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Emmet Otter Special Edition coming to DVD

Discussion in 'Family Worlds' started by Phillip, Jul 6, 2005.

  1. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    Talked with a representative from HIT today and found out some good info on the upcoming release of Emmet Otter's Jug-band Christmas. The DVD will include a lost song, bloopers and behind-the-scenes documentary with the cast and crew. You can also see the first preview on-line of the new cover

    As Greg mentioned earlier, reports are currently that the Kermit scenes will be edited out, but hopefully all other scenes (including those not in the 1998/2001 Columbia release) will be restored here.

    http://www.muppetcentral.com/news/2005/070605.shtml
  2. a_Mickey_Muppet

    a_Mickey_Muppet Well-Known Member

    hey gang,

    WOW awsome News Phil, just got out of work, kinda of a bad night but got home got on MC to see a nice :excited: to come home too!

    thanks, oh and I WILL be buying a copy for me & the libirary! :)
  3. Erine81981

    Erine81981 Active Member

    I don't know if I'll be buying it because of Kermit being cut. I'm sorry I love this speical very much but with two sences cut being that its Kermit's then I hate it. I hate when something like this has to be. I just wished that Disney would be let it be and let Henson use Kermit. Its not fair that Kermit (who is one of the belovest characters) has to be cut? Sorry to keep ranting on but when something like Kermit can't be in a speical even tho he isn't part of the story line why did Henson in the first place put him in there. Thats whats going to happen to Kermit's sence when "Christmas toy" comes out. Down with Disney because of this. I like disney but when they chop up one of my favorite christmas speical. Then its on! :mad:
  4. muppet_dk

    muppet_dk Active Member

    Well if they include the stuff cut from the last release then it would be possible to edit ones own complete version :)
  5. Muppetsdownunder

    Muppetsdownunder New Member

    Its good news but it sure would be simpler to include the full uncut version, they always have to cut!
  6. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I don't think Disney is not allowing to have kermit in the special. I now that Hit believes that it wouldn't be worth the time, effort or money to make a deal with Disney just to include two small scenes with kermit. I think kermits scenes would be easy to edit without affecting the storyline. Of course, I have heard that the DVD release of Dog City kept the Rowlf scenes uncut. If hit made a deal to include rowlfs scenes, I wonder why they didn't negoriate for kermit at the time they were negotiating for Rowlf. after all, Dog City didn't have to be released. It wasn't released on video when the animated series was being produced, Disney didn't release it when Disney was releasing henson programs, and Sony didn't release it when it had the video rights to various henson productions.
  7. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    No, it wouldn't I have read that Kermits ending scene was cut on the last DVD release as well, so if you want to edit the DVDs to have a complete copy, you would also have to edit a video release as well.

    I wonder if all of these special features are going to be included so that fans who already have the DVD release would want to buy it again? or to cheer up fans who wanted Kermit on the release?

    I wonder if Hit will ever release The Animal Show episode with Sam The eagle, or any episodes of Donnas Day with The Swedish Chef? would Hit edit the swedish chefs parts out? (after all, I think his appearances are more like guest appearances)
  8. a_Mickey_Muppet

    a_Mickey_Muppet Well-Known Member


    1st Off its NOT Disney's fault! Its HIT!'s fault, they DIDN'T wana take the time or money to have to monkey around with Disney. So don't blame Disney man :sympathy:
  9. a_Mickey_Muppet

    a_Mickey_Muppet Well-Known Member

    Ya know, I was just thinking the SAME THING! about cheering up the fans i mean! :confused: ;) I also wonder why Disney didnt get rights to Emmit Otter?
  10. Erine81981

    Erine81981 Active Member

    I was just mad. I didn't seem to care who's fault it was. When Kermit's in a speical and they edit it out and Disney own's Kermit and freinds then thats why I would get mad at Disney. So then I guess I'l change it. "I hate HIT!"
  11. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    *Chuckling. And then you'll love them all over again when Season 1 of FR gets released in September.

    Man, it certainly paid to get my complete VCD copies of Emmet Otter and The Christmas Toy, and almost unedited MFC from my great Canadian buddy.
  12. petrieboy

    petrieboy Member

    Upset.

    This is ridiculous. People hope for re-releases for years, and companies hardly ever get it right.

    Why didn't Henson or HIT think about releasing dvds BEFORE selling over to Disney? They could have released Emmet last year in its full length, unedited. It's pathetic that we don't get to see Kermit narrating-that's part of the magic of this special, and now it's stripped down and ripped apart. Now I wish I never sold my old version, which I did only because I knew it was coming back on dvd. I'd rather have Kermit than an extended song. But why should any fan have to choose? By the time they get it right, children will be grown, fans will be dead... and what's the point? If companies really believed in Henson, and in the magic of Christmas, they'd have a heart when it comes to something like this. How the same companies spew out tales of Scrooge and tales of giving during the holiday season and simultaneously seek to make quick money would be funny if it weren't so disheartening.

    HIT got it right with Fraggle Rock. Disney got it right with The Muppet Show. It only took about a decade of dvd to figure those out- and watch- their monetary returns are going to baffle them, when fans had it figured out from the start.

    HIT... YOU STILL HAVE TIME TO MAKE IT RIGHT. BURN YOUR DISCS BEFORE AUGUST (better yet if you haven't produced any yet) AND GIVE US KERMIT.
  13. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I don't know either, but think for a moment. Disney got The jim Henson Companys ownership of the Muppets, not the entire company. If Disney were to get the rights to certain productions just becasue a character that is considered a Muppet made a significant cameo in it, or just because the word Muppet is in the credits, then Disney might as well buy the entire company (or at least everything besides TimePiece, the Cube, Youth '68, Family Rules and anything with creations from the creature shop).

    If Disney got productions based on minor appearances of muppets, then Disney would have gotten everything. Many characters from The Muppet Show frequently appeared on The Ghost of faffner hall and Mopatops Shop. should disney have gotten the rights to those shows? kermit was a main character on sam and friends. shoudl disney have gotten that? (in a perfect world, yes, in a normal world, they didn't) jaques Roache appeared on The Jim henson Hour but later had a more major role as Yves St. la Roache on The Animal Show. should Disney have gotten the rights to the animal show? (more likely, Henson probably owns the rights to this character) The swedish Chef made regular appearances on Donnas day after the first season. Should Disney own Donnas Day? (i haven't seen the show, but I think his appearances are more like guest appearances, and Disney doesn't own any of the muppets guest appearances on any show, except the ones that Disney already owns).

    I don't think crossovers should count. A Muppet family Christmas, The Muppets: A Celebration of Thirty years, The Muppets celebrate Jim henson, the sesame Street character appearances on The Muppet Show and Muppet Movies and Sam The Eagles guest appearance on the animal show are more like cross-over appearances, and ownership shouldn't be a problem. Disney owns most of those productions because they use the muppet name and because the muppets are more prominant than the characters from other productions (in A Muppet family Christmas, the sesame street characters don't appear untill maybe the second half of the special, the fraggles don't appear untill later, and doc and sprocket are supporting characters).

    I think Disney would have owned the Dog City episode of the Jim Henson Hour (which heavily featured rowlf) if it weren't for the fact that it was adapted into a saturday mornign series. I am not sure whether Disney would have gotten The Christmas Toy if there was no Secret Life of Toys.
  14. a_Mickey_Muppet

    a_Mickey_Muppet Well-Known Member


    YIKES!!!! hahah come down pal! :excited: I just wondered why thats all, like I tell my sister I just want an ancer NOT a story lol :p but... thx for the help
  15. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Active Member

    Unless they cut the word "Muppet" from everything.
  16. rexcrk

    rexcrk Active Member

    I don't know if I've ever seen Emmet Otter but I do know who he is (one of the songs was on my Sing-A-Long tape when I was older). I probably won't get the DVD but hearing about how they cut out Kermit just plain stinks :boo: :sympathy: I hate the editing of ANYthing :mad: , unless it's for the better (like making sound and picture quality better without actually changing anything)
  17. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I think jim Henson wanted kermit to be a part of every special he worked on, or maybe he wanted kermti to narrarate the specials that didn't feature regular characters.

    after all, kermit narrarated tales of the tinkerdee, the frog prince (i would consider him to be the narrarator, since he introduces and closes the special), the muppet musicians of bremen, emmit otters jug-band christmas, the christmas toy, and mr. willobys christmas tree. I don't know why kermit didn't narrarate tale of the Bunny Picnic. He also didn't narrarate hey, Cinderella, but he did have a big part.

    back then, the jim henson company owned kermit, and didn't think that some day the rigths to kermit would be sold to another company while the jim henson company would still be a seperate buisness.
  18. Erine81981

    Erine81981 Active Member


    Pretty much no why I just was meadforlay (can't spell good) speaking. I'm just saying. I might buy it but I would't be buying it for extra stuff. I don't want it because its has new clips or new song just becasue I wnat to see how they choped it all up to bits and pieces.
  19. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    OK... Reason why TOTBP wasn't narrated by Kermit is cause...
    Well, it's the Bunny Picnic. So it made sense to have one of the bunnies from the original picnic to narrate the flashback story of the special itself. The narrator of TOTBP was Grandpa Bean, Bean Bunny aged to grandfatherly form with some added bunnies hearing to his every word as he told the tale from his youth.
  20. Gorgon Heap

    Gorgon Heap Active Member

    Quick question- I've can't remember for certain what kind of animals Harvey and Charlie are, though I think their last names are mentioned in the Nickelodeon cut (I just watched the Columbia edit). Anyone remember? I thought Harvey was a woodchuck and Charlie was a Muskrat (perhaps Hettie Muskrat's son), but if anyone can tell me for sure it'd be appreciated.

    David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole


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