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Disney Takes Muppet Script Through Pixar

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by theprawncracker, Jul 22, 2010.

  1. MelissaY1

    MelissaY1 Well-Known Member

    See, I guess I'm in the minority, because I hated VMX movie as I thought the humor felt forced and tried to jam in too much stuff that was popular at the time it came out. LTS was a little bit more of an improvement, but was still missing something in my mind.

    Muppets From Space is the worst lol
  2. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member

    I know exactly what you mean. I hate it too.

    So with that in mind, it doesn't hurt to mention it again;


    I'm sorry to act so harsh but really guys, this is getting ridiculous. STOP mentioning it. :rolleyes:

  3. AndyWan Kenobi

    AndyWan Kenobi Well-Known Member

    So . . . you're saying that the new Muppet movie will be CGI?

  4. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member

    Ha, ha... :smirk:
  5. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member

    Besides Tron Legacy, I certainly hope that Disney will look to Pixar for advice on more of their live-action films.
  6. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Looks like they are about to start filming on the muppet movie rather soon(see very bottom of this interview)

    There were a few things about Very Muppet Christmas that I liked, chiefly the scenes that take place in the theater. Same with MFS, I really loved the first part of the film(until it gets into the government agent stuff) And I liked LTS a lot, but as has been pointed out it feels extremely truncated. LTS though has a definite film look to it, which is nice.
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    With... out... a... doubt! I said that before, actually. They were burned badly by that summer movie I mentioned, but people are STILL seeing Toy Story 3.
  8. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member

    The one thing that I hate is that someone made a comment on that article (page 2) saying that the Muppets are
    "a stupid reboot of a long-and rightfully-dead franchise."

    That really got my blood boiling.

    Anyone who hates the Muppets has no soul.
  9. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member


    Heck, most of Disney's live-action movies have always been corny.

    "The Cat From Outer Space"

    "Blackbeard's Ghost"

    Just to name a couple.
  10. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I find much of the weird (and rare) Muppet hate actually comes from a distain of puppets and not the Muppet brand or projects as a whole. I've even heard some equate Muppets to clowns. Clowns are just plain creepy IMHO and have nothing to do with Kermit and the gang. Some people are just going to hate. However, the Muppets do have a way to go to rehabilitate their image to the masses. There has to be a reason to make a Muppet movie other than the fact that Muppets are featured. There has to be a good story to tell, quality songs and timeless humor. Most post-Jim projects have been lacking in one or more of those departments so it’s a good thing Pixar is throwing some suggestions at it.
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    And some people are just little nasty schmucks that want to ruin everything for everyone. It was probably some 12 year old spam kid or some reality TV junkie or something.

    In my opinion, the only "stupid reboot" of a "rightfullty dead franchise" would be a movie that was made 20 years ago that no one really liked when it first came out. Not that I believe that, mind you... but we're talking about a movie that some of us are waaaay too young to remembe (or at least see in theaters) and only had a slow moving cult following.

    There's so much disdain for magic posing as "grown up machoness" that just gets under my skin. If you want to tear something down critically with instances and a reasoning behind it, by all means... but this is soulless anger from someone who probably can't wait for Saw 16 because he enjoys watching people getting ripped to shreds. I'm sorry, but some of it does sound like someone's got a psychological hatred of something that was created to make people happy. Jim Henson wanted to entertain people in the purest sense... and to have some nasty little puke rip part of his life's work down because of some deep seated hatred of puppets or childhood things that don't scream masculine that they probably strapped toys to rockets when they were moody teens anyway.

    Or it could be that schmuck that was spamming us back in 2004. :batty:
  12. ZeppoAndFriends

    ZeppoAndFriends Well-Known Member

    That doesn't really get MY blood boiling (in fact, it makes me kind of sad), but what does is the fact that I've seen several people saying that they should make it R-rated quote/unquote "because all of the Muppet fans have grown up" or because "it would be hilarious". :mad:
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Jeez. They just want to watch Collegehumor the movie, don't they. HAHAHAHA Pop culture references having sex and doing drugs. That never got old. Never! :grouchy:

    Seriously... a lot of the stuff that's "adult" is more immature than people realize. And frankly, we'd never want a true adult Muppet movie... them talking in French whining about the plight of some hard to pronounce country's farmers while they sip expensive whine... :smirk:
  14. ZeppoAndFriends

    ZeppoAndFriends Well-Known Member

    You misspelled 'wine'. :o
  15. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    If I want puppets gettin' nasty, I can watch Meet the Feebles or listen to my Avenue Q soundtrack. (Both of which I like, although MTF makes me cringe on so many levels.) No need to take The Muppets in that direction. Officially, that is...

    If the movie is nearing the filming stage, great! Hopefully that means that they took Pixar's crits, used them to improve on the script, and are moving confidently on to the next stage.
  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    But my point goes across still... right?

    A true "adult" movie ( and this is strictly something I stole from The Simpsons) is one of those artsy fartsy movies that people pretend to like because they're insultingly pretentious and people think that pretentious= "people will think I be smaterer than I is!" Plus, things also have to be in credibly depressing too.


    As for so called adult comedy... that stuff was a LOT funnier when it was implied. Case in point... Ren and Stimpy. The kid's version merely hinted at their relationship in a "Holy crap! They got away with it?" double entandre that went over kids heads. Where as Adult Cartoon party actually showed it, and it wasn't clever at all. Anything that basically says stuff animation fans said in the 90's in bold loud letters for long periods of time just lost its charm. I'm hoping no one wants a detailed list.

    Avenue Q isn't even just "puppets being nasty" as we all know. There is just so much satire and social commentary in it, it's not just the lame juxtaposition of kiddy fare in adult situations. They're actually sating important stuff. Everyone's a little bit racist? No one had the guts to say that for realz. But you put it in a Broadway musical parody of Sesame Street, and people are singing it. Even the Dinosaurs was very much in that vein. Why they questioned religion, mocked politics to the nastiest degree (basically saying both sides are controlled by the same figure heads to give people the illusion of choice, and putting a buffoon as a candidate for the other side... even mocked trickle down theory), dealt with sex AND sexual harassment, and they even openly mocked Scientology long before South Park.

    Of course, those people would rather see Lion-O on a date with He-Man. YAAAAAAAWN :sleep:
  17. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member

    I gotta say that was one of the most hilarious episodes of all!

    Especially Mr. Richfield's big explosion at the end when Earl is revealing everything.
  18. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    One thing I've learned writing Dinosaurs fics is ... it's HARD matching their sense of humor.

    And since some moron (lol, j/k) put Timmy Turner in my head recently ... could you even imagine that show being a live action movie? They get away with just about as many jokes as Dinosaurs, with their jokes just being more "sparkly" most of the time. My brother and I were constantly surprised with the kinds of jokes that passed censors on that show. You could write an entire dissertation on gender relations alone.
  19. ZeppoAndFriends

    ZeppoAndFriends Well-Known Member

    I'd like to make a small correction to this.

    The person who made the statement about all Muppet fans being grown up thought they shouldn't go R-rated, they just thought Disney should shoot for a PG-13 rating.

    Either way, they're all missing the point of the Muppets, which is to be quality FAMILY (key word) entertainment. Not just for kids, not just for adults, for EVERYONE! Is that so hard to comprehend! :grouchy:

    Now, back on the point, I'm surprised that nobody has yet mentioned Frank Oz's role in Monster's Inc. with all the talk of Pixar and their love and respect for the Muppets.

    Yes it did, I'm just a stickler for correct spelling. It's one of my bad habits, really.

    No, but they're doing it anyway.
  20. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Frogboy, in the mind of the detractors, they never could have gotten what the Muppets are all about. The Muppets have always been relevant, quirky, irreverent. They are not, as some "fans" think in their minds, purely beholden of the 70's and early 80's. they are unlike any franchise in the history of the world; comparisons to Disney, Looney Tunes, etc by people have no merit. It's one of those things where you either get it or you don't, and for those people who see the Muppets as some once cherished relic of the past...well, I guess they just can't see the magic.

    So Toy Story 3 is worth seeing? Ive never in my life seen a film get so over marketed; so I was a little weary of it by the time it came out. But I'll see it.

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