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Empire acquires rights to Jim Henson screenplay

Discussion in 'Henson People' started by GelflingWaldo, Feb 4, 2008.


What do you think of Empire acquiring the rights to the Henson screenplay?

  1. The movie is a great idea. I hope that it gets produced.

    44 vote(s)
  2. I'm concerned that it can be done well and will honor Jim.

    26 vote(s)
  3. It's not worth doing if either Disney or Sesame don't support the movie.

    15 vote(s)
  4. I don't want to see it. Hollywood will likely misrepresent Jim’s life.

    9 vote(s)

  1. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    I read an interesting article who suggested that Lisa Henson was interested in merging Henson and the Muppet Man (much as these threads appear to be merged...interesting...) into one workable script.
  2. Vic Romano

    Vic Romano Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the clarification, dwmckim. I had been asking if the two were the same or not, and you're the first to provide a satisfactory answer!
  3. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    My two cents on it.

    Muppet Man seems to have some fantastical elements to it. The bits I read had some wonderful visuals. However, it's been noted that Jim had a great imagination, but did not live in it the way Muppet Man portrays him. In fact, Caroll Spinney mentioned specifically in his book that Jim wasn't precious with the puppets. He didn't engage with them off-screen as anything other than props to facilitate projects. This script has shades of Permanent Midnight. Personally, I think if a Jim biopic was to be made that Jane Henson should sit down with a screenwriter and provide the bulk of the whats and whens. Frank Oz would be a great person to get as well. But no meaningful script can be pieced together by use of the Wiki and have the core it needs. An aging smoking and drinking Kermit? I’m no Pollyanna, yet that just tells me that at the heart of it this author just doesn't get it.
  4. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Here is something I was thinking about. If they made a movie that showd Jim, and posably the other Muppeteres in a not so good light, whould that not also affect how people look at the Muppets?
  5. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    I agree with, Jamie. Jim was imaginative, yes, but he controlled his imagination...not the other way around.
  6. dabauckham

    dabauckham Well-Known Member

    I agree, I agree. They need to strike a balance between keeping things in Jim's life real, and not overly precious (the book "Street Gang" did a good job presenting the grit but not in any kind of sensational way), but at the same time not making a movie edgy or dark just to make money. Seeing that there are old, pot-bellied Muppets in Muppet Man reminds me a little of that awful youtube version of Nine Inch Nail's Hurt, in which Kermit is drinking himself under the table and doing all kinds of masochistic things to himself. It just felt so...wrong. And it does create an unfortunate lasting impression. That's not true to the spirit of the Muppets.
  7. MrBloogarFoobly

    MrBloogarFoobly Well-Known Member

    Would anyone be able to share the script? I'd really love to read it. :)
  8. unclematt

    unclematt Well-Known Member

    Same here.
  9. Puckrox

    Puckrox Well-Known Member

    Ack! There goes one of my dreams. I'm looking at writing screenplays once I'm out of college, and while I'm not a fan of writing biopics, I was honestly considering writing one for Jim Henson. I guess the world just beat me to it.

    I just hope whatever biopic comes out about him is accurate. It's okay if they bend reality just a smidgen, but I hate it when they portray people completely wrong. A movie about Jim Henson's life needs to be done just right, and they're going to have to find terribly talented actors who, not only can embody Jim and the muppeteer gang, but can also do the voices and animate the muppet characters.
  10. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    You don't have anything to worry about, this movie isn't happening. At least I'm sure it isn't.
  11. Puckrox

    Puckrox Well-Known Member

    Hmmm... maybe I should start working on a script now... Guess I better get my hands on a couple biographies! :D
  12. unclematt

    unclematt Well-Known Member

    Why isn't this script happening? Why wouldn't Disney want to do this?
  13. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    If you read the script, or even a good review of it, then you'll realise exactly why it isn't happening. The thing is a complete misrepresentation of Jim's life.
  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Don't let it stop you. You could very well write a GOOD one! :sing:

    To elaborate, the only info added into the film was taken from bits of wikipedia (and doubtful it was Muppet Wiki), and generic biopic nonsense polluted the project. Over all, I get out of it wasn't that Jim should have been a bigger hit than what he was, but that Jim was a failure, even when he had a success on his hands. And a dismal atmosphere permeated the entire project rife with dark, unfunny, depressing cutscenes that look like Robot Chicken sketches written to be dramatic. If he was going with comedy with a diabetic Fozzie and a morbidly depressed Kermit living in a flophouse, then that guy has some borderline disturbing thoughts of what's humorous. Not that I can't appreciate dark comedy, but there's a difference. Dark comedy is STILL supposed to be comedic. Charlie Brown getting frustrated and kicking Lucy's head off? Dark Comedy. Charlie Brown ending it all? That's just dark.

    And the worst part is the writer is defending the project, saying something to the extent of , OH! It's like Being John Malkovich! It's supposed to be like Being John Malkovich. No, it's ugly depressing Oscar bait, because we all know the only intellectual artistic feeling to feel is constant depression and misery.
  15. Puckrox

    Puckrox Well-Known Member

    All righty! God knows if I do ever attempt to write about Henson, I would try to be as accurate as humanly possible. He had such an amazing life as it was, why bother tweaking it? :)
  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Why, to sucker them into giving it an Oscar, of course!

    And we all know how Oscar loves terrible movies! :grouchy:
  17. Puckrox

    Puckrox Well-Known Member

    Not gonna lie, this made me "lol". I laughed out loud, quite literally. :insatiable:
  18. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Wow, is it sad that I didn't notice this joke until the next day? Lol, very nice!

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