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Empire acquires rights to Jim Henson screenplay

Discussion in 'Henson People' started by GelflingWaldo, Feb 4, 2008.


What do you think of Empire acquiring the rights to the Henson screenplay?

  1. The movie is a great idea. I hope that it gets produced.

    44 vote(s)
  2. I'm concerned that it can be done well and will honor Jim.

    26 vote(s)
  3. It's not worth doing if either Disney or Sesame don't support the movie.

    15 vote(s)
  4. I don't want to see it. Hollywood will likely misrepresent Jim’s life.

    9 vote(s)

  1. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I think they could partner up. Films these days usually have five minutes of various company logos before they actually start! Empire could shoot it and Disney could pick it up and handle the release and advertising. Just a thought. That would give Empire the right to use Muppet characters and Disney a bite at some profits, or is that a little unlikely?
  2. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    I would have said yes but looking at Empires background and business model i think they aren't in the same league and the whole point to them is that they make indie films for small budgets (usually 5-10m) and making them financially attractive for investors by filming in countries with tax breaks - so the whole point to them is that are a small budget alternative to major studios with direct to dvd, tv, and limited indie theatrical distribution. Nothing they've done yet has had major success but the quality looks ok.

    They've just also optioned a Marvin Gaye biopic exactly the same but i'm not sure whether they have his image rights as they use the term (with Henson as well) "life story rights", which could just mean a script, or could mean trademark rights. That's why i thought they were probably looking more for Henson involvement as a co-producer than Disney but i'm sure if there was any chance of that it would have been done prior to us hearing about it and we would have heard from Nicole Goldman. So it seems more like they are trying to go it alone, at least they don't look all that sensationalist to me.

  3. SesameStMuppets

    SesameStMuppets Well-Known Member

    I think we're all saying the same thing.... The integrity of all parties has to be there. Disney can't harm the future of the Muppets, which like it or not is in their hands. Empire can't harm the past which they've taken responsibility of.

    Personally, the movie's a great idea. Realistically, though, a movie to recreate the past is hard. Doing it to recreate real celebrities/ idols is harder. To completly remake an entire cast of beloved characters and the people performing them (to my knowledge) has never even been done. It seems hard. But let's not forget that we're dealing with a man who could get a frog on a bike, a pig to swim, and a bird to bring peace to a foreign country. Simple is good, and nothing is impossible!

    Also, as much as I don't feel he particuarly has the maturity to handle the role, I thought of a person who may beable to take on Caroll Spinney. He may be too short, but David Spade really has some of the same features that Caroll has, especially from Sesame Street's early years. I can see him attempting the characters too; similar voices. Just an idea...

    Opinions welcome. New ideas highly anticipated!
  4. peyjenk

    peyjenk Well-Known Member

    I don't mean to attack anyone's ideas, but to be honest, any movie that headlines Drew Carrey, David Cross, and David Spade is not one that I want to see... even if they are playing Muppet folks.
  5. BEAR

    BEAR Well-Known Member

    Who said anything about David Spade? Yuck!

    And one of the other reasons I did suggest Drew Carey is that he's a good family household name. He has a good image.
  6. froggiegirl18

    froggiegirl18 Well-Known Member

    I just wanted to say that those that posted about Jeff Daniels, Ryan Gosling playing Jim would be a great idea. I also like the title "Jim" opposed to just "Henson". It does have a better feel to it. Also I think it could work either way as movie shown on tv,or just a show with a season or two or theatrical. As for teaching the actors puppetry, there are also ways to skirt around that issue to, camera angles and editing, got to love it. As for getting it made why don't we as a fan base write to the Henson company about it showing,letting them know are interest. We may be few and far between but we sure can create hype to those who are just general puppeteering/muppets/Jim Henson fans. Just a few thoughts. I really hope this does go through and they start working on it. I think in the right hands it really could be a great film/show. It would also be neat if someone also does a Disney bio. I would love to see both. Both were great men and have left a wonderful legacy.
  7. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets Well-Known Member

    Do you think Disney could do a Disney bio
  8. peyjenk

    peyjenk Well-Known Member

    Why, yes, I think they could. ;)
  9. unclematt

    unclematt Well-Known Member

    I can not wait for Henson to hit the theatres. I may be more excited about this film than the new Muppet film that is being written.
  10. ChickyBoy37

    ChickyBoy37 Well-Known Member

    This is so exciting! :) :super:
  11. uppitymuppity

    uppitymuppity Well-Known Member

    Christian Bale as Jim Henson

    I'm sorry, I know i've been over this before. I just happened to run across this photo. Doesn't Bale have an uncanny resemblance to Jim? It wouldn't be a stretch to make him Henson.

  12. wes

    wes Well-Known Member

    Yea a Really scary Creepy Jim Henson, He is the Henson that Creeps in the night! HE IS BAT-HENSON (that was a stretch I know):)
  13. uppitymuppity

    uppitymuppity Well-Known Member

    Thank you Wess. I like Bale but,find him earily similar to Henson as well. He could do it right.
  14. unclematt

    unclematt Well-Known Member

    I really hope this gets made. It is super important to me.
  15. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    Didn't they say they wanted to be in production with this by the Summer?
  16. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Empire Film Group: exposure

    :search: I was reading Blu-ray.com and found a little article about Empire (the film company with the Henson bio film rights). This has nothing to do with the Henson film, but it does show that they are a young company on the rise with real prospects. However, they are not as established as others. Releasing anything on Blu-ray shows they have some healthy investors.

    Empire Film Group Announces Blu-ray Support
    Posted June 16, 2008 08:13 AM

    Empire Film Group has announced that they will be releasing their content, which includes the recently revealed Dakota Fanning and Robin Wright-Penn film 'Hounddog' on Blu-ray disc this January. Don't feel bad if you haven't heard of the studio; 'Hounddog' will be their first theatrical release with two more planned by the end of the year.

    Obviously, its way to early to talk about specs and special features when the film isn't set to hit theaters until September, but rest assure, once these titles get official Blu-ray dates, we'll have the info.

    It's a rather weird and dark film (sounds like an indie picture) but it does have name stars. That gives me a little more confidence in this Henson project. For them it would be quite a jewel in the company cap. :wisdom:
  17. Robin

    Robin Well-Known Member

    David Cross as Frank Oz
  18. Vic Romano

    Vic Romano Well-Known Member

    Hmm, this is one of those things that's got me so excited, I don't know yet how I feel about it. Too many questions right now. I can't believe something like this hasn't been done yet, like even a made-for-tv movie. Let's put it this way; it needs to be done, the concern is will it be done right? I think of the John Denver movie and how much that upset people. Speaking of which, I was really surprised Jim wasn't featured in that movie, or Ray for that matter, although I'll admit that's me being a bit biased.
  19. unclematt

    unclematt Well-Known Member

    I hope this is done well but Henson nor Disney are endorsing this movie if we ever see it
  20. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Well any Jim Henson film of quality and accuracy would have to go through the Henson Legacy first, then it would likely filter through the Henson Company (a separate entity) that would likely bring in Sesame Workshop and then finally Disney would have to endorse use of the Muppets. For a while the Henson Company could use Kermit in certain contexts before requiring Disney's okay. I mean they did keep the Kermit statue at the Henson/Chaplin studios, but they did cut poor Kermit out of the Emmet Otter Jugband Christmas reissue.

    Gaining approval from the Jim Henson Legacy is not the easiest "rubber stamp" task. They are in charge of maintaining Jim's legacy and that's a very delicate thing. I don't think the other three companies would lend support without the Legacy - and that would be crucial. Films about other personalities wouldn't require as much cooperation because they don't depend so heavily on seeing so many copyrighted characters alongside the star.

    I don’t remember how this deal was reportedly brokered, but Jim was immersed in his work so much that there could be no Jim Henson film without Kermit, Rowlf, Ernie and tons of other felt and foam silly creatures.

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