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Behind the Scenes of "The Muppet Movie"

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by Was Once Ernie, Jun 24, 2005.

  1. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    You'd be amazed how many Ducks are harmed each year by people trying to find the tape thereon.

    (Duck tape? Duct tape?)
  2. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    The Phantom of the opera had similar problems...

    (Masking tape, wocka wocka!)
  3. Valentine

    Valentine Active Member

    I just read that whole thing. Pretty...no, I mean, REALLY impressive! Please, Fozzie, don't unsticky this because new people to the forum (like myself) wouldn't be able to see it because of the mass of threads daily posted on MC.

    Wow, less then 50 threads in and I already LOVE this place :)

    If you're reading this thread, Earl...Hi, and thank you VERY much for posting everything that you did! Just one question though...

    Do you have any tips or pointers as to how people can get involved and one day work for the Henson Co.? For my dream is to one day work as a Graphic Designer (or at least in the design department) for them. :D
  4. Was Once Ernie

    Was Once Ernie Well-Known Member

    Thank you very much for the compliments.

    I'm afraid there are no magic bullets to getting the dream job. Everyone takes a slightly different path.

    But the best advice I can give is to be the best Graphic Designer (or whatever) you can be. Get a job where you can meet people. Contacts in the entertainment industry are 95% of getting ahead. If you have the talent, knowing the right people can open the doors for you. Also, when you have the skills, don't be afraid to knock on the doors yourself. You'd be surprised who you can actually get to meet with.

    Hope this was at least a tiny bit of help. Good luck and don't be afraid to ask questions!
  5. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I've been wondering, since you have written for animation, have you ever considered writing for Henson? Maybe some Muppet productions of some sort.

    Have you ever wanted to write any animated segments for Sesame Street? Did you ever want to be a writer for Muppet Babies (or, assuming you've heard of these animated Henson series, Little Muppet Monsters, The Animated Fraggle Rock, or Dog City)?
  6. Chilly Down

    Chilly Down Well-Known Member

    While I can't speak for WoE himself, MinorMuppetz, I can assure you that usually, the want to write for a particular production or franchise outweighs the ability to get into the necessary loop! ;) It's just not that easy.

    You may be interested to know that WoE has written for a lot of Hanna-Barbera and Warner's cartoons. His credits include being a story editor on Yogi's Treasure Hunt, and a writer on Yo Yogi, Animaniacs, and Baby Looney Tunes. He currently writes for DC's Looney Tunes comics.

    But enough of my yapping. If WoE wants to divulge any more, the floor's all his!
  7. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Hey, there's another thread about WOE. What happened to it? It has a lot of autobiographical stuff in there.

    Hey, WOE, ever go around saying, "WOE is me?" I mean, those have become your initials now! :crazy:
  8. Was Once Ernie

    Was Once Ernie Well-Known Member

    I would love to write for the Muppets. I believe I have the experience and knowledge of the characters to write something that the fans would love.

    But, interestingly, your question jogged my memory of something else. Many years ago, myself and a group of young animators from Disney pitched the idea of doing our own animated segments for Sesame Street. Unfortunately, our timing was off and, while they were interested, they weren't taking any pitches just then. We never tried again.

  9. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    You should contact them all and try again. Couldn't hurt!
  10. Brinatello

    Brinatello Well-Known Member

    Hi, WOE, or Earl!

    First, I wanted to thank you SO much for sharing your Henson experience with everyone here! I love reading such stories as those. :) And believe it or not, I read through all 17 pages and have much to say, but I promise I'll try to be brief!

    Now, if you can answer two things about TMM, that'd be really awesome! I watched it recently and noticed during the dinner scene with Miss Piggy and Rowlf, Kermit isn't wearing his green collar! It's a lot more noticeable on the up-close shots. Why wasn't he wearing his collar in those scenes? I thought the collar was supposed to be like skin, or permanently attached to his body.

    Also, about Big Bird in the film. Carroll Spinney did in fact play him, but in the scene where Kermit and Fozzie encounter him on the road. Now, he told them he was heading out to New York to break into television, yet ends up in Hollywood at the end of the movie for the final scene. Is this considered a plot hole or did he change his mind and head west instead? :p

    And the mention of "AVENUE Q." I got the opportunity to see that show in Las Vegas last October with my friend, Michele Ivey. We absolutely LOVED it! I laughed so hard, I thought I was going to die in my chair. I honestly didn't feel Jim Henson's Muppets were degraded in any way. Like you said, it's a parody, and it was done so brilliantly. I ended up buying the soundtrack, the program, a tank top with, "More Drinks, More Fun!" and another tank top for my sister with, "Yeah, They're Real." Ivey is good friends with Rick Lyon and I had to email him personally to say how much we enjoyed the show. If I ever get the chance to see it again, I would!

    Okay, one more thing, I promise! In one of the pages back, you mentioned you were attending the San Diego Comic Con. You know? I've been going to that since 1994, PLUS have attended Mark's voice actor panel every time he has one! If you're going to the Comic Con this year, I'd like to meet you! Some friends and I are doing a cosplaying ensemble on Saturday. I won't reveal what it is, but we've been working hard at getting these costumes to look good!

    Hope that wasn't too boring!
  11. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    He didn't wear his collar in that scene? *stunned* Wow, seriously, that is a huge find! I can't beleive how many generations of Muppet fans have missed that fact...just wait till the fan-fiction writers get a hold of this...

    ILuVERNIE Well-Known Member

  13. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Kermit originally didn't have his color, and even after he got it, he occassionally didn't wear it, and often mentioned that it is a collar. His collar got stolen in the Crystal Gayle episode of The Muppet Show, and in one Muppet comic strip, Robin and his friends wear all of Kermit's collars around their waistes. Kermit mentioned that it was a collar in the Gladys Knight episode, and in The Best of Kermit on Sesame Street, Grover mentions that he is a frog "with a collar, but no shirt".

    ILuVERNIE Well-Known Member

    oh... interesting!
  15. Was Once Ernie

    Was Once Ernie Well-Known Member

    I'm afraid your first two questions could only really be answered by people that are no longer with us. If I had to make an educated guess, though, I would say Kermit's lack of pointy collar was an artistic decision, since all that would have been visible inside his shirt was a different color material.

    And my guess on the second question is that, at some point, I bet he made a wrong turn and wound up going the wrong way, ending up in Hollywood with the others.

    As far as Comic-Con goes, yes, I will be there again. In fact, look at this.
    Scroll down below the two pictures to where it says, "And more news:". I should also be at Mark's voice panel, although I don't know if I will have anything to do with it this year. Hope to see you there!
  16. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Well, if Big Bird travels the way Woodstock, another yellow bird, travels then the "wrong way" theory would definitely work.

    That, plus he's 6 and usually 6 year olds have bad direction skills anyways. That's why they trip over flat floors!

    Heh heh...
  17. KermieBaby47

    KermieBaby47 Well-Known Member

    Or maybe it was Big Birds' long lost cousin, Schmig Bird.

    Eh? Eh? :D

    I apologize.
  18. Brinatello

    Brinatello Well-Known Member

    Great answers! Thanks for doing that!

    Oh, a Pinky and the Brain/Animaniacs panel for the new DVDs! Awesome! And it starts at 4? I'll just be getting out of a panel, so I'll be able to make it! At 2-3:30 is a WB panel that's going to feature a trailer for the new Ninja Turtles movie and director, Kevin Munroe, is going to be there. My friends and I HAVE to see it! And then comes the other panel with you and the others. I've known Rob, Mo and Jess for several years, but I'm really looking forward to meeting you, Peter Hastings, Gordon Bressack, and Andrea Romano! Can't believe Preview Night is ONE week away! :excited:
  19. I loved reading this as well. It's the little things, behind the scenes, that make the movie more exciting to watch each time.

    Thanks! :)
  20. Was Once Ernie

    Was Once Ernie Well-Known Member

    Thanks for slogging through the whole thread! At times it's gotten a bit off topic, but there is still plenty of good information in it.


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