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Danger Mouse and Powerpuff Girls both announced for comebacks

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Drtooth, Jun 17, 2014.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Funny how these two shows manage to have announced revivals within a day of each other...

    Danger Mouse

    Powerpuff Girls.

    Personally, I'd rather Count Duckula than Danger Mouse, but I do enjoy both. Seems the major point will be that it's high tech somehow. While there's obvious room for the obvious complaints, let's agree that our own current technology absolutely hurts the spy genre's main trope of wacky gadgetry. As long as DM is high on verbal humor and Penfold is as cowardly as usual, sounds like this could be a pretty good series.

    As for PPG... well, I want to be excited for it, but I keep thinking "Season 6." You know, the season where they did episodes about not wearing sunblock and The Mayor became disturbingly (and unfunnily) stupid and childish? If we can get back to the glory days of seasons 1-4 level of writing and add some new villains in the mix, I'm all for it. Otherwise, I think they just about did all they could with the series, especially if you count the comics... though that first story arc of the IDW one should totally get an animated adaption.

    And I REALLY hope they don't make them as out of character as that last TV special. Temper Tantrums? Even Blossom? That was out of character even for the Mayor. Seriously... go watch Toast of the Town and try and defend it. It's mortifying.
  2. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    Can't say I'm too thrilled about the latter. I guess the ratings were so good for that one-off PPG special that Cartoon Network saw that as a demand for a revival. The big questions are, will Craig McCracken still be involved, and will it use the same papercraft art style as the special? From what I've heard, the CGI for the special was way expensive, causing it to be delayed, so probably not very cost-effective for CN.
  3. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I could honestly see a PPG series animated like the first (and arguably better special- they referenced an obscure Sesame Street skit for one). Something Wander/Fosters style flash without having to break the budget on ultra-stylized versions of the characters. Maybe save enough of the budget to do that alternate reality CGI episode they couldn't afford to do and just published as a comic.

    I'd be more excited for a PPG comeback if they'd find new angles for the characters. The super hero parody genre is overfull, and overfilled with junk lately. PPG was all about warping those kinds of tropes, often in delightfully twisted ways. At least, until the last season when they just had like one good episode and a so-so one that connected to the movie. As long as they can stay far away from that and give us some season 1-4 quality stuff, I'm all for it. If the Mayor is an unfunny baby, I'll pass.

    As long as they stay far away from PPG Z. It's not even playful enough to parody the magic girl tropes. Even the TMNT were more satirical in their Japanese incarnation.
  4. fuzzygobo

    fuzzygobo Well-Known Member

    I LOVED Danger Mouse back in its original 80's run (when Nickelodeon was only a part-time network, they didn't even have Nick at Nite yet!) and so much of the series still holds up 30 years later. If they do greenlight a new series, I hope they can do it justice.
  5. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Sounds like the major change is upgrades in spy technology. Cellphones and Smartphones really put a damper on the spy tech tropes, especially the goofy parody ones. The hoops they had to go through to get the Shoe Phone into the Get Smart movie.

    Other than that, I hope the changes are only on the technical and maybe cosmetic side. I hope to see essentially the same show with better animation. The original had a very small staff (and it was still more fluid than a standard Filmation cartoon). Oh, and I hope it gets to air in the US somehow.
  6. Mister Muppet

    Mister Muppet Well-Known Member

    I love Danger Mouse and I hope this new series will do him justice. Also I would love it if they bought back David Jason to voice him again.
  7. rowlfy662

    rowlfy662 Well-Known Member

    Seems like an image of what Danger Mouse will look like in this series. I was actually surprised it wasn't cgi. Love that they kept Penfold's eyebrows floating above his head.

  8. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    They look much nicer than the CGI papercraft looking PPG (to tie that into the thread too). Just a few cosmetic updates in the stylization department, but not by much.

    Looks Flash like too, which considering the animation from the first series wouldn't surprise me. Hopefully it'll have a nice flow to it. But as long as they remember the high amount of verbal humor in it, we're fine. They just better the heck air it in the US. Simulcast would be nice, but at least have Nick pick it up for old time sake.
  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

  10. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Details about Powerpuff Girls' revival have been released already, coming sometime in the 2015-2016 season, the news of Danger Mouse just popped up.

    The US will be able to enjoy the new Danger Mouse series as a Netflix exclusive coming in 2016. Stephen Fry is tagged to play Colonel K!

    Also a pleasant surprise, that's where DHX's new Inspector Gadget series will premiere! We're finally getting a revival in this country that isn't a Baby Nephew or a series of travelogues with Gadget pasted in. You know, cuz no network wanted to pick up Gadgetinis. Shame, since that show actually had some good angles to it.
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    The first images of the new PPG series have surfaced and thankfully, they look nothing like the CGI special. In fact, I love the look of the girls so far, but there's just one little problem I have.

    They're recasting everyone but Tom Kenny as the narrator.

    I'm trying to keep an open mind, but it's disappointing they went this direction. I'm sure they'd do a good job and all, but what's the point of giving them sound-a-likes when the original actresses are still around? Tara Strong is still in like half of everything. It's not even moving the voice production to Canada or using non-union freelancers that commonly do anime dubs for cost cutting measures.

    Still, I'm wondering why other than the money they'd bother doing a PPG remake anyway. It's not like the 6th season proved that there's many more stories to tell, especially since one of the episodes was about sunscreen safety.
  12. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    I'm liking these new rounder, cuddlier designs, and the little beaded scrunchies in Bubbles' pigtails to go along with the hair clip in Blossom's ponytail. But it is disappointing to hear about the mass recasts. I could understand them recasting Tara Strong as she's stretched about as thin as Tom Kenny, but the others? Are they doing anything else notable as of late?

    Anyway, I'd still like to see how this new PPG series would turn out. The new VAs could do a very good job and even make the characters their own, and the writers could squeeze some good concepts out of the series.
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    The recast thing is the only thing baffling to me. They're trying to make the series as new as possible, yet keeping the distinct look similar. I don't get it. if it was hugely different, like that dumb anime they did, I'd see it. But it seems they want to go in the direction of redoing the original with new voice actors, but keeping with the spirit of the original that's not that old to begin with.

    I have decent hopes for the series, and I'm still going to check it out. Just... why the recast? It's not like they're Looney Tunes characters that can be recast at will for some reason. I hope the new cast does a good job and all, but still... not like these are 90 year old women who don't have the same delivery and voices they had when they were 20 we're talking about.

    Also of note, CN is relaunching Ben 10 for some reason. It somehow has the added "we're introducing it to a new generation" bit when the last show just ended this year. And with a Robots in Disguise/Sonic Boom way too early in the morning slot to boot. They even used imagery of Ben in the Christmas bumpers.
  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Okay...uh, while the show isn't officially supposed to hit the US until next spring, Danger Mouse has already started airing in his home of origin, the UK. And thus...cough cough unofficially available if you look for it. BUT you didn't hear it from me, and I'll check this out again once it hits Netflix (provided the account I'm sharing with keeps getting funded)

    So far, it's similar, yet different to the original. There's still a lot of verbal humor, but there's much more physical humor and action due to the fact this series is 2D computer generated, but of the higher, fluid quality. Danger Mouse seems to be a tiny bit more Darkwing Duckish, but Penfold's essentially the same. The episode essentially makes fun of the fact it's a reboot, yet it's one of those very soft ones that sort of continues the original. What I'm loving is how Stiletto is handled. While he had an Italian accent (a bawdy one at that) in the original one and the supposed Nick version had him redubbed with an English one (the only evidence I know of that happening is the Marvel comics), they handle things a bit more...interestingly. He kinda has both accents. A (purposely) very bad Italian accent mixed with a natural British one. And obviously this is a little more pop culture-y than the original. There's a Jimmy Camel interview with Baron Greenbacks. I'm assuming the Brits get Jimmy Kimmel or something, sounds like it's a nod to this being aired a few months later in the US. And the narrator still adds some wry observations at the end of the show, just not over the ending credits.

    Over all, it's shaping up to be pretty good so far. I hope that in time they bring back Count Duckula on the show. And not the Count Duckula from Count Duckula, the original Count Duckula created for Danger Mouse (the character was different, as DM fans know).
  15. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    I've never seen the original Danger Mouse growing up, so I had to watch a few episodes to get myself acquainted with the series. And after watching the premiere episode of the reboot, they managed to reboot it the right way. Character personalities are more or less the same apart from minor character Professor Squawkencluck re-imagined from a male mole to a female chicken, likely to add more diversity and a more fitting species for the character. Seems like she'll play a bigger role in the new series, too.

    Animation-wise, DM looks really good, taking advantage of the lower cost that Flash and other digital animation software provides, yet not using it as an excuse to cut corners in the quality (though it still uses live-action BGs like the original) and using plenty of excuses to add more visual humor that the original couldn't provide due to budget reasons. Of course, this is from the same company that provided the subcontracting work for Gumball, so that's no surprise there.
  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    It's really saying something that a computer generated 2-D animated reboot has more animation and action than the original cel-animated series. But then again, the production on the original was small. They had 7 animators working on that show, so obviously the animation was reused a lot and that's why the humor of the show skewed more to the verbal side of things.

    As you know my little rant about 80's Nickelodeon, it took me until Youtube to see any episodes of the original. I didn't see the whole series (the original has been on Netflix recently as well), but saw several episodes and loved it. While I don't have that nostalgic hold on the series, I was able to pick up on some of the nuance. The new show changed a couple things and the humor is both similar and modernized. I'm sure some 30 year olds who watched the show back in the day will have some disapproving clucks, as of course they do. But so far, this is shaping up to be an excellent soft reboot/continuation series.
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Seems Danger Mouse's comeback is bigger than we thought. Sony has expressed interest in a DM movie.

    Now, all I can say is ehhh. It's Sony, and they don't have quite a great track record I think. And Genndy pretty much said he walked off of Popeye (but didn't leave Sony) because they wanted to modernize Popeye and he wanted no part of it. And considering they said "Darnit! Those Angry Birds and Bad Piggies need mars and legs," I'm interested in a film, but not really enthused until more details come to light. DM has a barely cult following in the states anyway.
  18. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    What do you mean by that? Set in the modern day or making modern pop culture references or what?
  19. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    He was very vague.

    His quote is:

    Not very promising. I'll reserve judgement until the first actual trailer.
  20. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Isn't this like the third of fourth reboot PPG has had? Why can't any of CN's other classic properties get the same kind of love and attention?

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