anymore. It just cant be the same.