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"America's Next Muppet" mini-series in development

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, Sep 6, 2005.

  1. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter Well-Known Member

    Lassater's cool. It was great seeing him directing again for Cars!

    ... I was thinking about this the other day. Wouldn't be great if the Muppet performers were in charge of the Muppets? Unrealistic, yes, but imagine what it would be like if Steve Whitmire and Bill Barretta were in charge of what happened with the Muppets.

    Just my own fantasy put out there.
  2. sarah_yzma

    sarah_yzma Well-Known Member

    I've thought about that too! The bad part is that there has to be some sort of business mindset. Jim was naturally very smart in a business sort of way and I don't know about the Muppeteers. Maybe if it was a team of the Muppeteers combine with a business minded person who could advise when things weren't possible, it would work.

    I, personally, still admire Brian. I know that ship kinda sailed, but I think he's really learned to judge the lines between business and entertaining.
  3. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter Well-Known Member

    I had a theory as to why Brian had even sold the Muppets. Perhaps he felt the Muppets had become too big for the Henson britches. What I mean by that is that the Muppets are an awful lot to handle. Jim could handle it, as you said, but I think maybe Brian's creative side was getting drowned out, and that can be very frustrating. After all, look what's come from the Hensons now that the Muppets are gone. Brian seems to be doing alot of the kinds of things Jim would do before The Muppet Show, and seems to be having more fun with that.

  4. sarah_yzma

    sarah_yzma Well-Known Member

    I can see that. Brian is doing a fine job with what Henson still has (a darn fine good job) that I find it sad that he's happier with being in charge of smaller, lesser known, and therefor easier to maintain names. But ya know, it's kinda the same thing Jim was going for too with the original buyout.

    But I'm sure if he was in charge of creative development, with a Disney accountant to tell him 'yes' and 'no' it would be a lot easier on him.

    But I totally respect his decision.
  5. unclematt

    unclematt Well-Known Member

    Kermit probably had it right when he said that they needed nmore bears and chikens and dogs and birds and etc.
  6. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter Well-Known Member

    Ideal situation: total creative control without worrying about the business end.

    Of course, that doesn't happen often. Lord Grade pretty much gave that to Jim, then he was doing both.
  7. unclematt

    unclematt Well-Known Member

    Do you seriously think Disney will ever hire a Henson to be in charge of the Muppets. I dont
  8. a_Mickey_Muppet

    a_Mickey_Muppet Well-Known Member

    or them hiring HUGE Muppets fans like us would be a plus :smirk:
  9. sarah_yzma

    sarah_yzma Well-Known Member

    See I go either way on that one. Contrary to popular belief (and my own sometimes) Disney is not evil. If Brian does amazing work with his next few projects, Disney might want some of that success.

    It's all business.
  10. unclematt

    unclematt Well-Known Member

    That makes too much sence for Disney to do
  11. Barry Lee

    Barry Lee Well-Known Member

    I totally agree. They know the characters the best, heck, they perform them! But yea, they need to step up, and maybe take charge.
  12. unclematt

    unclematt Well-Known Member

    That would be great but again I think it is very unrealistic
  13. spcglider

    spcglider Well-Known Member

    That was what the original deal with Disney was all about back in 1990. Jim wanted them to take over the money matters so he could concentrate solely on being creative head. He'd no longer have to worry about distribution and marketing and such. He could just create.

    Then he passed away and the deal fell apart. Basically because Disney (Eisner)knew exactly what would happen next. The Muppets would flounder and they could get them at a later date for much less.

  14. unclematt

    unclematt Well-Known Member

    Do you really think that was part of Eisners plan
  15. Barry Lee

    Barry Lee Well-Known Member

    Thats a very interesting theory spcgilder, and I somehow agree. Jim acted differently before the time of his death, he probablly knew he needed to sell it to someone. Word on the street is he wasnt even to fond of the Disney company, and all of a sudden out of the blue, he sold it to them. Jim must have known something.
  16. unclematt

    unclematt Well-Known Member

    Well we all know that he had probablly not been feeling well for at least a little while before his death. What a terrible day. I can remember it so vividly.
  17. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    Yeah it's pretty much widely rumored that Jim was aware that he was going to die in advance, at least in some way. He did a lot to tie up loose ends. I'm not sure Disney was part of this though.
  18. unclematt

    unclematt Well-Known Member

    Wow I have never heard that
  19. spcglider

    spcglider Well-Known Member

    Probably not at the outset. With Jim in charge, the Muppets would have been a spectacular cash cow for the Disney Company.

    But it took several months for the official word to comedown that the deal had been scuttled. And who can blame Eisner? When the very heart of what you are buying is suddenly no longer in the deal, what's the point in buying?

    And yes... I remember EXACTLY where I was when I first heard about jim's passing.

    The Los Angeles Palms Hotel. What a pit. I had just finished visiting the shop of Robert Short (the guy who made all the armor for the He Man movie, as well as Captain Power, and SuperCop. He also made the pods for Cocoon.) It had been a great day until that moment. Several beers later, it still wasn't any better.

  20. unclematt

    unclematt Well-Known Member

    I really wish that Disney had completed the deal then and just let Brian and his siblings run things

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