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Are Ernie and Bert gay?

Discussion in 'Classic Sesame Street' started by mikealan, Apr 10, 2003.

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  1. Hays New Member

    I think people get upset about this not because of the sexual preferences, but because discussions about sexuality are wildly inappropriate for preschoolers, just like suggesting their parents will eventually die. I myself would have a problem if Sesame Street had open discussions of these topics, although I plan to discuss them with my son when I think he's old enough to handle the information. Frankly, think about it - you don't discuss heterosexual relationships with your kids in that context.

    None of this means I don't support homosexuals in their choice to do what makes them happy, nor would I ask them to hide their choice from my child, but it's still not an appropriate topic for preschool-specific television. Sesame Street clearly agrees with me on that point.
  2. Super Scooter New Member

    *AHEM!*

    :rolleyes:

    Once again, Byron misses the obvious...
  3. Clean Gultch New Member

    Have Bert and Ernie ever actually bathed together? Thats one of the arguments that people say to try and prove theyre gay. but ive never seen them bathe otgether.
  4. Hays New Member

    Well, I've never seen him in the bath with Bert, but if they're going to use that as an argument, think about "Do De Rubber Duck;" he's in there with a cow, 2 monsters, 3 or 4 men...

    Silly argument in general, no?:D
  5. sarah_yzma Active Member

    think of the nursery rhyme...

    rub a dub dub...three men in a tub....

    i don't see any threads about this...this is a bigger worry to me:eek:

    Sarah
  6. frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I feel it's a legitimate question to ask on the surface, but when you think about it for two minutes it just doesn't make any sense. I'm kind of offended that so many people seem have a problem with the question and fly off the handle. It's like saying, "I have no problem with gay people...unless they are in my family." Come one, you guys, let's be mature and fair on all sides of this. Reports from the Henson Company tell us they are not gay, but it's certainly not an insult. Steps off soap box. :( :p :concern:
  7. Kye Member

    So lets sum up what we have learned in this thread! This way, next week when someone posts it again, we can show them this page and all we be resolved.


    These will be considered Muppet Central Facts! Lets make sure nobody has any revisions!


    We, the People of Muppet Central, In order to clarify the coomonly asked question of Ernie and Berts Sexuality, hereby offer up these Undeniable statements that we believe are true! This, collection of truths, should finally put this common inquiry to rest.

    1. That Ernie and Bert are preschool aged, and therefore sexuality is not an issue

    2. That the creators of the characters have insisted that these characters were not now, nor ever, intended to represent a homosexual couple.

    3.That some muppet characters, do portray signs of having some sexual feelings, through dating, or flirtation, yet Ernie or Bert never shoed any of these signs, because, as stated in #1, they are children.

    4. That If a character was gay, which we have concluded that they are not, there would not be anything wrong with discussing it.

    5.that this case should now, forever be closed.

    We hold this Truth to Be quite obvious!


    I will start a new post where we can all sign this, but first, does anyone have anything to add or change???:p :(
  8. :confused:
  9. Zack the Dog Active Member

    The one thing I always bring up when asked this by people i know "because they know i'm a Muppet fan" is that Jim Henson and Frank Oz were very close friends, they were not Gay or anything just having fun with the puppets.

    Everyday people today in the younger geniration would most likey not know this, that Jim Henson voiced Ernie, and Frank Oz "who's Frank Oz?" voiced Bert, the same man that voiced Yoda from Star Wars as also Miss Piggy, Fozzie, Grover, Cookie Monster, Animal, and Sam the Eagle.

    I have people come up to me and say oh no! I know for a fact they are Gay!! and then i'll tell them this and there mouths shut and all is peaceful again ( not to be taken in an anti Gay way, I mean the person who is making jokes on it shuts up then;)


    Zack)Rowlf the, Sarah, i'm getting board with this, ya got anything new for the next 4 days? ...oh alright...We should all bow down to Sarah,dog.
  10. BoyRaisin2 Active Member

    So tired of this question...

    But still curious about the SS Muppets' "psychological age."
  11. Hays New Member

    Does anybody own a copy of 123, Count With Me? I think in the opening of the video, when Humphrey and Ingrid ask Ernie to take over the front desk, he says something about being six.

    Hope I didn't give the impression that I don't support people's right to make their own choices. I don't think it's an insult, either.
  12. Super Scooter New Member

    PEPE!

    Oy!
  13. sarah_yzma Active Member

    no we cannot forget good ol' Pepe!

    Sarah
  14. ScottMonster New Member

    I think that's because they find the question irritating more than anything else. This rumour about Ernie and Bert's sexuality has been circulating for quite a few years. It's been asked (and answered) countless times elsewhere on the internet. For some people it's a serious inquiry. But most of the time, it just gets asked out of silliness. It's getting a bit stale and to be honest I can't believe this thread has taken up three pages so far.
  15. frogboy4 Inactive Member

    In American culture, guys who spend that much time together are considered a couple. It's kind of sad that people only think in steriotypes, but I think it's cute when people dress up as Ernie and Bert for the parades here and for Halloween in the Castro. It's all in good fun, tounge-in-cheek-type humor. We all know they are just puppet best friends. Hey, why hasn't anyone ever questioned Statler and Waldorf? I know they have wives, but we hardly ever see them and they never invite them out. I'm certainly not questioning it, but I find it strange that the Ernie and Bert connection isn't made with them too. Maybe it's because they are old. :sleep: :boo:
  16. Pino Member

    I know the people who are in holland their voices are gay
    heeeheeeheee!:p
  17. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    No-no-no-no-no!!

    I wish this question would just DIE!!

    If I remember tonight, I have the official press release regarding htis somewhere (if I can find it) and a letter from (then) Children's Television Workshop.

    It is a letter regarding the 'gay' question and, after Jim died, the supposed 'retirement' of Ernie.
  18. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Can't agree more. That's why I am against this question. I mean, you can say any two male roommates living together are Gay, but they aren't. When I hear this question, I think of 9-12 year old boys saying... "Ernie and Bert are gay... and the Muppets suck. Come on, let's go watch Jack*ss and porn!!!" that's what makes me mad. Anyway, if it's an educated guess, I wouldn't mind, as long as you back it up with facts. Just don't assume....


    Of course, old people do hate their wives in those sorts of things!
  19. dcfboss New Member

    i just want to say that i think it's kind of interesting that in "do de rubber duck" ernie is in the tub, and bert comes knocking on the door with a towel. doesn't he know that ernie is in there?

    hmmmm

    lol ... but i don't think they're gay. i find it hard to believe that Sesame Street has been trying to sub consciously promote homosexuality through bert and ernie all these years
  20. Thijs Member

    not true, Paul Haenen is gay, but Wim T. Schippers isn't.
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