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Henson issues statement about Chick-Fila-A

Discussion in 'Henson People' started by dwmckim, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    My point remains: there are a lot of things that the Bible prohibits, but people pick and choose which ones to follow based on their existing beliefs.

    Cracker Barrel fired employees because they were gay. Not because it had any impact on their work whatsoever, but simply because they did not display "normal heterosexual values," according to the internal memo. Also, they discriminated against black people, both employees and customers. I have a huge problem with companies that don't treat people like people. Supposedly they've gotten a clue since then, but I still have no desire to spend money there.
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  2. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    I agree with that and I'm not sure how much good boycotts really do.

    A lot of people have incorrectly assumed that LGBT supporters are attacking Chick-Fil-A for voicing their personal views. That's not the case. We're concerned about where their money goes. They were one of the financial contributors to California's Prop 8 and other organizations attempting to roll back the clock on our civil liberties. They've been really cagey about disclosing that in the past so this recent statement by them isn't a case of honest or open communication. They also have a history of discrimination toward other religions. In other words, they're shady.

    The owners behind In-N-Out Burger are obviously Christian, but they share their faith in a fun way rather than impose it on others in an underhanded one. I think that's great! The world needs more of that!

    This confuses a lot of people because the overturning of the shellfish rule wasn't specifically addressed in scripture. However it is in keeping with the old covenant with God and it is a popular belief that Jesus' coming changed that particular rule, but not some other ones. Those types of contrivances always make my head explode, but in a fun, Muppety way. :eek:
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  3. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    Actually, its only on Good Friday. But I'm a horrible Catholic that will burst into flames if I was to ever enter a church so...XD
  4. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    That's so beautiful :) That's wonderful of Lisa to do that. :)
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  5. HeyButtahfly

    HeyButtahfly Well-Known Member

    What I've encountered is that people who tend towards, "But the Bible prohibited thus-and-such, do we still do that???" type of arguments, haven't read both testaments of the Bible (or haven't looked into one as much as the other). As far as clean/unclean being abolished, that's addressed in Acts, which basically chronicles the earliest days of Christianity. So those things were "overturned" very early on, with the earliest disciples. (OK, I'm done now.)
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  6. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    Interestingly enough, my two best friends of late, both of whom I've met on the Internet and continued the friendship into Real Life, are very religious women. One's LDS and the other is Catholic. Neither one was ever put off by my sexual orientation. They both believe that we have brains and judgment for a reason, and we should think about what is right and wrong.

    I suppose that's the flipside of the "Cafeteria Catholic" thing, though. If you agree with the person's stance, you say they make intelligent judgment calls. If you don't agree, or believe that the only way to be religious is to follow every word of the Bible literally, you see that as using the Bible only to justify your own views.
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  7. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Doesn't sound like the Jesus I know. ;)

    Well it used to be every Friday but that was years ago.
  8. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Well not always. Sometimes a denomination does employ rules that are arguably against what the wishes of Jesus would be and Christians shouldn't follow it blindly.
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  9. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Reminds me of something my best friend once said, regarding being raised a Catholic: "I consider myself a good Christian, but a bad Catholic". :laugh:
    I know Baptists (particularly Southern Baptists) tend to be a little more hypocritical than others when it comes to certain rules to abide by... heck, I was brought up in a Baptist church before my family joined a Cumberland Presbyterian one some years back, and up until very recently, I didn't even know what Lent was. Then again, that seems more like another something that mostly Catholics observe anyway.
  10. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    Though that is true, I think that Ruahnna was actually not talking about the denomination itself, but the actual religious principles. She was more referring to a Christian saying they believe in the Bible, yet then disagree with one or all of the principles in it.
  11. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Well that also depends on the denomination though. Some denominations take the Bible literally, others more symbolically.
  12. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    Who is this person? I like them already XD

    I'm pretty sure Lent is a Catholic thing. Don't get me started on Southern Baptists...just don't -_-
  13. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    Right, I understand that. I'm just saying that I think Ruahnna was referring to just plain and simple Bible and Christians sort of thing, so to speak, no actual denomination involved. But I do agree with what you're saying, many denominations do seem to support things that are against what they say they believe.

    Yeah...Lent is mostly a Catholic thing...some denominations do acknowledge it and say they're in it, but really making it stand out as an important time is more of a Catholic thing. Though something I have noticed is that Lent seems to be getting out further and further to other denominations. Many people from other denominations have started to celebrate and acknowledge Lent as an important time.
  14. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Well not exactly. They just recognize the historical context of the Bible. Some things were symbolic and some things were part of primitive society and shouldn't be carried over into today.
  15. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    That's not quite what I meant...I do know that, being a Christian myself and all. That's not what I'm talking about. Here's what I mean: it is pretty clear cut in the Bible that getting drunk is a sin. Yet some denomination might state that it's OK. That sort of thing. That something minor that is actually clear cut in the Bible, the denomination itself goes against.
  16. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    What passage do you mean? Just asking.
  17. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    Galations 5:19-21 would be an example.
  18. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Is that Paul saying that? There is the school of thought that Jesus' words are the more important and that Paul was a bit of a zealot. I get what you're saying that that's the kind of hypocrisy that's being referred to. But even there I would question whether that's hypocrisy. But of course that is just personal opinion. :)
  19. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Okay I'm a Southern Baptist and I think everyone should have equal rights. I have several Christian friends as well who are also Southern Baptists and they also support gay rights. Maybe some of you should look at the individuals themselves instead of just judging them as a group. I'm just saying.
  20. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    Yeah. That's Paul. I also found Luke 21:34, which would be Jesus's words in that instance.

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