Are Kermit and Piggy married?

Here's a thought I had some time ago in A muppet chrismas carol I think the reason Piggy played Kermit wife is because tthey a really married. In the end of "Manhattan" they were married by a real priest. Also I believe that the two pigs and peter frog are they're children, any thoughts on this?

This has long been a part of the Muppet mythos...when TMTM came out, there were a whole bunch of press interviews showcasing the wedding scene with Piggy saying that they were now married since it was a real minister playing the part (and it was a real minister playing the "real minister") and Kermit saying it was a scene for a movie. They've actually riffed on this since TMTM promotion long passed. Though the kids in MCC aren't really their children - they've been noted in outside materials as being actors brought in to play their kids (much like Robin, Kermit's nephew, played Kermit/Bob's son)...one MCC book at the time even had a back cover listing the cast list of the movie...ie Bob Cratchet: Kermit, Fozziwig: Fozzie Bear, with the "real names" of the actors playing the Cratchet children included!

Personally, I'm in the "yes" camp. I can't help it. However, whether or not such a thing was LEGAL is a whole 'nuther matter.

Technically, it's just a surprise elaboration on Piggy's previous plot to sucker Kermit in TMS.

However, I'm glad that the arguing by Kermit and Piggy seems to have stopped. I agree with the performers who seemed irritated that that's the only thing people wanted to talk about. How they handled it in LTS is much better ... apart technically, but together emotionally. The "he said, she said" thing was funny the first couple of times, but then you start to feel that maybe they NEED to be apart if they can't even agree if they're a couple. It's not right to hold your frog or your pig in limbo that long.

Well, They're clearly dating now. In one recent interview I think I saw on Youtube (can't remember which one), the interviewer asked if she and Kermit plan to have kids and she said, "It's like the old saying goes. First comes love, THEEENNN comes MARRIAGE ... and THEN comes the baby... you know" She emphasized that they can't just go skipping steps. I think that was maybe one of three times I've ever heard her admit to not being married. I think, once she came out of denial, their relationship can finally have a change.
.. But all that past marriage talk ... Piggy was delusional.

I think that maybe Piggy did "trick" (I say "trick," but Kermit did end up willing to go through wiht it) Kermit into marrying her in The Muppets Take Manhattan, but Miss Piggy lied about her age on the marriage certificate, so it wasn't legal.

The way I see it maybe Kermit and Piggy bartered a deal...Kermit would admit they were in a relationship, if she would stop saying publicly they are married. Both these things have happened in recent interviews...Anyone notice Kermit being perfectly ok with a kiss on public television from da Pig? Loved that. And so maybe equally Piggy has laid a little lower with her tales of marriage.

As far as I am concerned, they are married...Piggy tricked Kermit into the marriage originally, but he's grown ok with it. In my opinion, they were married and comfortable in MCC (Although clearly those weren't their children). They seemed very comfortable together in MFC. And now finally they are back to being in a close relationship again.

They where almost married in the Muppet Show, but Kermit got out of it thanks to Lew Zealand. Jim's Kermit was more of a brotherly friend to Piggy, but Steve's Kermit truely digs the hamhawk.

That's believable.

I believe that the plan was to have Kermit and Piggy finally be married, but I believe that after Jim Henson died that story line got rebooted and we went back to Kermit not even acknowledging a relationship and Kermit and Piggy at the moment seem to have been rebooted in age as well, making them younger, maybe 20 something.

I think they are married, after all these years it seems at least they have a common law one :3. But I think of the movie marriage as real anyway .

Luckily Piggy has been quite direct in her responses since the film...That they are married.

Pity that, because she's a woman and a diva, she is more obviously assumed to be the missinformant in the case. Or perhaps because she told the Tounge Magazine she was engaged for years and it wasn't true...her reputation precedes her.

*lol* But he says it so often that you have to wonder...They have been dating so long that they pretty much are married though :\. At least, they never date anyone else, so they might as well be

I've paid a lot of attention to Kermit and Piggy's relationship, past and present, on account of the fact that it fascinates me. I'm aware that Piggy herself has, on rare occasions, implied that they're not married, and that the official company line is that they aren't married.

However... I do absolutely believe that wedding was real, and that Jim Henson himself intended on having the marriage be real. His untimely death really muddled things on that account, sadly. Well, that was sad for many many reasons, the effect on Kermit and Piggy's relationship being one of the least important.

I believe in the wedding, not just because of the wedding itself, but because of the publicity leading up to the wedding, and the aftermath of the wedding, all of which very much implied it was real.

Even Kermit has not been perfectly consistant in denying the marriage, and there are interviews out there from before Jim's death where he seems to be settled into married life. The first example that pops into my mind being his announcing that Piggy "is an interesting sight in lingerie." I also remember the screen test from the muppet movie, which admittedly was before the wedding itself, which even makes me wonder if they weren't married BEFORE MTM... but that's a totally different area of speculation. I don't really want to write a whole essay on the subject at the moment... but I could.

I DO have a semi written fanfic on the subject of the effect Jim's death had on Kermit, and Piggy. I'll post it, if I ever finish it.

And, I'm really rambling here. Sorry 'bout that.

I agree completely with the theory that Piggy may well have agreed to back off on the married talk in return for Kermit backing off of the professional relationship joke.
I'd also like to point out that Kermit is, in a fictiony sort of way (and why shouldn't I talk like that... we all are. Technically, they are puppets, if you want to stay out of imagination, and don't even know they exist, or anything else.) in charge of the company. He sold it out from under her nose (and what a nose!) as she complained at Muppetfest. Naturally, they would toe the frog's line.

I guess it's ultimately up to you what you'd like to believe about their relationship. Personally, I think the frog, as sensible as he seems, is more delusional than the pig ever was. She has, at the least, been more honest about her feelings than Kermit has about his own. (That he has feelings for her at one point or another, at least, is pretty hard to deny... and he has.) I think the biggest disservice the company ever did the muppets, and the muppets ever did themselves, was making Piggy into a clown. She is certainly bigger than life and overwhelming at times... but she's still a muppet, and she still has a good heart, worthy of respect. When the other muppets, Kermit especially, started treating her like an embarassing relative at a party, instead of with a kind of respectful teasing as there is between family and friends, then the world lost respect for them too. Not just Piggy... but Kermit. Hardly good for their popularity.

Of course, what with reality shows being so popular, maybe the days when respect counted for something in celebrity are dead.

I hope not, though, as I think they are finally back on track with the Muppets, and Kermit and Piggy's relationship. There's hope in the air, and it thrills me.

Suntan lotion... a Caribbean vacation for two. (Piggy would NOT be so pleased with that trip if they wereen't going alone!) They seem more than just flirting. It's an established relationship that feels very real, at least to me, and not like acting. (But then, Kermit's denials have felt more like shyness or acting to me.) That's a biiiig shift and I very much have felt like SOME change was coming. I wasn't sure whether it would be this way, or the oppostie way... them being just friends now. I much much prefer this way. Hooray! And I don't believe it's going away anytime soon. I think a lot of fans have gotten very tired of the "he says she says" thing, and I think Disney has heard that. I think this is a planned change, and I think that's why Kermit had a little psychology session with Dr. Phil. (Otherwise, it seems like an odd choice of show to plug the special) In any case, I'm very very happy about it.

So much for not writing an essay... admittedly, it's not thorough OR organised and so I wouldn't get a good grade. I'm enjoying this discussion though, so hopefully at least some of it will be thought-provoking.

Muppets take Manhatten was filmed in 1984.Jim Henson died some 6 years later, in 1990.So there was plenty of time to work things out.kermit said in an interview not long after, that it was only a movie.Personally, I think it is more fun to see them perpetially dating, than them settling down.As the saying goes, the best way to ruin a friendship is to get married!

I'm not sure the Muppets really have a concept of canon. They're more like the old Vaudeville skits or '30s comedy films, where you have the same characters in completely different circumstances each time (married then not married, cops then robbers etc).

I like to think they were married in MTM, especially since there was the cut scene that shows they were intending that. But that doesn't mean they're married in every other production.

What did they say on The Fantastic Miss Piggy Show? I thought that both addressed it on there to sort of clear the air about where they were at at that point.

I don't recall it being mentioned; just that there was clearly some romantic connection (and tension since Piggy was flirting with George Hamilton).

Piggy does call him "Hubby" in the 30th anniversary special though, hehe.

In many ways their movies are similar to that, kinda like the old Carry On films. However, with Muppet Movies there's always been two layers...The film, and the actors, who sometimes break out of character (think Duck pond fight in GMC). And the question is whether the Actors Piggy and Kermit are married. Sure, they can appear unmarried in another storyline or movie...But are they married behind the scenes?

Kinda like asking if the actors of the Carry On films, though they appeared flitatious on screen, were actually married.